A question with mind blowing implications iii

[sithsaber]

Hypothetical question 1:

Imagine that you live in a leftist nation that borders a revisionist and/or bourgeois state that has a fairly popular government amongst its citizens . If you could get away with it, do you condone forcing that group through violence into adopting a better system of government?

[Comrade Samuel]

Yes.

Now get ready for the endless stream of "there are no such things as leftist nations"

[sithsaber]

Yes.

Now get ready for the endless stream of "there are no such things as leftist nations"

What the fuck am i supposed to say, Workers state? I doubt the revolution will be simultaneous.

ps

You should be happy i asked a serious question. I was going to ask the uberanarchists if a law should be made criminalizing cannibalism.

[Red Rabbit]

This is a tough question for me. I dislike violence, but at the same time I realize that pacifism will never get anything done.

If it truly meant progress towards Communism, then yes.

Also;


Now get ready for the endless stream of "there are no such things as leftist nations"

lol because its true

[Per Levy]

first of all mindshattering questions? i actually hoped for something better, tbh.

second of all, no i dont support a ML bureaucracy force another state to adept a bureaucratic rule at gunpoint. that is not how revolutions work and that does not help the workers to controll the means of production

[Yuppie Grinder]

Yes.

Now get ready for the endless stream of "there are no such things as leftist nations"
But there actually isn't such a thing as a proletarian nation.

[Comrade Samuel]

What the fuck am i supposed to say, Workers state? I doubt the revolution will be simultaneous.

ps

You should be happy i asked a serious question. I was going to ask the uberanarchists if a law should be made criminalizing cannibalism.

I have no complaints about the phrase and to be completely honest there is no way to say it that won't get someones pants in a bunch and it's a very reasonable doubt that revolution will not be simultaneous.

I am actualy very happy to see you ask a serious question and I only hope to see serious answers as opposed to the witty one-liners that causes thease threads that ask very valid questions to wither away. As for the last part I did not know that cannibalism was a debateable topic, I always figured most people where ver opposed to it.

[sithsaber]

But there actually isn't such a thing as a proletarian nation.

Will edit to the bullshit phrase "workers state"

[Bostana]

Yes.

Now get ready for the endless stream of "there are no such things as leftist nations"

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

It's funny 'cuz it's true

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Nope, I don't condone imperialism or bullying.

[Per Levy]

You should be happy i asked a serious question. I was going to ask the uberanarchists if a law should be made criminalizing cannibalism.

yeah starting a thread devoted to start a tendency war, you'd never do that *cough*what is hoxhaism*cough*


Will edit to the bullshit phrase "workers state"

you shouldnt, its indeed a stupid and very untrue phrase.

[sithsaber]

As for the last part I did not know that cannibalism was a debateable topic, I always figured most people had many issues with it.

You never know what the crazy bastards that roam this site will think. Maybe there really do exist anarchists so hardline against structured government and the prison system that would contemplate simply "banishing" people eaters

[sithsaber]

yeah starting a thread devoted to start a tendency war, you'd never do that *cough*what is hoxhaism*cough*



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[The Jay]

No I would not, people should be able to have whatever government they collectively decide. The question of what I think of that government is another issue and I would condone propaganda.

[sithsaber]

No I would not, people should be able to have whatever government they collectively decide. The question of what I think of that government is another issue and I would condone propaganda.

Hitler was voted into office. Just sayin

[The Jay]

He was also murdering his own citizens so it would have been humanitarian to assist in his overthrow, just sayin.

[¿Que?]

What do you mean by fairly popular. Bourgeois countries are by nature full of disaffected people. (I sorta did something there)

[Yuppie Grinder]

Hitler was voted into office. Just sayin
No he wasn't. That's bullshit. At the time the Nazis inverted German Republicanism they were the largest group in German parliament, but not the majority. The communists and social-democrats combined were considerably larger than the Nazis. Ask any historian, Hitler was NOT elected. Besides, it's not as if bourgeois electoralism is genuinely democratic.

[sithsaber]

No he wasn't. That's bullshit. At the time the Nazis inverted German Republicanism they were the largest group in German parliament, but not the majority. The communists and social-democrats combined were considerably larger than the Nazis. Ask any historian, Hitler was NOT elected. Besides, it's not as if bourgeois electoralism is genuinely democratic.

Come on, Hitler wasn't forcing the majority of Germans at the time to Sig hail. He was a popular figure amongst a majority of that nation at that time (I'm not doing a German guilt thing, just stating a fact. No banning please)

[Yuppie Grinder]

Come on, Hitler wasn't forcing the majority of Germans at the time to Sig hail. He was a popular figure amongst a majority of that nation at that time (I'm not doing a German guilt thing, just stating a fact. No banning please)
He was not elected. That is historical fact.

[sithsaber]

He was not elected. That is historical fact.

Wow i'm getting rusty. I Rescind my argument.

[The Jay]

Wow i'm getting rusty. I Rescind my argument.

Does that mean that I win a prize?

[sithsaber]

Does that mean that I win a prize?
No.

[Ocean Seal]

Good luck overthrowing a popular capitalist regime through formal social imperialism. Capitalism always falls, what we should be doing is agitating and lending all possible resources to revolutionaries in the oppressed nation and then orchestrating the violent overthrow of their bourgeoisie.

[The Jay]

No.

You're no fun.

[roy]

Good luck spreading the proletarian revolution through invasion.

[#FF0000]

Wow i'm getting rusty. I Rescind my argument.

You're still pretty much right tho. The NSDAP was pretty popular. Not majority popular (no party really was) but certainly the most popular, at least by the time Hitler was Chancellor, with almost 50% of the electorate backing him.

[Revolution starts with U]

I thought the NAZIs won w a 30% victory, banking on the vote split?

[Luís Henrique]

My mind was blown away by this question, and without a mind I can't answer it.

Luís Henrique

[Luís Henrique]

I thought the NAZIs won w a 30% victory, banking on the vote split?

Their biggest electoral victory of all times, after they took power, in a rigged election where all adversaries were constantly harrassed by the SA, and where they could freely use the State apparatus in their campaign, gave them 44% of the vote (SDP made 18%, KPD 12%, Zentrum 11%, Nationalists 8%, and Bavarian Popular Party 3%).

But by that time they could have lost the vote, it would make no difference any more, their dictatorship was already established.

In actual democratic elections, they never went beyond 32%. Which is already too much for my tastes, but.

Luís Henrique

[Railyon]

You never know what the crazy bastards that roam this site will think. Maybe there really do exist anarchists so hardline against structured government and the prison system that would contemplate simply "banishing" people eaters

Because it's such an overwhelming problem innit

If you REALLY wanted to troll you'd ask about necrophilia. Can we infringe on someone's freedom if they're dead?

Do it. DO IT

[Rooster]

it's a very reasonable doubt that revolution will not be simultaneous.

How did you come to that conclusion?

[sithsaber]

How did you come to that conclusion?

Common sense

[Rooster]

Common sense

Haha, no it isn't. Come on, give me a real answer.