Tuareg rebellion 2012

[sithsaber]

What are your views on it?

[Prometeo liberado]

Its your thread, why do I have to do all the footwork?

[TheGodlessUtopian]

What is this rebellion you are referring to?

[PC LOAD LETTER]

National liberation movement in Mali
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/03/20123208133276463.html

"to free the people of Azawad from the illegal occupation of its territory by Mali"

[L.A.P.]

It's the most recent of many rebellions of the Tuareg people which are a nomadic Berber people and primary inhabitants of the Sahara of North Africa. The insurgency is led by the National Movement for the Liberation of Azwad and made up of many former soldiers in the Libyan Army, which is ironic considering Gaddafi's repression of several Berber peoples such as Ghadames, Soknas, Nafusis, and Awjilas. I guess they want independence from Mali and the getting suppoprt from the United States.

EDIT: Scratch that, the United States is supporting the Malian state

[Sasha]

The under equipped national army of Mali is pulling a coup at this very moment.

[Omsk]

More bad news.

[sithsaber]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17462111

Renegade Mali soldiers announce takeover

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59230000/jpg/_59230339_jex_1357662_de27-1.jpg
It is unclear where the president and members of his government are now

Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17462111#story_continues_1) Related Stories



Sand and fury: Mali's Tuareg rebels (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17357122)
Mali protests over Tuareg rebels (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16853692)
Libyan Tuareg face reprisals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14948319)


Rebel troops have appeared on Malian state TV to announce they have seized control of the country, hours after attacking the presidential palace.
The soldiers said a nationwide curfew was in force and that the constitution had been suspended.
The troops, who staged a mutiny on Wednesday, say the government is not giving them enough arms to tackle a rebellion by ethnic Tuaregs.
West African regional body Ecowas has condemned the actions of the troops.
In a statement, it said it had followed the situation with "dismay and mounting concern", describing the behaviour of the mutinous soldiers as "reprehensible" and "misguided".
Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17462111#story_continues_2) Mali troop mutiny

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59232000/jpg/_59232932_sonogo_bbcgrab.jpg


Mutiny leader Capt Amadou Sanogo (pictured above) has imposed a national curfew
It follows anger among troops at the government's handling of a Tuareg rebellion in the north
The whereabouts of President Amadou Toumani Toure are unknown
A number of ministers have been arrested
Country has had democratic rule for 20 years



Sand and fury: Mali's Tuareg rebels (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17357122)
Mali country profile (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13881370)


It comes after the renegade troops had staged a mutiny traded gunfire with soldiers loyal to the government.
A source told the BBC that the foreign minister and a number of other ministers have been arrested.
On Wednesday the mutineers had taken over the state radio and TV broadcaster in Bamako and took it off air.
After several hours of footage of traditional Malian music and dancing, a group of soldiers appeared on screen early on Thursday morning, with a caption identifying them as the "Committee for the Re-establishment of Democracy and the Restoration of the State".
The leader of the mutiny was revealed to be Capt Amadou Sanogo, who appeared briefly to announce the imposition of a national curfew, although he did not specifying the time.
A spokesman for the rebels, identified on screen as Lt Amadou Konare, said they had ended the "incompetent regime" of President Amadou Toumani Toure.
Lt Konare condemned the "inability" of the government to "fight terrorism", and said the soldiers would look to hand over to a democratically elected government.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59231000/gif/_59231643_mali_bamako_304.gif
There has not yet been any reaction from President Toure to the announcement.
The BBC's Martin Vogl, in Bamako, said the exact whereabouts of the President Toure were not known.
He said it was not clear whether the mutinous soldiers, up to 15 of whom were seen on screen, have complete control of the presidential palace or have the support of all the Malian forces.
Our correspondent said an elite force, known as the Red Berets, could still be loyal to President Toure.
He said Mali has had democratic rule for the last 20 years, during which it has come to be seen as a model which other emerging democracies can look to.
'Recruits riot in the north' The unrest began on Wednesday as the country's defence minister started a tour of military barracks north of the capital.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59230000/jpg/_59230553_014322204-1.jpg Residents in Bamako said soldiers were firing into the air overnight in celebration
Soldiers fired in the air during the inspection, prompting an immediate strengthening of security around the presidential palace.
Troops are upset with the government's handling of a Tuareg rebellion in the north of the country, and are also reportedly opposed to any potential talks with the rebels.
There was heavy gunfire in Bamako throughout Wednesday, and armoured vehicles had moved in to protect the presidential palace. Gunshots reportedly continued to ring out overnight.
A member of the presidential guard described the fighting to AFP news agency.
"We are in control of the presidential palace. People are shooting towards us and we are returning fire," he said.
In the northern town of Gao, young recruits were said to have begun rioting at a military base, according to the Associated Press.
Both the US and France have urged the soldiers and government to resolve their dispute through peaceful means.
The Tuaregs have forced the army out of several northern towns in recent months.
A presidential election was due to take place in the country in just under a month.
The government had so far refused to postpone the poll, despite the unrest involving Tuareg-led rebels.

