Positive quotes about women by Marx or other Marxist

[R_P_A_S]

Over the weekend I had some good discussions about women and their rights. 2 girl-friends found it interesting that I got my progressive views on womens rights from "communism". I wanted to ask from you guys to contribute some quotes or just any paragraphs in which Marx, Engles or any other revolutionary exposes capitalism, society and show how women are exploited or anything that shows the injustice against women via capitalism.
thanks!






The bourgeois sees in his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that [under communism] the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion than that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to women. He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at [by communists] is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.1

[Prometeo liberado]

“Feminism is the radical notion that women are people"
Unknown source.

[Ostrinski]

"Women hold up half the sky"- Mao Tse-Tung

yeah yeah I know but it's a good quote

[TheGodlessUtopian]

For quotes I would suggest looking into the Marxists Internet Archive and go to the Feminist section.There you should find some good leads on how to proceed.

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

Jenny and Laura: "Your favorite virtue in a man?"
Marx: "Strength."

Jenny and Laura: "Your favorite virtue in a woman?"
Marx: "Weakness."

- Karl Marx's replies to a letter with a set of parlor game questions from Jenny and Laura.
Recorded in English by Laura in 1865.


Oh, Karl Marx just had a misogynist moment.:laugh:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Jenny and Laura: "Your favorite virtue in a man?"
Marx: "Strength."

Jenny and Laura: "Your favorite virtue in a woman?"
Marx: "Weakness."

- Karl Marx's replies to a letter with a set of parlor game questions from Jenny and Laura.
Recorded in English by Laura in 1865.


Oh, Karl Marx just had a misogynist moment.:laugh:

I believe Engles was the same way, Marx was also homophobic; a unbecoming trait for the fathers of economic democracy but I guess not everyone is perfect.An unfortunate fact that progressives can hold bigotries while maintaining their revolutionary nature.

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

I believe Engles was the same way, Marx was also homophobic; a unbecoming trait for the fathers of economic democracy but I guess not everyone is perfect.An unfortunate fact that progressives can hold bigotries while maintaining their revolutionary nature.

Not even the best people in the world are perfect.

[lombas]

I believe Engles was the same way, Marx was also homophobic;

... like probably around 95% of other people in the nineteenth century. You know: "collective consciousness" amounts to something. For any philosopher, it's the seeds you plant and not the harvest you reap that count.

If this would not be the case, prominent leftist philosopher like Arendt and Sartre couldn't have been inspired by someone like Heidegger.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

... like probably around 95% of other people in the nineteenth century. You know: "collective consciousness" amounts to something. For any philosopher, it's the seeds you plant and not the harvest you reap that count.

If this would not be the case, prominent leftist philosopher like Arendt and Sartre couldn't have been inspired by someone like Heidegger.

Also had to do with the emerging gay liberation movements; with homosexuals in Germany beginning to assert themselves heterosexual men who closly worked together felt threatened to defend their sexual orientation from suspicion.

[Os Cangaceiros]

"Everyone who knows anything of history also knows that great social revolutions are impossible without the feminine ferment."

That's the only famous Marx quote about women that I know of, suprised it hasn't been mentioned already.

[lombas]

Also had to do with the emerging gay liberation movements; with homosexuals in Germany beginning to assert themselves heterosexual men who closly worked together felt threatened to defend their sexual orientation from suspicion.

I assisted a PhD student once in his studies on the origins of the gay liberation movement where I live, and his "European benchmark" showed the German origins lay in the beginning of the twentieth century, so a couple of years after Marx. (Idem England, for instance, remember Wilde.)

Whatever personal opinion he had, it doesn't matter much in a world were "gayness" wasn't in the open. There was no social issue, no "gayfragettes", well, no fuzz.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I assisted a PhD student once in his studies on the origins of the gay liberation movement where I live, and his "European benchmark" showed the German origins lay in the beginning of the twentieth century, so a couple of years after Marx. (Idem England, for instance, remember Wilde.)

Whatever personal opinion he had, it doesn't matter much in a world were "gayness" wasn't in the open. There was no social issue, no "gayfragettes", well, no fuzz.

According to my sources the movement began in 1897 when the Scientific-Humanitarian Committee was formed and individuals began gathering signatures to reduce the punishment of homosexual intercourse.


The committee's... first action was the preparation and circulation of a three page petition which outlined the scientific and humanitarian reasons for amending paragraph 175 so that homosexual acts would only be punished in cases involving coercion, public annoyance, or adult-minor relationsSource: The Homosexual Emancipation Movement in Germany by James D. Steakley, page 30

Of course that was when the movement first began picking up significant steam. The origins of the movement began as far back as 1862 Jean Bapiste Von Schweitzer began efforts to distribute his semi-homoerotic plays.This still leaves plenty of time for important public figures to react to events where they were born.

In writing to Marx Engles says...


Dear Moor,
I don’t know whether you have such fine weather there as we have here, but daylight has been so exhausted that, on the longest day, we had to turn the gas on at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. And it is devilish to read or write when you don’t know whether it is day or night.
Tussy [Eleanor] is very jolly. This morning the whole family went shopping (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1869/letters/69_06_22.htm#); tomorrow evening they want to go to the theatre. She has read right through [Goethe’s] Hermann und Dorothea, not without difficulty because of the idyllic philistines’ twaddle. Now I have given her the younger Edda, which contains several nice stories; then she can read from the elder one the songs of Sigurd and Gudrun. She also plays the piano sedulously. I have also read Danish Kjämpeviser with her.
So that is Wilhelm’s entire success: that the male-female line and the all-female line of the Lassalleans have united! He really has achieved something there. Schweitzer will naturally be re-elected in view of the precipitacy with which the business has been conducted — and then he will, once again, be the chosen one of general suffrage. Wilhelm is also preserving an obstinate silence about this event.
The Urning you sent me is a very curious thing. These are extremely unnatural revelations. The paederasts [homosexual paedophiles] are beginning to count themselves, and discover that they are a power in the state. Only organisation was lacking, but according to this source it apparently already exists in secret. And since they have such important men in all the old parties and even in the new ones, from Rosing to Schweitzer, they cannot fail to triumph. Guerre aux cons, paix aus trous-de-cul [war on the ****s, peace to the arse-holes] will now be the slogan. It is a bit of luck that we, personally, are too old to have to fear that, when this party wins, we shall have to pay physical tribute to the victors. But the younger generation! Incidentally it is only in Germany that a fellow like this can possibly come forward, convert this smut into a theory, and offer (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1869/letters/69_06_22.htm#) the invitation: introite [enter], etc. Unfortunately, he has not yet got up the courage to acknowledge publicly that he is ‘that way’, and must still operate coram publico‘ from the front’, if not ‘going in from the front’ as he once said by mistake. But just wait until the new North German Penal Code recognises the droits du cul [rights of the arse-hole] then he will operate quite differently. Then things will go badly enough for poor frontside people like us, with our childish penchant for females. If Schweitzer could be made useful for anything, it would be to wheedle out of this peculiar honourable gentleman the particulars of the paederasts in high and top places, which would certainly not be difficult for him as a brother in spirit.
At the end of the week, Schorlemmer will be going to Germany for 4 weeks via Grimsby and Rotterdam (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1869/letters/69_06_22.htm#).
The strikes here in the cotton factories have been over since this morning, when the Oldhamites went back. So overproduction has no restraints any more.
Close of post. Best (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1869/letters/69_06_22.htm#) greetings.
Your
F. E.