Communists in Russia won't let NATO in

[Proukunin]

http://rt.com/politics/ulyanovsk-nato-communists-protest-203/

I don't consider myself a Communist in the 'big C' form but do you think that these protests will show any effectiveness?

[Omsk]

I don't consider the KPRF to be a communist party.

[Comrade Samuel]

I don't consider the KPRF to be a communist party.

I don't really know much about the KPRF but if they are Leninist (I'm not sure if they are just basing this off the article) they can't be entirely bad can they?

[Proukunin]

I meant effective in stopping NATO, not whether they are communist or not..personally I could care less if they are Leninist..Doesn't help out my cause.

Do you think that the supposed 2 million communists will have any effect on NATO?

[TheGodlessUtopian]

No one can stop NATO without a massive show of force; two million is chump change (much higher than anything in the US but when you are talking about NATO numbers don't mean much. What you need is fighters).

[Proukunin]

Yes of course..
Hopefully being the communists they are..it will lead to some show of force..hopefully.

[LeftAtheist]

I was under the impression they were nationalist/Stalinist, but without any real belief in achieving a truly communist society. They've called for the "re-Stalinisation" of Russia, but I havn't seen any mention of worker control or the eventual withering away of the state, or anything like that.

[Deicide]

They're a bunch of chauvinists. Russian Nationalism and patriotism is a major part of their ideology.

[Omsk]

It can be said that their use of the images and posters of Joseph Stalin,is just because of opportunism and populism,by such rhetoric and such imagery,they hope to attract older voters.

Don't pay too much attention on their ideological line,because i doubt they have a gram of consistency or actual pragmatism.They also established contact with some 'Titoist' parties too,it's an example of how blind they are,and how divorced they are from actual revolutionary theory and ideology.

[Yefim Zverev]

russian communist party is a right wing nationalist party (confirmed by russian)

[Dogs On Acid]

russian communist party is a right wing nationalist party (confirmed by russian)

I wouldn't call them right wing. They want to Nationalize industries that were privatized since 1992.

They are basically patriotic-social democrats/state-capitalists.

[Yefim Zverev]

She won't let you in

http://media.englishrussia.com/newimages//schoolleavers232483.jpg

[thriller]

No, even if there were two million protestors against NATO, pretty sure that would make NATO even more determined to achieve their goals (so they could show how the people have no choice). Plus, two million? Not very many when you consider the whole of Russia.

[Rafiq]

I wouldn't call them right wing. They want to Nationalize industries that were privatized since 1992.

They are basically patriotic-social democrats/state-capitalists.

That still doesn't disqualify a party to be considered right wing. A lot of far right parties vehemently oppose privitization and neoliberalism.

[Dogs On Acid]

No, even if there were two million protestors against NATO, pretty sure that would make NATO even more determined to achieve their goals (so they could show how the people have no choice). Plus, two million? Not very many when you consider the whole of Russia.

Just over 1% of the population, am I right? And seeing as the CP had 17% of the votes, it turns out to be about 5% of the party supporters.

[Renegade Saint]

I wouldn't call them right wing. They want to Nationalize industries that were privatized since 1992.

They are basically patriotic-social democrats/state-capitalists.
So basically fascist?

[Dogs On Acid]

So basically fascist?

So UK Labour post WW2 is Fascist too because they Nationalized key industries as well as being patriotic.

Seems legit.

[Omsk]

This is the programe of the party: (Or at least,some 'goals' they struggle for.

