favourite organisations with odd/eccentric positions

[ed miliband]

the british and irish communist organisation (bico) always amuses me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_Irish_Communist_Organisation

so basically "anti-revisionists" who had a position on northern ireland that garnered them admiration from the likes of enoch powell, who described them as "nice, comfortable Unionist Marxists". they were sympathetic to the british conservative party and established the 'ernest bevin society', named after the right-wing british labour politician; supported nuclear power and weaponry, the monarchy, israel, the khmer rouge, etc; opposed the miner's strike. all the while, somehow, considering themselves communists.

as if that wasn't enough, the organisation split and the 'communist organisation in the british isles' (cobi) was formed. cobi were maoists influenced by daniel deleon. i don't think i need to say anything more.

a strangely similar group were the revolutionary communist party. unlike bico they were trotskyist, but they used marx and lenin to defend right-wing positions. apparently rcp activists were the coolest trots on the scene, always dressed in sharp suits and looking tough. they gradually turned into these guys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_online

and lots of their leading activists are now making a pretty penny being really right-wing in newspapers like the telegraph. whilst still claiming to be marxists.

mental.

who else?

[PC LOAD LETTER]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society

[ed miliband]

sorry but by the rules of my thread, which i didn't explain but meant to, they don't count.

i mean groups that have emerged from marxism/anarchism.

[Sasha]

Groups like anti-germans and 3th worldists and anti-imps just piss me off

but one group I was always fascinated by where the german spk: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Patients'_Collective

[The Douche]

I love being friends with the "Leading Light Communist Organization" on facebook, they're a Maoist-3rd worldist group that came out of MIM.

One time I had a facebook status about a friend's wife. He was on a one month deployment to Africa, she started fucking some dude she worked with, the day my friend landed in Africa. The two of them also have a kid together. About a week into that month me and another friend ran into his wife and the other guy in the bar, and we chased them out. I was talking this on my facebook and LLCO commented saying that imperialist soldiers deserve to have their wives cheat on them and never see their kids again.

I loled.

[Aurora]

she started fucking some dude she worked with, the day my friend landed in Africa. The two of them also have a kid together. About a week into that month me and another friend ran into his wife and the other guy in the bar, and we chased them out.
hmm i guess they should have stayed together for the kid, after all marriage is for life :rolleyes: guess what, your friend's wife doesn't belong to him, she can fuck who she likes and your intimidation is pathetic.

[Deicide]

Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist). They're a bunch of delusional fools, that pathetically cling to catastrophes of the previous century.

Here's a two examples of their nutjob-ness

1) The CPGB-ML is a steadfast supporter of communist states and other perceived anti-imperialist nations, including North Korea, Zimbabwe and People's Republic of China.

2)Delegations from the Chinese embassy have attended meetings of the CPGB-ML and members of the CPGB M-L and the Red Youth have made visits to North Korea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Great_Britain_(Marxist-Leninist)

Here is them marching and glorifying the personality cult of a long dead, mass murdering psychopath. You can't get more eccentric than that..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c8/May_Day_in_London.jpg

[HEAD ICE]

the british and irish communist organisation (bico) always amuses me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_Irish_Communist_Organisation

so basically "anti-revisionists" who had a position on northern ireland that garnered them admiration from the likes of enoch powell, who described them as "nice, comfortable Unionist Marxists". they were sympathetic to the british conservative party and established the 'ernest bevin society', named after the right-wing british labour politician; supported nuclear power and weaponry, the monarchy, israel, the khmer rouge, etc; opposed the miner's strike. all the while, somehow, considering themselves communists.

as if that wasn't enough, the organisation split and the 'communist organisation in the british isles' (cobi) was formed. cobi were maoists influenced by daniel deleon. i don't think i need to say anything more.

RevLeft's own Paul Cockshott was a member of this group, which makes perfect sense really.

[The Douche]

hmm i guess they should have stayed together for the kid, after all marriage is for life :rolleyes: guess what, your friend's wife doesn't belong to him, she can fuck who she likes and your intimidation is pathetic.

I don't care one bit who wants to fuck who. But be fucking mature about it. If you don't love your husband, get a divorce, don't wait for him to get on a plane, go to a different continent, and start sending you money, to go and fuck somebody else.

That's not what a good person does, thats not what an adult does, thats not what a parent does.

