Socialism is NATIONALIST

[#FF0000]

can you give me an example of a socialist state that was socialist

[GPDP]

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[Rooster]

"Socialism is nationalist" doesn't make any sense. That's like saying "capitalism is nationalist".

[Ostrinski]

Let's start by you giving us an example of a socialist state, and we'll go from there.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

How so they use nationalism to keep "it" together? What do you define as nationalism?

[CommunityBeliever]

Can you give me an example of a socialist state that was not nationalist?

One example of a non-nationalist socialist state, is the first socialist state ever: the USSR. The USSR was formed with the goal of creating an international union of Soviet socialist republics, which is as far from nationalist as you can get. None of the socialist states which came after the USSR like China and Albania were nationalist.

[#FF0000]

All the failed one party communist states were socialist states.

mmmmm hrm

i dunno dogg i don't think state capitalism = socialism

[TheGodlessUtopian]

All the failed one party communist states were socialist states.

Facts, proof, back up, evidence, details.... please

[Ostrinski]

Damn we all flocked to this thread like flies to shit

[Ostrinski]

None of the failed one party communist states were socialist states.Fixed that for you.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Damn we all flocked to this thread like flies to shit

That we did, I can't even keep up with the responses... I guess this is some good shit!

[#FF0000]

Default answer from socialists. It was state capitalist.
Socialism = unattainable and impossibility

'i assert it thus it is true gubgubgubgugbubgubgugb'

okay nothin of value here guys lets go do something worthwhile instead of engaging here.

[NewLeft]

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Look at this bunny.. SO CUTE

[GoddessCleoLover]

Insufficient internationalism is a legitimate criticism of post-revolutionary states, but OTOH they fare pretty well compared to capitalist nations. Someone who opposes socialism like the OP belies his ignorance of history by raising the accusation of nationalism, since nationalism is a primary political tool used throughout the non "socialist" world. As a Luxemburgian IMO my posting history here has been quite critical of the "socialist" states, but this charge is either without merit or stems from excessive idealism. Also the phrase "enemies of the people" originated in the Soviet Union in the 1930s, but even there it went out of vogue in the 1950s. The OP is posting as if he either went to a Catholic school back in the 50s or is an acolyte of Rick Santorum, same difference.

On second thought, I am starting to think that NewLeft has the best approach to this guy.

[Ostrinski]

Socialism = unattainable and impossibilityI dunno, give us an inch and we'll take a mile

[#FF0000]

On second thought, I am starting to think that NewLeft has the best approach to this guy.

no fuck everyone that is my approach to troll y'all just biters

[NewLeft]

no fuck everyone that is my approach to troll y'all just biters
doggg socialism. we share ideas and humanity benefits!!

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I dunno, give us an inch and we'll take a mile

Says the defeatist; one mile isn't good enough, we need at least a dozen to be considered on Lenin's standards. ;)

[#FF0000]

Stop talking about your life.

greatest post on revleft holy shit what a burn

100% seriousposting here

[GoddessCleoLover]

#FF(the color red) ; I mentioned New Left because he was the first one I saw post an animal pic in this thread, if it was your idea originally more power to you.

Just saw your more recent post. SJA is a bit lacking when it comes to trolling, isn't he?

[#FF0000]

This is why I never return to my threads because of trolls ruining my thread. If you have nothing to contribute THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU POST! DONT WASTE MY TIME.

to be fair dogg your posts are awful. you make wild assertions with no argument whatsoever.

[CommunityBeliever]

Socialism = unattainable and impossibility

Not really. As I mentioned before the USSR was socialist and international until a gang of imperialists took over the country following WW2, so socialism is attainable and a practical possibility. Following this takeover of the USSR, China and Albania continued the anti-imperialist and anti-revisionist line.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

This is why I never return to my threads because of trolls ruining my thread. If you have nothing to contribute THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU POST! DONT WASTE MY TIME.

You might get some more serious responses if you actually debated instead of talked.

[Bostana]

Socialists use the term 'enemies of the people' to maintain 'order' and to keep a hegemonic STRANGLE on the public. They used this term against ethnic/religious organizations. This is how socialism comes to power. They use NATIONALISM and ideas from it. Can you give me an example of a socialist state that was not nationalist? NO, because all socialist states rely on nationalism to keep it together. You want to talk about anti-nationalism? Then you need to look to capitalism.

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[Veovis]

This thread is a hoot!

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[GoddessCleoLover]

The sad thing is that there are some spirited and wide-ranging debates about the nature of post-revolutionary societies and if SJA were to inform himself he would be able to start a thread that might ignite a serious debate. But that won't happen with the type of vague, over-generalized, and unsubstantiated charges that he chose to inaugurate this thread.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Queer Nationalist

lol...

