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The Guy
27th March 2012, 21:44
I really do love looking at pictures of Europeans standing up against fascism or creating some of the most inspiring graffiti the mainland has seen, but I recently ran into a problem.

ANTIFA are rightly against anti-Semitism as we all are. However, some even go as far to defend Zionism. In fact, at some rallies, they often sport Israeli flags. I understand the Israeli flag represents Jews - as least those Jews who recognise Israel - but is supporting the ideology of Zionism really supported by ANTIFA?

The Zionist ideology is not just repressive: it is deadly. Thousands have died trying to combat it. It is a system of narrow-minded nationalism which manipulates an innocent religion in order to cleanse a land of its people - regardless of whether you consider Palestinians as a created or indigenous people. It was founded with the assistance of British imperialism and is most certainly a very authoritative system - one which I'm surprised ANTIFA would be willing to defend.

So this is the question: where does ANTIFA stand on Zionism: for or against?

marl
27th March 2012, 21:54
Against, but there's a pro-Israeli minority called antideutsche.

Nox
27th March 2012, 21:58
Zionism is the embodiment of everything Antifa stands against. Of course Antifa is anti-Zionist.

l'Enfermé
27th March 2012, 22:01
Most Antifas tend to do some pro-Palestine activism to, actually. Well, maybe "many", not "most", but still I wouldn't say that anything other than a minority of antifas is pro-Zionism.

Sasha
28th March 2012, 10:27
http://www.revleft.com/vb/anti-germansi-t127324/index.html?t=127324
http://www.revleft.com/vb/anti-germansi-t143568/index.html?t=143568

Outside of Germany pro israelism among antifa is a insignificant or non existent minority, inside Germany its a very vocal minority

The Guy
30th March 2012, 16:42
http://www.revleft.com/vb/anti-germansi-t127324/index.html?t=127324
http://www.revleft.com/vb/anti-germansi-t143568/index.html?t=143568

Outside of Germany pro israelism among antifa is a insignificant or non existent minority, inside Germany its a very vocal minority

Ugh. I almost shivered reading through those posts - never mind the Wikipedia page.

That's absurd. Disgracing the name of ANTIFA in the name of conservative colonialism and sporting US flags whilst defining themselves as communists? I need a sit down.

NoPasaran1936
31st March 2012, 01:05
Ugh. I almost shivered reading through those posts - never mind the Wikipedia page.

That's absurd. Disgracing the name of ANTIFA in the name of conservative colonialism and sporting US flags whilst defining themselves as communists? I need a sit down.

It does sound like middle-class kids who haven't actually read the communist manifesto. Bless them.