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Lacrimi de Chiciură
28th November 2003, 06:52
http://www.giwersworld.org/israel/more-pics/
The Holy Land in pictures
Comrade Ceausescu
28th November 2003, 07:01
Honestly,I am not suprised.
Monty Cantsin
28th November 2003, 07:29
Makes my stomach true, also makes me wont to scream justice for pristine.
Intifada
28th November 2003, 14:38
FUCKING ISRAELI WANKERS!!!!!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:
Hate Is Art
28th November 2003, 15:15
those burnt children, grrrr, it makes FUCKING ANGRY!
come one zionist wankers can you come up with some exucse for this one? where they repressing you?
Edward Norton
28th November 2003, 15:50
All of this carnage so a few jewish fundamentalist barbarians can live in the 'land of moses'.
Despite the media calling these jewish settlers 'civillians', they are part of the isreali states program of genocide against the palestinians.
ALL JEWISH SETTLERS SHOULD BE ELIMINATED AND SPARED NO MERCY ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE IDF AND THE ISREALI ESTABLISHMENT.
Desert Fox
28th November 2003, 17:16
This site doesn't suprise me at all, wars are gruesome and offcourse they have scenes like shown on the site. I am not really moved by those pictures, since I have seen so much suffering already, BUT it makes me dislike Israel even more <_<
Urban Rubble
28th November 2003, 18:01
God this is bullshit. I'm so sick of people doing this.
Listen, posting pictures of dead babies is a stupid, cheap way to get people on your side. I support a free Palestine just as much as anyone, but posting pics of dead people is just stupid. I could just as easily post pics of Israeli victims of suicide bombings. These pics prove nothing except that there is a war going on.
If this is how you have to get people on your side then you're pathetic.
Bolshevika
28th November 2003, 18:08
ALL JEWISH SETTLERS SHOULD BE ELIMINATED AND SPARED NO MERCY ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE IDF AND THE ISREALI ESTABLISHMENT.
Agreed. I think Palestinian fighters should not bomb civilian areas in Jerusalem etc, but they should kill as many Israeli soldiers and settlers as they can, it is defense.
Desert Fox
28th November 2003, 19:41
Originally posted by Urban
[email protected] 28 2003, 08:01 PM
God this is bullshit. I'm so sick of people doing this.
Listen, posting pictures of dead babies is a stupid, cheap way to get people on your side. I support a free Palestine just as much as anyone, but posting pics of dead people is just stupid. I could just as easily post pics of Israeli victims of suicide bombings. These pics prove nothing except that there is a war going on.
If this is how you have to get people on your side then you're pathetic.
Well said, that is why I am unaffected by those kind of propaganda every war is dirty, that has been like this since the begining of time. But the things may look bad and they are but like ya said it is a cheap way to get people on your side ;)
HankMorgan
28th November 2003, 19:48
Originally posted by Urban
[email protected] 28 2003, 03:01 PM
God this is bullshit. I'm so sick of people doing this.
Listen, posting pictures of dead babies is a stupid, cheap way to get people on your side. I support a free Palestine just as much as anyone, but posting pics of dead people is just stupid. I could just as easily post pics of Israeli victims of suicide bombings. These pics prove nothing except that there is a war going on.
If this is how you have to get people on your side then you're pathetic.
Are you listening, peaccenicked? Demogoguery has no affect other than to inflame emotion. It does not bring a solution any closer.
I pray that those two peoples learn to live on one land.
Desert Fox
28th November 2003, 19:54
Originally posted by
[email protected] 28 2003, 09:48 PM
I pray that those two peoples learn to live on one land.
You can only dream ...
This struggle has been there for ages, and I don't see it dissapear anyday soon :(
flayer2
28th November 2003, 20:15
You are so right fox . The propaganda war is very important whether we like it or not. Though I sympathise with the victims shown, too much of this may provoke extreme reactions.
A while back somebody posted a photo of a settler outpost showing high classed buildings with a luxury swimming pool and next to it a photo of a downtrodden palistinian village. These kinds of photos, I think would have a positive effect and more fit for amerikan and western public consumption.
Urban Rubble
28th November 2003, 20:16
Bolshevika and Edward Norton things like this make me sick, you should fucking be ashamed of yourselves:
ALL JEWISH SETTLERS SHOULD BE ELIMINATED AND SPARED NO MERCY ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE IDF AND THE ISREALI ESTABLISHMENT.
Shortsighted bullshit like this is the reason this conflict persists. Both sides are guilty of many sickening attrocities. To say that the answer is to continue killing people is mind numbing, I cannot belive you think like this. Explain this train wreck of a sentence to me, because I cannot comprehend how you think shooting Jewish settlers is helping anything. It helps no more than Israelis bombing apartments looking for one terrorist. With these kinds of tactics this war will persist for many many decades to come. And bullshit like you 2 just spit out is only feeding the flames of hatred.
Both of you can fuck off. Bolshevika, you are becoming one of those people that makes me sick with every one of your posts.
(*
28th November 2003, 20:38
Originally posted by Urban
[email protected] 28 2003, 02:01 PM
God this is bullshit. I'm so sick of people doing this.
Listen, posting pictures of dead babies is a stupid, cheap way to get people on your side. I support a free Palestine just as much as anyone, but posting pics of dead people is just stupid. I could just as easily post pics of Israeli victims of suicide bombings. These pics prove nothing except that there is a war going on.