They're divorced now, which I think is great, cause both of them are terribly immature people who should not have ever been together.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist). They're a bunch of delusional fools, that pathetically cling to catastrophes of the previous century.

Here's a two examples of their nutjob-ness

1) The CPGB-ML is a steadfast supporter of communist states and other perceived anti-imperialist nations, including North Korea, Zimbabwe and People's Republic of China.

2)Delegations from the Chinese embassy have attended meetings of the CPGB-ML and members of the CPGB M-L and the Red Youth have made visits to North Korea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Great_Britain_(Marxist-Leninist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Great_Britain_%28Marxist-Leninist))
This is normal, everyday shit for these old and dead parties.

[ed miliband]

Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist). They're a bunch of delusional fools, that pathetically cling to catastrophes of the previous century.

Here's a two examples of their nutjob-ness

1) The CPGB-ML is a steadfast supporter of communist states and other perceived anti-imperialist nations, including North Korea, Zimbabwe and People's Republic of China.

2)Delegations from the Chinese embassy have attended meetings of the CPGB-ML and members of the CPGB M-L and the Red Youth have made visits to North Korea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Great_Britain_(Marxist-Leninist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Great_Britain_%28Marxist-Leninist))


yeah they have a hall quite close to me, i should check out some of their meetings when i'm about. they also had a vigil for kim jong-il.

[Ocean Seal]

The International Pan Islamic Communist Party of Proletarian Islam (http://proletarianislam.wordpress.com/)

I can't say anything about their politics, but I think that out of all of the organizations on the left, they have the sweetest name.

[lombas]

hmm i guess they should have stayed together for the kid, after all marriage is for life :rolleyes: guess what, your friend's wife doesn't belong to him, she can fuck who she likes and your intimidation is pathetic.

You can fuck who you like, but you should bear the consequences. In the case of fucking other people: it might piss someone off.

[Ravachol]

National 'Anarchists' like the 'National Anarchist Movement' http://www.national-anarchist.net/, some former NF third-positionist loons who take inspiration from ultra-fascists like Julius Evola (for whom Mussolini's PNF wasn't authoritarian enough and the SS was only 'on the right track'), Ernst Junger (the rabid nationalist who actually quite enjoyed the trenches of WWI) and Proudhon's more antisemitic statements.

It's all Volkische bullshit about the 'free association of races' and 'going back to our Germanic roots' of 'sustainable village-communities'. Never mind the class structure and dominance that ruled those communities though :rolleyes:

Oh, and some of them also support the likes of Qaddaffi (self-determination of deh peopulz!) and Kim-Jung Il (anti-imperialism guyz!), how very 'anarchist'.

And then there's a whole host of online National-Bolsheviks like this....

m7QRPjBs-EA

[Aurora]

@michel foubro, sorry for derailing your thread it wasn't my intention.


You can fuck who you like, but you should bear the consequences. In the case of fucking other people: it might piss someone off.
What consequences should there be when two people have a consensual relationship? perhaps they should be chased out of places they like to visit?

Maybe next time they can kick her friends ass, ya know, teach him not to touch other peoples property. :rolleyes:


But be fucking mature about it. If you don't love your husband, get a divorce, don't wait for him to get on a plane, go to a different continent, and start sending you money, to go and fuck somebody else.
You mean mature like interfering in someone else's relationship problems or mature like chasing people out of a bar for said problems?
Divorce, you honestly expect someone to put their life on hold until the legal documents go through? reality doesn't work like that. People fall in and out of love and people fuck other people, marriage and relationships aren't sacred and nobody should be punished when they come to an end.

That's not what a good person does, thats not what an adult does, thats not what a parent does.
:lol: keep your bourgeois morals to yourself.

[The Douche]

You mean mature like interfering in someone else's relationship problems or mature like chasing people out of a bar for said problems?

I'm not interfering, the dude fucking somebody else's wife is.


Divorce, you honestly expect someone to put their life on hold until the legal documents go through? reality doesn't work like that. People fall in and out of love and people fuck other people, marriage and relationships aren't sacred and nobody should be punished when they come to an end.

You're neglecting the fact that as far as one party was concerned, the relationship wasn't over. She kissed him goodbye, put him on the plane, and said "I'll see you in a month", then she went and fucked somebody else while cashing his checks.

If she had told him she was out, then I wouldn't have a problem.