stop the extinction of the country, restore benefits for large families, reconstruct the network of public kindergartens and provide housing for young families.
nationalize natural resources in Russia and the strategic sectors of the economy; revenues in these industries are to be used in the interests of all citizens
return to Russia from foreign banks the state financial reserves and use them for economic and social development
break the system of total fraud in the elections
create a truly independent judiciary
carry out an immediate package of measures to combat poverty and introduce price controls on essential goods
not raise the retirement age
restore government responsibility for housing and utilities, establish fees for municipal services in an amount not more than 10% of family income, stop the eviction of people to the streets, expand public housing
increase funding for science and scientists to provide decent wages and all the necessary research
restore the highest standards of universal and free secondary and higher education that existed during the Soviet era
ensure the availability and quality of health care
vigorously develop high-tech manufacturing
ensure the food and environmental security of the country and support the large collective farms for the production and processing of agricultural products
prioritize domestic debt over of foreign (to compensate for household deposits, burnt in the disastrous years of "reform")
introduce progressive taxation; low-income citizens will be exempt from paying taxes
improve the efficiency of public administration, reducing the number of officials to extend the powers of labor collectives and trade unions
create conditions for development of small and medium enterprises
ensure the accessibility of cultural goods, stop the commercialization of culture, defend Russian culture as the foundation of the spiritual unity of multinational Russia, the national culture of all citizens of the country
stop the slandering of the Russian and Soviet history
take drastic measures to suppress corruption and crime
strengthen national defense and expand social guarantees to servicemen and law enforcement officials
ensure the territorial integrity of Russia and the protection of compatriots abroad
institute a foreign policy based on mutual respect of countries and peoples to facilitate the voluntary restoration of the Union of States.

There are,of course,obvious problematic points in this list,but some are valid.Out of common knowledge,the party is a mix,with some nationalist,social-democratic and non-leftists ideological elements.

Their "Marxism-Leninism" and "Support for Stalin" is most likely out of the fact that they hope to attract older people to vote for them,it has little or no actual meaning.
Most of the people on the left know its not a Marxist-Leninist party.

Their rhetoric is populist,and they are very opportunistic.

[Amal]

This is the programe of the party: (Or at least,some 'goals' they struggle for.

stop the extinction of the country, restore benefits for large families, reconstruct the network of public kindergartens and provide housing for young families.
nationalize natural resources in Russia and the strategic sectors of the economy; revenues in these industries are to be used in the interests of all citizens
return to Russia from foreign banks the state financial reserves and use them for economic and social development
break the system of total fraud in the elections
create a truly independent judiciary
carry out an immediate package of measures to combat poverty and introduce price controls on essential goods
not raise the retirement age
restore government responsibility for housing and utilities, establish fees for municipal services in an amount not more than 10% of family income, stop the eviction of people to the streets, expand public housing
increase funding for science and scientists to provide decent wages and all the necessary research
restore the highest standards of universal and free secondary and higher education that existed during the Soviet era
ensure the availability and quality of health care
vigorously develop high-tech manufacturing
ensure the food and environmental security of the country and support the large collective farms for the production and processing of agricultural products
prioritize domestic debt over of foreign (to compensate for household deposits, burnt in the disastrous years of "reform")
introduce progressive taxation; low-income citizens will be exempt from paying taxes
improve the efficiency of public administration, reducing the number of officials to extend the powers of labor collectives and trade unions
create conditions for development of small and medium enterprises
ensure the accessibility of cultural goods, stop the commercialization of culture, defend Russian culture as the foundation of the spiritual unity of multinational Russia, the national culture of all citizens of the country
stop the slandering of the Russian and Soviet history
take drastic measures to suppress corruption and crime
strengthen national defense and expand social guarantees to servicemen and law enforcement officials
ensure the territorial integrity of Russia and the protection of compatriots abroad
institute a foreign policy based on mutual respect of countries and peoples to facilitate the voluntary restoration of the Union of States.

There are,of course,obvious problematic points in this list,but some are valid.Out of common knowledge,the party is a mix,with some nationalist,social-democratic and non-leftists ideological elements.

Their "Marxism-Leninism" and "Support for Stalin" is most likely out of the fact that they hope to attract older people to vote for them,it has little or no actual meaning.
Most of the people on the left know its not a Marxist-Leninist party.

Their rhetoric is populist,and they are very opportunistic.
Reminding me of the CPI(M) of India.

[thriller]

Just over 1% of the population, am I right? And seeing as the CP had 17% of the votes, it turns out to be about 5% of the party supporters.

If the entire population voted. On that I am unsure of.