If this is how you have to get people on your side then you're pathetic.
The fact is that people hear what's going on, but never see it.
This is why Israel has so much support in the United States, and why they continue to get billions of dollars of cash, and weapons.
Hate Is Art
29th November 2003, 08:27
i agree (* but if they just stopped blowing each other up and talked then who knows what will happen its just a shame cos i doubt that will ever happen.
ALL JEWISH SETTLERS SHOULD BE ELIMINATED AND SPARED NO MERCY ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE IDF AND THE ISREALI ESTABLISHMENT.
what a stupid comment if you think killing them is going solve anything you are horribly wrong!
Killing them will just make them angry and kill you, youll get angry and kill them etc etc etc
Whats the Point!
When you realise that the mindless killing of civilians, not just palestines but Israels as well, is wrong then come back and try and seek some peace!
Desert Fox
29th November 2003, 10:28
ALL JEWISH SETTLERS SHOULD BE ELIMINATED AND SPARED NO MERCY ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE IDF AND THE ISREALI ESTABLISHMENT.
Heil Hitler <_<
Bolshevika
29th November 2003, 15:37
Oh please, a Palestinian fighter is called a "terrorist" yet an Israeli fighter is called a "soldier".
Urban Rubble, your solution is idealist. There will sadly never be peace in Palestine unless the Jewish people who settled there pick up there stuff and give the Palestinians their land back (In all parts that were considered "Palestinian" during the British mandate). It's a pretty fair demand. How would you feel if someone kicked you out of your home, destroyed it, and built their own house on that land?
The colonizers were given choices in African countries to settle, where there weren't many people and the areas were isolated. However, they refused and picked Palestine, a religious hotspot. They brought this onto themselves.
Mr Rubble, you make me sick with everyone one of your liberal, hippy, pothead, skateboardingpunkrockingprepsterposer posts. I don't complain in general, do I?
Intifada
29th November 2003, 15:50
Heil Hitler
desert fox, dont you think what sharon and the israeli government is doing in palestine is reminiscent of what hitler and the nazis did to the jews?
The Children of the Revolution
29th November 2003, 16:29
desert fox, dont you think what sharon and the israeli government is doing in palestine is reminiscent of what hitler and the nazis did to the jews?
Very true. These pictures DO stir up emotions; if they didn't I would be shocked. Yes, the Palestinians commit atrocities too - but can you really blame them? Their land is being stolen, they are being economically and politically enslaved, AND THEY KEEP GETTING SHOT BY F****** ISRAELIS!!!
My position on this issue is clear - Israel should f*** off. They can have a state on the moon. Or failing that, Saturn. They have suffered intolerably in their History, but imposing the same kind of treatment on others is not the greatest route to peace and understanding.
The idealist solution is the best in theory. And I hope to God that one day it can be realised. But until that day I will continue to HATE Zionism, and the Jewish Government in Israel.
... they continue to get billions of dollars of cash, and weapons.
Yes. This is one of the main factors contributing to the conflict in the Middle East. The bloody Yanks. (again) I propose that the UN allocates twice the amount of funds given to the Jews, to the Palestinians. Then perhaps those same Jews will think twice before bulldozing another settlement, or bombing another refugee camp.
dopediana
29th November 2003, 17:06
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2003, 04:37 PM
Urban Rubble, your solution is idealist. There will sadly never be peace in Palestine unless the Jewish people who settled there pick up there stuff and give the Palestinians their land back (In all parts that were considered "Palestinian" during the British mandate). It's a pretty fair demand. How would you feel if someone kicked you out of your home, destroyed it, and built their own house on that land?
Mr Rubble, you make me sick with everyone one of your liberal, hippy, pothead, skateboardingpunkrockingprepsterposer posts. I don't complain in general, do I?
you call UR's solution idealistic? bullshit. your ideal solution would be to relocate all israeli settlers and kill the ones who don't want to relocate. now that's pretty fucked. and it would never happen. violence begets violence. you ought to know that. and UR is a hell of a lot sharper than you are. he's older, more educated, has more life experience than you do, and doesn't babble about the fucking revolution all the time.
what will help the arab cause is if more articles are published by palestinian journalists and distributed to read in america. it's all about retaking the media.
(*
The fact is that people hear what's going on, but never see it.
This is why Israel has so much support in the United States, and why they continue to get billions of dollars of cash, and weapons.
exactly. but too many dead babies gets wishy washy in people's eyes. we have to turn the focus.
suffianr
30th November 2003, 02:37
exactly. but too many dead babies gets wishy washy in people's eyes. we have to turn the focus.
To what? As I recall, live television feeds of skinny little Ethiopian children with bloated stomachs and their ensemble of pet flies caught the pity of a lot of people in the West. Why not the same approach for Palestine?
We get shown photos of mangled body parts and blood stains at driving school to condition us against drinking and driving, so why not an extension of that to persuade people that their indifference is killing off babies, and condemning generations of people to a life of squalor in concentration camps?
Desert Fox
30th November 2003, 10:56
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2003, 05:50 PM
Heil Hitler
desert fox, dont you think what sharon and the israeli government is doing in palestine is reminiscent of what hitler and the nazis did to the jews?
I wanted to reply on the person who wanted to exterminate all the jews, since hitler did the same, but you are right aswell
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