If people need money to motivate them

[Moskitto]

Can anyone explain why people need money to motivate them to work but there's still amatuer sports?

Yeah work is hard but so is sport.

Yeah you do get some reward from sport, but 2 years of training and all I get is a couple of 2 cm wide "tiddley winks" as medals.

Yeah sport is fun, but can't you make work fun? And isn't some work fun for some people anyway?

Can anyone explain?

[libereco]

it's fun to play a game you like with people you like and have a competition now and then.

it's not fun to sit in front of your desk from 9-5 and fill out paperwork. It's not fun to stand at an assembly line all day and do the same thing over and over.
It is fun to do some jobs, but it's not the ones most people do.

[El Commandante]

For some sport is a release of stress and tension, like on a football field you can shout, scream and curse and no one will think differently of you, they'll just think that you're involved in the game. If you did this in the day to day grind of work you'd be sectioned by the men in white coats.

People do amateur sport for the enjoyment of it, having some fun with friends and breaking the normal routine. Sport is one of the few things left in which we dont know the out come before we do it so it gives people a thrill.

[celticsocialist]

I don`t think you need money to motivate people in sport. Most sports dont offer that much money to the average professional. Even football players don`t all make millions. If a second or third division player retires at 37 he is not going to be set for the rest of his life.
For every player on £40000 a week there are hundreds on £400 a week.
I would play football for a living for £200 a week no problem. Apart from the fact I am pretty crap at it and totally unfit.

[ShadowOfGuest]

"Find a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life"

[celticsocialist]

Quote: from ShadowOfGuest on 11:41 pm on Nov. 14, 2001
"Find a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life"

Ok, I found 2 jobs I like. Playing in my band, I made no money at that, and playing football, can`t find anyone daft enough to pay me to do that.

[ShadowOfGuest]

they're not jobs, those are leisure activities that some people happen to get paid for.

[Moskitto]

The carear I want to do involves going into restaurants and food shops and closing them down, telling people about health and safety regulations, investigating infectious diseases, testing water quality and a load of other stuff. Which I believe earns about £20,000 a year.

Then you go to the private sector and earn about £40,000 for telling people what's safe and what isn't.

[celticsocialist]

Quote: from ShadowOfGuest on 7:00 pm on Nov. 15, 2001
they're not jobs, those are leisure activities that some people happen to get paid for.

And the fact that they do it for a living would make them jobs.

[ShadowOfGuest]

i sure as hell know that i wouldnt consider getting paid for writing on this forum a job. It's a leisure activity, and one that by some quirk of fate someone would be willing to pay me for *prays for the day*
and that's exactly the situation footballers.
however, i will concede that this isn't the case for musicians.

However, if you are a musician, then the reason you aren't getting paid is because you aren't doing the kind of musical work that get's paid well.
to get a good pay in any job you have to fill the hole in the market (in this capitalist system). therefore as a musician you would have to learn an instrument that could be used in an orchestra, or maybe learn to DJ.

Your situation is like if a businessman decided he quite liked the idea of selling cheese if the market didnt want cheese.

That's capitalism for you.
And that's why we need communism, because people would have to work less, and have more time to explore artistic expression etc. marvellous, eh?

[Valkyrie]

People need to contribute their skills and talents to things that are either intellectually challenging, creative or beneficially helpful to society. Those are the type of things that can compensate for cash rewards and are things people are willing to make sacrifices for.