[Ravachol]

Dead economy led USSR to imperalism for CAPITAL ACCUMULATION.


So it wasn't socialist? Make up your mind dawg.

[#FF0000]

TGU? Stalin?

Nope

[TheGodlessUtopian]

You are the worst kind of socialist. You fap to Marx and Stalin all day.

Define "fap."

..and to Stalin?! Maybe to Marx, but certainly not Stalin

[#FF0000]

look at you guys saying 'dogg' 'dawg' and every variation of canine now

shark ass motherfuckers

[Saviorself]

You are the worst kind of socialist. You fap to Marx and Stalin all day.

:thumbdown:

0/10

Troll harder.

[Bostana]

Bostana

You are the worst kind of socialist. You fap to Marx and Stalin all day.

A least I am not thinking of a man fapping too two older men.

[#FF0000]

A least I am not thinking of a man flapping too two older men.

flapping

[Bostana]

flapping

Big Difference

[GoddessCleoLover]

SJA; I saw what you posted to GodlessUtopian. If you have any integrity you will apologize. If not, I hope the ban hammer fall upon you, and normally I am reluctant to advocate banning people, but you have earned it, dude.

[Bostana]

Listen wiseass
USSR WAS SOCIALIST. THEY NEVER REACHED YOUR LEVEL OF SOCIALIST PURITY BECAUSE ITS UNATTAINABLE. IDEAS ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THEY ARE PRACTICED. FORCING SOCIALISM THROUGH FORCED COLLECTIVIZATION MADE SOCIALISM AN IDEALIST POSITION.

"Let's see what the Judges Think:"

:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

"Oh No, another three thumbs down in trolling for SocailJusticeAcvtivist.

[Saviorself]

Go home anarkiddie

I already am home; on my couch, drinking a Monster, watching Man on the Moon and laughing my ass off at this thread. Can't get much more at home than that. :cool:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

A least I am not thinking of a man fapping too two older men.

...as if there was something wrong with that...

[Bostana]

...as if there was something wrong with that...

Not like that,

it would be like a straight man fapping off to a 70 year old woman.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Still waiting for SJA to step up and apologize to TheGodlessUtopian. BTW I find the barbs you aim at me amusing. Bring 'em on.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Not like that,

it would be like a straight man fapping off to a 70 year old woman.

Ah, kinda weird... not my thing.lol

[Saviorself]

it would be like a straight man fapping off to a 70 year old woman.

Please refrain from peeking through my windows.


You reek of bourgeoisie TAKE HIM TO THE GULAG!

Damn, that hurts. I think I am going to cry now. For serious.

[Bostana]

Tell me what I said grandpa.



Nationalism = fuel for 'socialism'

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[GoddessCleoLover]

Grandpa here doesn't have the faintest idea what a "Monster" is.:D

[Bostana]

Please refrain from peeking through my windows.

:lol::lol:

[hatzel]

it would be like a straight man fapping off to a 70 year old woman.

Blatant ageism.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

look at you guys saying 'dogg' 'dawg' and every variation of canine now

shark ass motherfuckers
I was hoping everyone was addressing me

[Bostana]

Blatant ageism.

No it would be call Ageophobiac

[Ostrinski]

If you haven't checked out the new Andrew Bird record you ought to give it a spin. Best record so far this year imo
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[TheGodlessUtopian]

No it would be call Ageophobiac

No,Ageism is actually the correct term.

[Bostana]

No,Ageism is actually the correct term.

You Serious?

[TheGodlessUtopian]

You Serious?

Yep.

[NewLeft]

Someone ban him plz

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Apologize because he's queer. Haha

I suspect you will be banned for that.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Out little friend the OP is full of little gems tonight, but what bothers me the most is that he is quite uninformed about the radically varying schools of thought represented here on RevLeft, although that fact does render him ineffective as a troll which is a good thing. A recidivist fuck-up too from the most recent of his that I read.

[Bostana]

it would be like a straight man fapping off to a 70 year old woman.
Ageism



Apologize because he's queer. Haha
Homophobia

[Saviorself]

At least it isn't cubism. :laugh:

[Bostana]

Queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer

You are a queer. What do you want me to do about it.

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[TheGodlessUtopian]

Queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer

You are a queer. What do you want me to do about it.

hahaha... thank you for sealing your fate.

[Bostana]

hahaha... thank you for sealing your fate.

