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OnlyCommunistYouKnow
15th March 2012, 18:06
Is the DPRK democratic? It's in the name of the nation, but that doesn't mean it automatically is. And if it is democratic, was Kim Jong Un elected? Or did he just take power after his fathers death?

TheGodlessUtopian
15th March 2012, 22:53
Depends on what you mean by "democratic."

Bostana
15th March 2012, 22:56
If by Democratic you mean Capitalist, Imperialist, fascist who pose as a Communist nation but are really Revisionists.

Then yes, Democratic.

Le Socialiste
15th March 2012, 23:02
The DPRK is a mixture of top-down centralism and traditional, dynastic influences. The Korean people are not organized for their self-liberation, but for the sustainment and maintenance of the state. The government's legitimacy lies in its support for the Kim family, which combines mysticism with Korean nationalism to foster divisions in Korean society and subdue challenges to its authority. It is not democratic in any sense of the word.

Comrade Samuel
15th March 2012, 23:05
It stands against everything communist like bostana said it's a fascist,impiralist capitalist, revisionist sh*t hole not to mention a borderline monarchy

Bronco
15th March 2012, 23:08
Pretty sure their "elections" involve them "suggesting" the best candidate for the job, there are alternatives who can in theory be voted for but it normally happens that the candidate who the leadership want will get 99% of the vote or something ridiculous like that.

And of course Kim Jong Un doesn't need elected, he's the Supreme Leader!

Yefim Zverev
15th March 2012, 23:09
best democracy on earth..

Bronco
15th March 2012, 23:09
If by Democratic you mean Capitalist, Imperialist, fascist who pose as a Communist nation but are really Revisionists.

Then yes, Democratic.


It stands against everything communist like bostana said it's a fascist,impiralist capitalist, revisionist sh*t hole not to mention a borderline monarchy

Bit stupid to say it's Fascist and Capitalist, the latter yes but not the former

Omsk
15th March 2012, 23:11
Although it is quite nationalist,and tries to use myths and paranormal events in the propaganda apparatus,it is not fascist.Although it is horribly revisionist.

Vyacheslav Brolotov
15th March 2012, 23:20
Come on. No nation can honestly call itself democratic and socialist if they put the military and the ruling family above the working class.

CommieTroll
15th March 2012, 23:54
I'd nearly bet that there were Nazi prison camps that were more Democratic than the DPRK

Yefim Zverev
16th March 2012, 00:03
have the feeling this guy is troll but ok

CommieTroll
16th March 2012, 00:10
have the feeling this guy is troll but ok

If you're talking about me then you're wrong, I wasn't being serious in that post. This isn't the first time I've been questioned as a troll either, I'm probably going to change my username.

Yefim Zverev
16th March 2012, 00:13
If you're talking about me then you're wrong, I wasn't being serious in that post. This isn't the first time I've been questioned as a troll either, I'm probably going to change my username.

not u .. it is op...

a good troll would not include word "troll" in his nickname :)

I saw a serial names similar to his.. all came out as trolls

Brosip Tito
16th March 2012, 00:20
No. It is anti-democratic in every sense of the word. In the bourgeois sense as well as in the Marxian sense.

The DPRK is a fucked up, pseudo-theocratic capitalist society. Where the workers have little to no rights and the bureaucratic elite of the party, government, military, etc. enjoy the status of upper class privileged owners of the means of production. Fuck the DPRK state and anyone who supports them.


Bit stupid to say it's Fascist and Capitalist, the latter yes but not the former
I agree, not fascism. However, fascism is capitalism, my dude. Unless you are commenting on the redundancy of calling it both...in which case yeah.

cb9's_unity
16th March 2012, 01:51
North Korea has nothing to do with democracy. However, calling the DPRK fascist, capitalist, monarchical or anything doesn't really fit or matter.

The only thing that really matters when looking at the DPRK is that it is an exploitative state, and that it does so in a relatively unique way. When people start trying to assign it different political orientations they are gasping into the past for solutions that just aren't there.

The state that rules North Korea is an abomination that isn't similar enough to the western imperialist states to play nice with them. What has resulted is a chess game between the two sides, the Korean people acting as the disposable pawns.

Искра
16th March 2012, 01:58
No, the only thing that matters is looking DPRK as part of capitalist World system.

Ocean Seal
16th March 2012, 02:04
Wow new guy with 5 posts makes a troll thread and people post serious responses.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/046/321/trololol.jpg

Bronco
16th March 2012, 02:07
Wow new guy with 5 posts makes a troll thread and people post serious responses.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/046/321/trololol.jpg

New guy asking common new guy question in the forum for new guys, I don't think it's that odd or that obvious a troll thread

Brosa Luxemburg
16th March 2012, 02:11
No, North Korea is not democratic, socialist, etc. Just because it's in the name of the country does not mean a single thing.

Ostrinski
16th March 2012, 02:22
No. In no universe could you make the vaguest, abstract suggestion that the North Korean government has any democratic character.

Ocean Seal
16th March 2012, 02:26
New guy asking common new guy question in the forum for new guys, I don't think it's that odd or that obvious a troll thread
Never have I heard someone ask this question. Maybe I could buy is the DPRK socialist, but come on.

Bronco
16th March 2012, 02:29
Never have I heard someone ask this question. Maybe I could buy is the DPRK socialist, but come on.

Wouldn't say that the two questions - "Is the DPRK Socialist" and "Is the DPRK democratic" - are exactly poles apart

Ostrinski
16th March 2012, 02:30
Wouldn't say that the two questions - "Is the DPRK Socialist" and "Is the DPRK democratic" - are exactly poles apartI think he meant that the question itself seems more understandable given the common perception of socialism.

Bronco
16th March 2012, 02:39
I think he meant that the question itself seems more understandable given the common perception of socialism.

Yeah but still it isn't that uncommon for new leftists to ask a question like this which is essentially challenging the Western perception of NK, and instead asking if the view propagated by North Korea itself that they are "democratic" is indeed correct. But anyway, maybe you're both right and the OP is a troll and I'm just being a bit slow here, but I didn't immediately see reason to think they were one

OnlyCommunistYouKnow
16th March 2012, 13:25
Thanks for the answers. My friend highly supports the DPRK and always called it a democracy. He said the workers party had full control of the nation and they elected Kim Jong Un, which I had always questioned.

Amal
16th March 2012, 17:03
Thanks for the answers. My friend highly supports the DPRK and always called it a democracy. He said the workers party had full control of the nation and they elected Kim Jong Un, which I had always questioned.
If so, then I suggest you also question the "answers(!)" and remarks given on this thread. After all, asking questions are good habit! But, problem with people is that they most often like questions to be asked on the line of their thought or preconceived notion. They rarely tolerate the vice-verse. So far, I haven't found any proper information about DPRK in this thread other than the general slanderings that we know by virtue of popular media.
Whatsoever, at least I can say that people of DPRK are in better condition than people of India which has more mobile phones than toilets. At least, I myself like to be on DPRK than India, THE WORLD'S BIGGEST DEMOCRACY!