ban the word troll from improper usage

[gorillafuck]

people need to learn to not use the word troll in real life unless they are referring to the kind who live under bridges. the word is "provoking". if someone says something just to piss someone else off outside of the context of the internet, they are provoking them. they are not trolling them. "irl trolling" is not a real thing and there should be a hefty fine levied against people who use it.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I don't know, I'm not particularly bothered by the concept of irl trolling.

[hatzel]

...you trollin' bro?

[Robocommie]

Zeekloid for the last time, I'm sorry I spraypainted "troll" all over your house. Will you just let me wash it off and stop trying to make this a legal issue?

[Agent Ducky]

I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you. I don't see why that can't be part of vernacular.

[CountryKid]

Troll?

[gorillafuck]

I don't know, I'm not particularly bothered by the concept of irl trolling.
I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you. I don't see why that can't be part of vernacular.here we see two examples of incorrect opinions

internet lingo should be made to be entirely separate from regular usage

[MarxSchmarx]

people need to learn to not use the word troll in real life unless they are referring to the kind who live under bridges. the word is "provoking". if someone says something just to piss someone else off outside of the context of the internet, they are provoking them. they are not trolling them. "irl trolling" is not a real thing and there should be a hefty fine levied against people who use it.

IRL trolling actually is a correct verb, and derives from a fishing technique where you drag a lure or a baited hook through the water that fish follow.

[Ele'ill]

IRL trolling actually is a correct verb, and derives from a fishing technique where you drag a lure or a baited hook through the water that fish follow.

This.

[Prometeo liberado]

zeekloid, I served with Trolls, I knew a Troll, a Troll was a friend of mine. zeekloid, you're no Troll.

[Robocommie]

Some of my best friends are trolls.

Actually that's true.

[Red Rabbit]

This would be detrimental to my preferred tendency.

[Anarpest]

This pierces to the very heart of my self-identity.

[Nox]

Umadbro

[gorillafuck]

Umadbroyet another term which has unfortunately creeped its way into real life talk

[Franz Fanonipants]

irl trolling = situationism

[Franz Fanonipants]

Some of my best friends are trolls.

Actually that's true.

post less boo

[gorillafuck]

"irl troling" itself is fine. it just cannot be called that.

[ColonelCossack]

Seriously look how language has changed over time. In a century it will be common parlance.

You're looking at this from the specific context of 2012; the word "troll" Is extremely young (when used in this context). Language changes and evolves so much over the years, decades and centuries that the word will probably fade into obscurity or become common usage depending on the numbers of internet nerds like myself in the future.

Look at Beowulf. Unless you're an expert in old/middle English you can probably barely understand the original text. Over the last millennium or so the English language has changed so drastically that it's almost unrecognisable. However, there are some similarities; common words like "Hello" are vaguely similar, but more obscure words like "egg" are wholly different. In the same way, if the word "troll" becomes commonly used to describe a provocative person, in about a century or even less we'll probably use that word or something very similar to describe a provocative person. After a few centuries that will be the standard way of describing someone who is provocative, with the original roots (someone irritating on the internet) being lost to the ravages of time. Similarly, for instance, "I slunk" may well become "I slinked" in the next few centuries, because it's more convenient; "were you in the park" could become "was you in the park" because (at least where I live) that's how it is most commonly, almost universally, said. The language of today will probably be just as unrecognisable to the people of 3012 as the language of 1012 is alien to us.

Language, like the rest of culture, is not static. It changes in the ways described above, and in other ways, such as more convenient grammar taking the place of what was once correct (they change because of material conditions changing, as with the rest of culture :p). The grammar Nazis of today would seem like tactless numbskulls a few centuries ago. As a result, people who go on about preserving modern grammar, vocabulary and spelling are fighting an inevitably losing battle. It's conservative and idealist, as well as hopeless.

[ColonelCossack]

Wait did I just spoil chit chat by making it serious?

[Red Rabbit]

Wait did I just spoil chit chat by making it serious?

Yes. Do you feel bad? 'cause you should

[ColonelCossack]

Yes. Do you feel bad? 'cause you should

I'll just go and cry in the corner then I suppose.

[Agent Ducky]

here we see two examples of incorrect opinions

internet lingo should be made to be entirely separate from regular usage
You can hold that opinion.... It's kind of reactionary though. You have to accept that the Internet is becoming a huge part of our culture. You just can't divide the Internet and real life into two separate spheres. They're hopelessly intertwined, especially linguistically. Exactly what ColonelCossack said. The Internet is emerging as an integral part of our culture. Words are going to come out of there, and there's nothing we can do about it. So we all need to get over it.

But none of this excuses using hashtags irl. Nothing can ever.

[gorillafuck]

You can hold that opinion.... It's kind of reactionary though. You have to accept that the Internet is becoming a huge part of our culture. You just can't divide the Internet and real life into two separate spheres. They're hopelessly intertwined, especially linguistically. Exactly what ColonelCossack said. The Internet is emerging as an integral part of our culture. Words are going to come out of there, and there's nothing we can do about it. So we all need to get over it.it seems that you've just presented the only good argument that has ever been put forward for primitivism

[PC LOAD LETTER]

it seems that you've just presented the only good argument that has ever been put forward for primitivism
If I could "thank" posts in chit chat ...

[ColonelCossack]

it seems that you've just presented the only good argument that has ever been put forward for primitivism

The trouble is you're jot looking ta the big picture; time is very long and things change a lot, just like i said in my previous post.

[ColonelCossack]

But none of this excuses using hashtags irl. Nothing can ever.

How is it even possible to use hashtags irl?

[PC LOAD LETTER]

How is it even possible to use hashtags irl?
Just an example: "I hate when people use hashtags in real life .... firstworldproblems"

[Rusty Shackleford]

it seems anglophones are stuck with the idea that trolls are only the ones in goat tales.



meanwhile, in Sweden, they have entire cities named after troll hats.

[Agent Ducky]

How is it even possible to use hashtags irl?

I wondered this too. Until everyone started saying "#yolo" after everything. :glare:

[ColonelCossack]

I wondered this too. Until everyone started saying "#yolo" after everything. :glare:

da fok?

How is that pronounced?