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The Young Pioneer
17th March 2012, 01:01
I feel stupid for asking this but I guess I'm not too big to admit ignorance?

A friend of mine is always *****ing about job outsourcing in the US. My question is- Is this really one of the big problems the American job market faces? And is it really so bad that things are international? I mean I get that there's at least some exploitation of cheap overseas labour involved here but should Americans really be upset for the reason of "some German is getting my job" or etc. ?

To me it comes off as a bit of a nationalist 'MURIKA thing to get pissed about, but then again, I don't know enough about the situation to make an actual informed opinion. My questions might even be constructed based on assumptions I'm making without knowing enough lol.

So please enlighten me comrades. :thumbup1:

Ostrinski
17th March 2012, 01:03
It is just nationalism. To have such moral standards for the bourgeoisie as to expect them not to exploit cheap labor wherever it exists is an absurdity.

The Young Pioneer
18th March 2012, 21:29
I assume the mass silence means the answer is either an unknown or a consensus with the only poster?

Drosophila
18th March 2012, 21:36
Bringing those manufacturing jobs back to the US would just give way for a decrease in the minimum wage.

Revolution starts with U
19th March 2012, 05:00
Nationalists are the only ones upset about outsourcing because other ethnicities are getting "their" jobs. Socialists (should) at least not be vehement against that aspect of outsourcing. The proletariat is international, that is to say a-national; without nations.

Socialists dislike outsourcing because it is merely a bourgious means of temporarily escaping class struggle. As Perenti says, "capitalism doesn't solve its problems. It shifts them around geographically."

I don't so much oppose outsourcing as much as I support the effort to raise the class consciousness and solidarity of the universal proletariat. If all people are comfortable in demanding Socialism, that is to say public control of production, where then will the bourgiousie even find cheap labor?

PC LOAD LETTER
19th March 2012, 05:04
A result of the falling rate of profit. As dan74 alluded, the only way to reverse this is to make it profitable to produce in the US again ... by inflation and removal of all labor protections.