I don't care when somebody dumps a friend, his wife was taking advantage of him, I'm not okay with that.


keep your bourgeois morals to yourself.

Whats bourgeois about backing up your friend? Whats so revolutionary about lying to somebody you're in a committed, monogamous relationship with?




Only on revleft would somebody try to equate having a problem with cheating to sexism.:rolleyes:

[Sam_b]

AWL for voting down a motion to wiathdraw all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan at conference.

[Kassad]

Leading Light Communist Organization takes the cake for hilarious positions and posts.

[Prometeo liberado]

Give me the RCP and that always-in-hiding Bob Avakian. Running from a ghost that never existed and still has time time to pursue and endless letter writing campaign with the UCPN(M) or whatever they are currently calling themselves. And don't forget the new sythesis.:confused:
Honorable mention goes to the New Alliance Party and the presidential campaign they ran in conjunction with Jesse Jackson. They were pro-socialist?

[gorillafuck]

@michel foubro, sorry for derailing your thread it wasn't my intention.


What consequences should there be when two people have a consensual relationship? perhaps they should be chased out of places they like to visit?

Maybe next time they can kick her friends ass, ya know, teach him not to touch other peoples property. :rolleyes:

You mean mature like interfering in someone else's relationship problems or mature like chasing people out of a bar for said problems?
Divorce, you honestly expect someone to put their life on hold until the legal documents go through? reality doesn't work like that. People fall in and out of love and people fuck other people, marriage and relationships aren't sacred and nobody should be punished when they come to an end.

:lol: keep your bourgeois morals to yourself.realizing how bullshit it is to wait until your spouse lands on another continent to immediately start cheating in a monogamous relationship to which both parties agreed upon is bourgeois morals?

wow. you sure are striving for an assholish world.

[Arlekino]

Nah every party or organisation got some critical points and we do like to put all shit on them. That why we would never ever succeed socialist revolution because leftist even divided. I confuse we do debating in forums complaining about capitalism and putting dirt on communist parties.
Is hell I am not satisfied just to complain on internet, I want some good results.

[NewLeft]

Stalin Society lol paranoid like the real man

[Red Rabbit]

Any run-ins with LLCO is bound to create a few laughs. :D

[Ravachol]

Only on revleft would somebody try to equate having a problem with cheating to sexism.:rolleyes:

In fact, I would even say cheating is an anti-communist act rather than the other way around. Communism is based on horizontal social relationships composed of mutual aid and mutual respect. Given that love (which can be monogamous or polyamorous or whatever) is the most intense social relationship possible, the commitment and intertwining of individual desires and interests in a common bond, the betrayal of such a social relationship through the act of violating the terms of trust upon which it is based for personal 'gain', ie. cheating, is an anti-communist act if there ever is one.

That is not to say that this goes for a loveless marriage where a wife is trapped by financial dependence, obviously, in this case there is no cheating because there is no 'relationship' except for the bonds of patriarchy. But genuine personal relationships are a different matter and when one or both parties decide to break those of or have a desire to modify the terms on which they operate, they ought to do so with the consent of all involved, not behind their backs, manipulating them into continuing a relationship while holding back information.

It's no different from people who manipulate their 'friends' into behavior for their own personal gain, violating the bonds of friendship. THAT is a fundamentally bourgeois attitude, treating people (friends, lovers,etc.) like resources while manipulating or forcing them into particular behavior for individual interest.

[La Comédie Noire]

There are a few Anarchists in Boston I know who like to collect herbs and believe in power crystals. Not really part of a certain organization.

Speaking of weird Individuals, Michael Parenti has a special way of making me lol that only he knows how.

[NewLeft]

In fact, I would even say cheating is an anti-communist act rather than the other way around. Communism is based on horizontal social relationships composed of mutual aid and mutual respect. Given that love (which can be monogamous or polyamorous or whatever) is the most intense social relationship possible, the commitment and intertwining of individual desires and interests in a common bond, the betrayal of such a social relationship through the act of violating the terms of trust upon which it is based for personal 'gain', ie. cheating, is an anti-communist act if there ever is one.

That is not to say that this goes for a loveless marriage where a wife is trapped by financial dependence, obviously, in this case there is no cheating because there is no 'relationship' except for the bonds of patriarchy. But genuine personal relationships are a different matter and when one or both parties decide to break those of or have a desire to modify the terms on which they operate, they ought to do so with the consent of all involved, not behind their backs, manipulating them into continuing a relationship while holding back information.