[seventeethdecember2016]

I usually take little interest in Nationalistic movements like this, but this one is a tad more significant. I always take a lot of interest in Tribal governments like what is being proposed for Azawad.
As an added bonus, it is an vacuum for instability in the American/European Empire, and I will always support that.

Gao, Kidal, and Timbuktu are all taken. Azawad is larger than France, and this insurgency is likely going to last for years. Go Azawad!

As for the coup- I disagree with it, but I hope with the possible isolation he'll adopt Socialism.
That'll make me change my opinion.

[L.A.P.]

I usually take little interest in Nationalistic movements like this, but this one is a tad more significant. I always take a lot of interest in Tribal governments like what is being proposed for Azawad.
As an added bonus, it is an vacuum for instability in the American/European Empire, and I will always support that.

Gao, Kidal, and Timbuktu are all taken. Azawad is larger than France, and this insurgency is likely going to last for years. Go Azawad!

As for the coup- I disagree with it, but I hope with the possible isolation he'll adopt Socialism.
That'll make me change my opinion.

There is no way socialism or anything progressive will be acheived by this series of events.

[sithsaber]

According to the Tuareg, the entirety of "Azawad" is under their control. Although in theory i am supportive of Azawad (Post colonial national boundaries were bullshit)(although the idea of the nation state is also kind of bullshit) (although linguistic, cultural and religious boundaries should be respected and if a region is marginalized long enough it should have to the right to self determination) (although this merely divides the proletariat of the world)

STOP!
Just stop

As i was saying, i doubt Mali's neighbors would allow a tuareg nation state when they have their own restive minority populations to deal with and if the rumors are true, there is almost no way in hell the US will let a vacuum or a questionable tribal government arise in an area that holds with uranium deposits

[pastradamus]

Whatever the result. If the Tuareg get what they want they will inherit an enormously desertified state with mined materials being the only feasible means of making and economy.

[seventeethdecember2016]

There is no way socialism or anything progressive will be acheived by this series of events.
This guy did a U-turn so far. He first said that he was going to create a new constitution. Now he has said he is bringing the old one back. What does this tell you about this guys behavior?

You are very much right though, Socialism most likely won't be adopted there.

[Orlov]

National liberation for the exploited Tuareg is the only answer, like in many other regions US imperialism will be defeated by the Tuareg revolutionaries in a way that many other national resistance forces have done in the past. The Tuareg now know their worth and will seize control knowing their deserving of statehood and liberation. There is only victory ahead.

[sithsaber]

National liberation for the exploited Tuareg is the only answer, like in many other regions US imperialism will be defeated by the Tuareg revolutionaries in a way that many other national resistance forces have done in the past. The Tuareg now know their worth and will seize control knowing their deserving of statehood and liberation. There is only victory ahead.

Unless ECOWAS and NATO decide to bomb the shit out of them. If that happens a continued and intensified proctracted guerrilla war will occur (although the Algerians may support them for some reason i don't know)(and southern liban seems to be going to shit anyway so future conflict in the region may be inevitable)