10 reasons the rest of the world thinks the us is nuts

[bcbm]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/soraya-chemaly/womens-reproductive-rights_b_1345214.html

some of these are just unbelievable. depressing

[gorillafuck]

to be fair I recently wrote an article for crimethinc on how it would be immoral to surpass pigs in medical technology.


but seriously, this is all totally nuts. is the US the only western country that has abortion as hot of an issue as it is here?

[arilando]

to be fair I recently wrote an article for crimethinc on how it would be immoral to surpass pigs in medical technology.


but seriously, this is all totally nuts. is the US the only western country that has abortion as hot of an issue as it is here?
I think Australia has it too, through to a lesser extent.

[Le Libérer]

Abortion is always a hot topic come election year. Then it fades away until its time to vote one of them in again.

[ed miliband]

to be fair I recently wrote an article for crimethinc on how it would be immoral to surpass pigs in medical technology.


but seriously, this is all totally nuts. is the US the only western country that has abortion as hot of an issue as it is here?

big issue in ireland where it's still illegal and, if the last time i was in dublin is anything to go by, people hold mass protests in the city centre to ensure it stays that way.

mental.

[CommieTroll]

big issue in ireland where it's still illegal and, if the last time i was in dublin is anything to go by, people hold mass protests in the city centre to ensure it stays that way.

mental.

I've got death threats (not serious ones) from right wingers when I've told people I was pro choice. It's weird that even most Liberals in Ireland are against abortion too.

[Dr Doom]

big issue in ireland where it's still illegal and, if the last time i was in dublin is anything to go by, people hold mass protests in the city centre to ensure it stays that way.

mental.

lol yeah although its much worse up north, we're pretty much the bible belt of europe. mental would be an understatement.

[l'Enfermé]

Forcing women to carry dead fetuses? Criminalizing miscarriage? Involuntary vaginal penetration(i.e rape?)? Taxing women who get abortions because they were raped? Firing women for using contraception?

Some Americans are insane.

[Rooster]

I don't think it's a big issue in most areas of Europe. Maybe in some of the more religious parts, yeah, but that's to be expected and Europe isn't one big state so it's easier for less religious places not to make a big deal over it.

[marl]

What's the argument against transvaginal ultrasounds (besides the fact they're painful)?

[Zukunftsmusik]

What's the argument against transvaginal ultrasounds (besides the fact they're painful)?

that when it's done against someone's will it's technically rape according to the law.

[Althusser]

So, to sum it all up... Rick Santorum

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Fucking barbarism at its worst.

Is the fact that the US is such a young (relatively speaking) country have something to do with its strongly conservative values, in comparison to much of western europe?

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Fucking barbarism at its worst.

Is the fact that the US is such a young (relatively speaking) country have something to do with its strongly conservative values, in comparison to much of western europe?

I don;t think that is a primary part of America's conservationism (especially when the united states is actually considered progressive among the world powers). There are many older nations who still burn homosexuals to death and force women to wear traditional garments. Besides, while I am no expert on western Europe many states there do not even have marriage equality and transgender rights, correct?

[Revolutionair]

Besides, while I am no expert on western Europe many states there do not even have marriage equality and transgender rights, correct?

2 Gay friends of mine recently got married, so gay marriage is legal in the Netherlands.

[Offbeat]

When revolution finally comes to the US, there won't be enough rope to hang all the reactionary bigoted right-wingers. Sorry if that sounds a bit over-zealous but reading that article just made me so angry.

[Decolonize The Left]

The conservatism in the US stems from its puritanical founding not-so-long ago. Anytime you found a fucking country on religious bigotry it's probably not going to end well...

- August

[Aurora]

big issue in ireland where it's still illegal and, if the last time i was in dublin is anything to go by, people hold mass protests in the city centre to ensure it stays that way.

mental.
The unfortunate thing is that it's not really a big issue here in as much as there isn't a large movement to legalise abortion, i haven't ever heard of a large pro-life protest and i can only remember one time where 3 pro-lifers were handing out leaflets with pictures of foetuses.

Heres some opinion polls from the last couple years:
A 1997 Irish Times/MRBI poll found that 18% believed that abortion should never be permitted, 77% believed that it should be allowed in certain circumstances (this was broken down into: 35% that one should be allowed in the event that the woman's life is threatened; 14% if her health is at risk; 28% that "an abortion should be provided to those who need it") and 5% were undecided.[5]

A September 2004 Royal College of Surgeons survey for the Crisis Pregnancy Agency found that, in the under-45 age groups, 51% supported abortion on-demand, with 39% favouring the right to abortion in limited circumstances. Only 8% felt that abortion should not be permitted in any circumstances.[6]
A September 2005 Irish Examiner/Lansdowne poll found that 36% believe abortion should be legalized while 47% do not.[7]

A June 2007 TNS/MRBI poll found that 43% supported legal abortion if a woman believed it was in her best interest while 51% remained opposed. 82% favoured legalization for cases when the woman's life is in danger, 75% when the fetus cannot survive outside the womb, and 73% when the pregnancy has resulted from sexual abuse.[8]

A January 2010 Irish Examiner/RedC online poll found that 60% of 18-35 year olds believe abortion should be legalised, and that 10% of this age group had been in a relationship where an abortion took place. The same survey also showed that 75% of women believed the morning-after pill should be an over-the-counter (OTC) drug, as opposed to a prescription drug.[9]
According to the polls a majority want abortion to be available in case of danger to the woman(which is actually the law but it still is not available) and it's pretty close between support for abortion on demand and no abortion.

[manic expression]

The conservatism in the US stems from its puritanical founding not-so-long ago. Anytime you found a fucking country on religious bigotry it's probably not going to end well...
Eh, puritans didn't found the country, they just claimed New England awhile back (by mistake) and by the time of the Revolution even they weren't into true fundamentalism anymore. The Quakers probably had as much if not more influence on early US thinking than the puritans did...to say nothing of the essentially anti-puritan Enlightenment which was almost without doubt the strongest tendency.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

2 Gay friends of mine recently got married, so gay marriage is legal in the Netherlands.

Great for the Netherlands but not so great for the other countries, yes?

[La Comédie Noire]

While I can sympathize with those who are a little scared of abortion, it does say something about humanity and its place in the universe. I cannot get over this downright anti-woman attitude of the Republican Right.

[Quail]

What's the argument against transvaginal ultrasounds (besides the fact they're painful)?
If they're mandatory, not only is it a violation of a woman's body, but if she's a survivor of sexual assault, it's likely to be extremely triggering.

[manic expression]

I honestly don't understand this notion that women aren't heavily and permanently affected by the decision to have an abortion. From all that I've seen, no woman is entirely the same after making that decision, it truly is life-altering. So no, women don't need a forced transvaginal ultrasound to know that they're getting rid of a potential life that's growing inside their bodies...it's nothing but intimidation and humiliation, f*ck anyone that supports it and the high horse they rode in on.

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

So, to sum it all up... Rick Santorum

I didn't know what you meant by Rick Santorum... but what does "The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex." have to do with this thread?