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tradeunionsupporter
26th March 2012, 15:01
Has every American President been White expect for Obama because of White Privilege ? Are White American Presidents and Politicians any different from George Wallace David Duke or Tom Metzger George Lincoln Rockwell Dr. William Pierce or Adolf Hitler ? We all know that the Founding Fathers of the United States of America were White Supremacists Racists and Slave Owners yet many American Patriots both Liberals and or Conservatives will say that the Founding Fathers were a product of their time period and that all Whites were Racist back then but does this matter ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

Franz Fanonipants
26th March 2012, 15:53
yes, no, yes

NGNM85
26th March 2012, 21:56
Has every American President been White expect for Obama because of White Privilege ?

It was, essentially, impossible for an African American to be elected president of the United States, before Obama’s 2008 victory, because of racism.


Are White American Presidents and Politicians any different from George Wallace David Duke or Tom Metzger George Lincoln Rockwell Dr. William Pierce or Adolf Hitler ?

When you say things like this it makes it difficult for people to take you seriously. I won’t dignify the question with a response.



We all know that the Founding Fathers of the
United States of America were White Supremacists Racists and Slave Owners yet many American Patriots both Liberals and or Conservatives will say that the Founding Fathers were a product of their time period and that all Whites were Racist back then but does this matter ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

By the standards of today, the founders were, admittedly, comparatively, backwards, in several of respects. A number of the Founding Fathers never owned slaves, including both Sam, and John Adams, Thomas Paine, Alexander Hamilton, as well as less famous figures like Oliver Ellsworth and Roger Sherman. Ben Franklin became the leader of the Pennsylvania abolitionists. John Jay did the same. Washington was privately critical of slavery and emancipated his slaves in his will. Thomas Jefferson is a much more complicated case, he was openly critical of slavery, but owned slaves his whole life (Although, he did ensure they had the benefit of an education.) this may have been partly due to financial difficulties, there’s definitely a certain amount of hypocrisy in his case. It varies. You have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Six years after the Revolution, one third of the States had already abolished slavery. In twelve years, half the country had abolished slavery. Incidentally; there was actually going to be a paragraph on slavery in the Declaration of Independence (Although, Jefferson placed all the moral responsibility on England.) which was, ultimately, removed. As I understand it, the chief advocates of slavery were the representatives from Georgia and South Carolina, for reasons that should be fairly obvious.

In summation; Read a book.

Ostrinski
26th March 2012, 22:07
1. Every president has been white because people were only willing to elect a white man as president.

2. They were all bourgeois politicians, so not in any relevant way.

3. Every single one of us is a product of our environment/times/material conditions whatever you wanna call it.

Genghis
27th March 2012, 17:22
Generally speaking, people prefer their own kind. Its true of any race - white, black, hispanic, asian. Racism is something all of us must guard against.

RGacky3
27th March 2012, 17:30
Generally speaking, people prefer their own kind. Its true of any race - white, black, hispanic, asian. Racism is something all of us must guard against.


In what respects? According to what evidence? Also what does that have to do with white privilege?

#FF0000
27th March 2012, 17:34
Generally speaking, people prefer their own kind. Its true of any race - white, black, hispanic, asian.

you're only half-right, dogg. People might prefer in-groups to out-groups but whether someone defines that in-group or out-group according to skin color is a matter of learned behavior.


Racism is something all of us must guard against.

white people

RGacky3
27th March 2012, 17:36
1. Every president has been white because people were only willing to elect a white man as president.

2. They were all bourgeois politicians, so not in any relevant way.

3. Every single one of us is a product of our environment/times/material conditions whatever you wanna call it.


I agree with everyone other than 1, the reason there has'nt been a black president until now is that most black people were systemically barred from going that high up until recently, not because people would'nt vote for them.


white people

There is plenty of racism in the world that is'nt white on someone else racism.

#FF0000
27th March 2012, 17:39
There is plenty of racism in the world that is'nt white on someone else racism.

u dont say

im just saying that the 'racism isn't something to constantly guard against' thing is p. much something you would only hear a clueless person who has never had to deal with racial discrimination say.

RGacky3
27th March 2012, 17:44
im just saying that the 'racism isn't something to constantly guard against' thing is p. much something you would only hear a clueless person who has never had to deal with racial discrimination say.

I agree, its a systemic institutional problem, not a problem of individual "tolerance".

Hit The North
27th March 2012, 18:04
Most were selective white men in that the vast majority of US presidents can have their lineage traced back to the British Isles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_American#Presidents_of_English_descent). This even includes Obama who's ancestors can be traced back to England and Ireland as well as Kenya. This means that people from other European countries such as Italy, France, Germany and Russia have barely had a look-in when it comes to the top job, never mind people with a non-European ancestry.