I already beet ya' to it man

[GoddessCleoLover]

With respect to Botsana's post on ageism and homophobia, the homophobia example is much more invidious. The former example pertains to the type of person to whom one is sexually attracted. To my mind that lacks the invidiousness of the example of homophobia cited.

[Saviorself]

Queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer

You are a queer. What do you want me to do about it.

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"You're so full of shit, why don't you admit, you don't have the balls to be a queer"

Also:

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See you later, fuckface.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Wow. You cant even call a queer a QUEER.

Not when you are a restricted heterosexual...

also...

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[GoddessCleoLover]

If he isn't a hateful troll then he might be in need of psychiatric help based upon the tenor of his last few posts.

Dude, I have denounced Stalin on RevLeft so many times that I have lost count. Just reinforces my point that you don't bother to read much on this board.

[Bostana]

Another Song for him and his fate
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[Bostana]

Homophobia? You want to see homophobia? All queers report to gulag for extermination. - Stalin

HOW DARE YOU,
You have drawn the line by mocking Comrade Stalin

You wan't to see real homophobia?

Here Ya'Go:

Queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer queer

You are a queer. What do you want me to do about it.

[Bostana]

Gays should support capitalism. Capitalism is why gay marriage can be legal.

No that's Democracy which is in Communism.

Capitalism doesn't include Democracy because in order to be a democracy the people have to rule in a Capitalist society the Bourgeoisie rule.

[GoddessCleoLover]

SocialJusticeActivist; Bollocks. Do you have ANY logic behind that assertion.

[Saviorself]

Capitalism is why gay marriage can be legal.

That makes so much sense I think my brain just exploded.:rolleyes:

[Bostana]

Fapping to Marx? Bullshit.

Bullshit? BULLSHIT?

You wan't to see Bullshit?

Look into this and you'll see Bullshit:D :
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[Saviorself]

Go fap to Bakunin fool.

I'd rather fap to yo mamma. Fat wominz make me sooooo hawt.

See, I can play this game too.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Over ninety posts already-amazing! Well

Well,I have to go an eat... be back later troll.

[hatzel]

Fapping to Marx? Bullshit.

If people who don't like other sexes are sexist...and those who don't like other races are racists...and those who don't like other ages are ageist...and you don't like other Marxes...doesn't that make you...

ACH MEIN WISSENSCHAFT!!! :scared:

[Saviorself]

Be right back sucking cock.

Clearly, you are just jealous that no one will let your mouth near their cock.

[Caj]

Be right back sucking cock.

How is this piece of shit not banned yet?!

[Bostana]

Be right back sucking cock.

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[NewLeft]

Be right back sucking cock.
I'm only going to say this once.. so come closer..

GET OUT!!!!!!!
:cursing: GET THE FUCK OUT NOW. :cursing:

[GoddessCleoLover]

I agree with Bostana in capturing that quote. Seems like SJA is trying to us what SJA is doing right now.

[Saviorself]

How is this piece of shit not banned yet?!

Good question. Though, the longer he stays here, the longer I can continue to spit vitriol at him. I imagine they are getting very pissed off and getting ever closer to smashing their face against the keyboard repeatedly. With any luck, this will lead to severe hemorrhaging and, ultimately, death. And that makes me ever so happy. :D

[Bostana]

He knows he is gonna get ban he is just trying to milk it as much as he can.
But that doesn't give him approval to say the shit that he has been saying.

[GoddessCleoLover]

He thinks that flaming the board will allow himself to out in a blaze of glory.

[Bostana]

Degenerate socialist morality requires ape-like behavior found only in black tribes in Africa. Socialism = reactionary

Dumbass Racist Mutha Fucka=SJA

[Bostana]

Let's trying kick him out with a bang!

[Saviorself]

Sucking another man's cock = dirty & homosexual

You know...often times, homophobia is brought upon by one's own inability to handle their own latent homosexual feelings. The sooner you come to accept yourself, the better you will feel. Hating yourself is neither healthy or productive.

[#FF0000]

ahahaha holy shit

[hatzel]

Heh.

[Ostrinski]

How he sees himself:
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How we see him:
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[Bostana]

Just like the Pastor at Westboro Baptist Church,

He is so anti-gay that he is really extremely super gay inside and is intent on hiding it and to do so come across as a gay hating fascist

[hatzel]

Teh interwebzz b srsly not good.

[Saviorself]

Black intelligence = subpar
Blame white people = socialist
Blame poverty = socialist
Reality = black people create poverty
Soclialism =/= logical

Trolling is an art that requires subtlety, finesse and talent. You possess none of these things. You see, everyone realizes that you are just saying this stuff to make people mad. And although these may very well be your actual feelings, you are only showing your own weakness and insecurities. If anything, people probably feel sorry for you. I can only imagine what went wrong in your life to mess you up so bad. Did mommy and daddy not love you enough or something?