It's no different from people who manipulate their 'friends' into behavior for their own personal gain, violating the bonds of friendship. THAT is a fundamentally bourgeois attitude, treating people (friends, lovers,etc.) like resources while manipulating or forcing them into particular behavior for individual interest.
you make it ought to be ideological.. financial dependence as a result of patriarchy or wage labour?

[gorillafuck]

In fact, I would even say cheating is an anti-communist act rather than the other way around. Communism is based on horizontal social relationships composed of mutual aid and mutual respect. I disagree. I think you're taking that much too far. it's social dishonesty but it is not acting against communism as a system or class politics as a struggle.

anyway to get this thread back on topic, progressive labor party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Labor_Party_(United_States)

they are pretty much a weird combination of ultraleftism and hardcore stalinism

[Lilith]

In fact, I would even say cheating is an anti-communist act rather than the other way around. Communism is based on horizontal social relationships composed of mutual aid and mutual respect.

And capitalism isn't based on such relationships, nor are many marital relationships under capitalism based on such pure principles.

Anyway, if people are in the business of moralizing, I don't see why you would consider it worthy of ridicule when someone moralizes about voluntarily joining the armed forces on behalf of a global superpower, while considering it totally communist to moralize about how people choose to conduct their personal romantic relationships.

[Os Cangaceiros]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA_(Provisional)

[gorillafuck]

"party members do not openly acknowledge its existence" is the best aspect of the provisional communist party. probably the weirdest organization there is. it has a shitload of alleged fronts but the fronts are all like, 5 people, and it's founder was a legit con-artist.

[Os Cangaceiros]

It doesn't mention it in that Wiki entry, but I also like the fact that they had a stockpile of weapons that was raided in New York in (IIRC) the mid-90's.

[Os Cangaceiros]

The Rural People's Party is pretty funny, too, but that's not really an organization, because my understanding is it's just one crazy lady who lives in a trailer out in the middle of nowhere and writes about how Jim Jones was a communist hero.

[Renegade Saint]

I had to visit LLCO's facebook to see what I was missing. It didn't take long.

Some poor sap posted something about the US proletariat being unmotivated to change things and this is the response he got:

On the contrary, I would argue that the U$ "proletariat" is a very motivated brood of fascist vultures. They will defend their government and parasitic way of life with their lives.
:laugh:

[Prometeo liberado]

I had to visit LLCO's facebook to see what I was missing. It didn't take long.

Some poor sap posted something about the US proletariat being unmotivated to change things and this is the response he got:

:laugh:

Is this an American organization? I've heard of them but never met any.

[Welshy]

The Rural People's Party is pretty funny, too, but that's not really an organization, because my understanding is it's just one crazy lady who lives in a trailer out in the middle of nowhere and writes about how Jim Jones was a communist hero.

I had to look this up for myself and shit this is weird stuff. Also they seem to really like Juche and North Korea.

[Paul Cockshott]

RevLeft's own Paul Cockshott was a member of this group, which makes perfect sense really.

I was persuaded by Maisels to join BICO for a couple of months to help him split people away to form COBI, if you are going to say that COBI was whacko, do so on the basis of what it published, much of which is now appearing on various archives, ie: http://www.marxists.org/history/erol/uk.hightide/index.htm#cobi
In particular I think the critique of Trotskys Transitional Programme bears re-reading.

[Salyut]

The Rural People's Party is pretty funny, too, but that's not really an organization, because my understanding is it's just one crazy lady who lives in a trailer out in the middle of nowhere and writes about how Jim Jones was a communist hero.

"I come with the Black Hair of a Raven. I come as God Socialist!" - Cde. Jim Jones/Peoples Temple Agricultural Project. (http://ruralpeople.atspace.org/)

Do they serve free FlavorAid?

[ColonelCossack]

There's a party here in the UK called the "Monster raving Loony Party". Think it might be a bit righyt wing tho or something.

[human strike]

Accelerationism is pretty cool.

[Die Neue Zeit]

as if that wasn't enough, the organisation split and the 'communist organisation in the british isles' (cobi) was formed. cobi were maoists influenced by daniel deleon. i don't think i need to say anything more.

Mental? :rolleyes:

Sorry, but I think that was one of the better left organizations in the UK left's history.