[NewLeft]

Just like the Pastor at Westboro Baptist Church,

He is so anti-gay that he is really extremely super gay inside and is intent on hiding it and to do so come across as a gay hating fascist
"Extremely super gay inside.."? What do you mean?

[roy]

This guy was funnier when he just made up threads that indicated he had no idea what he was talking about and never replied. Now he's just trolling desperately.

[NewLeft]

Trolling is an art that requires subtlety, finesse and talent. You possess none of these things. You see, everyone realizes that you are just saying this stuff to make people mad. And although these may very well be your actual feelings, you are only showing your own weakness and insecurities. If anything, people probably feel sorry for you. I can only matter what went wrong in your life to mess you up so bad. Did mommy and daddy not love you enough or something?
Well, that's not to stigmatize. In that case, this troll needs psychotherapy.

[#FF0000]

Trolling is *a art

there you go

[Caj]

Black intelligence = subpar

I don't think you're in a position to refer to anybody's intelligence as subpar. . . .

[hatzel]

people probably feel sorry for you

Nah I'm cool

[Bostana]

I don't think you're in a position to refer to anybody's intelligence as subpar. . . .

:lol::lol::lol:

That's a good one.

[Bostana]

I have an idea let's troll on his own trolling

[Saviorself]

there you go

Yeah, I fucked that one up. Oh well.

[Ostrinski]

Statistics prove that blacks are the stupidists.the irony

[GoddessCleoLover]

Stupidists, eh. Learn to spell much?

[hatzel]

Learn to spell much?

M-u-c-h.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Bollocks. That wasn't a typo.

[Caj]

Statistics prove that blacks are the stupidists.

This may be the stupidest thing I've ever read.

[Saviorself]

Statistics prove that blacks are the stupidists.

37% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


the irony


Stupidists, eh. Learn to spell much?

People....srsly?

[hatzel]

Stupidism. Stupidist. Stupidists.

[AntifaArnhem]

Statistics prove that blacks are the stupidists.

God you're dumb... My five year old nephew could make you some nice statistics with his creons, but that doens't make it true.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Stupidism. Stupidist. Stupidists.
International Stupidmen's Association?

[Bostana]

Statistics prove that blacks are the stupidists.

Probably because rich whites monopolize them and put them in ghettos restricting them from a good education turning them into a life of crime to pay for their family.

Even if the enter a life of crime but police still arrest them anyway. I remember reading somewhere that most of the Blacks cops arrest are innocent.

[Caj]

Stupidism. Stupidist. Stupidists.

Just what we need -- another tendency.

[l'Enfermé]

The USSR only became imperialist when an imperialist gang took over the country after WW2. Before WW2 it was the USSR that was the victim of imperialism, for example, the Nazis attacked the USSR with the biggest invasion force ever assembled.
So when the USSR attacked Poland, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia...they weren't victims of imperialism, but when Germany attacked the USSR, the USSR was a victim of imperialism? Some consistency, please!

[hatzel]

So when the USSR attacked Poland, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia...they weren't victims of imperialism, but when Germany attacked the USSR, the USSR was a victim of imperialism? Some consistency, please!

This post is inconsistent with the thread. Hippokritt.

[NewLeft]

Victory! He is banned. Rejoice comrades!

[Saviorself]

Victory! He is banned. Rejoice comrades!

Good! I was growing tired of that interloper usurping my position of resident bigot asshole. ;)

[NewLeft]

Good! I was growing tired of that interloper usurping my position of resident bigot asshole. ;)
Stop winking. :laugh: ;)

[Bostana]

Listen I know we have already done the ceremony of being ban but technically he wasn't banned yet

Soooo:hMenB9Ywh2Q

[Saviorself]

stop winking.

you're not the boss of me!

[NewLeft]

you're not the boss of me!

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I remember that show. :cool:

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Z_D-pbtN0r4

I remember that show. :cool:
It's all on Netflix instant stream now

[Saviorself]

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of this:

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I would have preferred "You're Not the Boss of Me (I'm the Boss of Me)" But
"(Kick It)" was the only one I could find on YouTube.

[NewLeft]

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of this:

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I would have preferred "You're Not the Boss of Me (I'm the Boss of Me)" But
"(Kick It)" was the only one I could find on YouTube.
I haven't listen to the Vandals in a very.. long time. :thumbup1:

[Saviorself]

I used to listen to them all the time but I got my ex into them so whenever I listen to them it reminds me of her and I get all mopey. Still an awesome band though.