Lazy Greeks

[Delenda Carthago]

http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/employment/average-annual-working-time_20752342-table8

[Igor]

Thanks for the link. I'm getting so sick of people here ranting all the time about the "lazy Greeks" we have to fund so I'll surely give them this link. Could potentially help them understand that the fault isn't in other workers, after all.

[Delenda Carthago]

Thanks for the link. I'm getting so sick of people here ranting all the time about the "lazy Greeks" we have to fund so I'll surely give them this link. Could potentially help them understand that the fault isn't in other workers, after all.

You do that, thank you very much.

[pax et aequalitas]

Oh would you look at that, my country has the lowest hours per worker and yes here too they complain about the Greeks being lazy.

[Grenzer]

Damn you Ronald Reagan!

I am so sick of hearing the neo-liberal myth of every form of even social-democratic policy being for those who are "lazy." Let's see what they think when they have no job, default on their mortgage, and can't put food on the table. Somehow, I think the tune might change..

It still seems like too many of the Greek workers aren't aware that there is an alternative to capitalism. Looks like they are in for some hard times ahead.

[Delenda Carthago]

Damn you Ronald Reagan!

I am so sick of hearing the neo-liberal myth of every form of even social-democratic policy being for those who are "lazy." Let's see what they think when they have no job, default on their mortgage, and can't put food on the table. Somehow, I think the tune might change..

It still seems like too many of the Greek workers aren't aware that there is an alternative to capitalism. Looks like they are in for some hard times ahead.
I think if you want to point fingures on someone for the ideologisation of labour, that should have to be Protestantism.

[NorwegianCommunist]

Is this hours worked each year combined?

[pastradamus]

Propaganda....

There's only one word for it. Over here in Ireland we are constantly hearing crap about the Greeks "not paying taxes" and "not wanting to deal with their problems" etc etc

They constantly give us this crap in the right-wing media ie the "Irish" Sun and the "Irish" Daily Star and the "Irish" Daily Mirror.

Fortunetly the good news is that the Vast,vast majority of people here dont believe a word they say and understand exactly what the Greeks are going through at the moment because we are going through the IMF and ECB crap as well. Instead of calling it a bail out they should call it "The Jobs Embargo" or "The poor bailing out the Rich".

To hell with the ECB and the IMF, the right and the propagandists.

Long live Greece! You WILL find a way out of this crisis and you will stop them from having the recession that they created.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Wasn't Ireland recently up shit's creek too, you'd think they'd be sympathetic to Greece's plight...

[pastradamus]

Is this hours worked each year combined?

Yes, divide by 52 to get the total weekly hours.

So the average Greek puts in a 40 hour week.

Compare that to other developed states and just a few at hand:

32 aus
33 can
32 IRE
27 Ger
26 NED
29 FRA
31 UK
34 USA
27 NOR

Can you imagine how large the strikes and riots would be if they actually had the time to attend?!?

[pastradamus]

Wasn't Ireland recently up shit's creek too, you'd think they'd be sympathetic to Greece's plight...

The left in Ireland is EXTREMELY sympathetic to them. But we are in the IMF ECB's pockets these days and they call the shots. The Right-wing press has been on this one like flies on shit.

It interesting to note that all these sources are actually owned by English companies. The Irish-owned press never call greeks lazy.

They seem to have an English-sounding vibe to them a lot of the time.
Just one off-topic example, I remember that football game when Thierry Henry handled that ball when Ireland played France. It stopped us getting to the World Cup and the country was extremely bitter towards Henry after that. The Sun Newspaper took things further however by publishing a load of anti-French stuff in the sports section (both in the English and Irish version of the Newspaper) referring to the French as "the frogs" when not a single Irish person I met was in any way bitter towards the French but rather towards Henry.

Another Organ piece is the "Irish" Daily mail. An awful publication. They have a guy writing for them called Waghorn. He's not Irish, dosent live here, dosent work here, but nevertheless spouts his right-wing opinions about everything and gets published here despite not having an iota about our affairs. Thankfully nobody cares who he is and the Daily mail only enjoys a small share of tabloid share in this country.

[Delenda Carthago]

We have to create tubes that when we find that kind of information it will be spread as much as we can, with the most ammount of organisation we can. Europe wide if possible.

[La Guaneña]

Here in Brazil we face 44 hour weeks, solidarity for the greek comrades!

[Kornilios Sunshine]

LOL I was expecting to see this!

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/2681884_700b.jpg

[Delenda Carthago]

Godamn this is one LONG ass jpeg!

[Kornilios Sunshine]

Godamn this is one LONG ass jpeg!
Pou 'sai esy re? Exoume na se doyme ap ton prwto pagkosmio!

[Luís Henrique]

http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/employment/average-annual-working-time_20752342-table8

There are two reasons this shouldn't really matter.

First, you can work more hours with actually doing less work, because of either lower productivity or lower intensity of labour.

Second, and much more importantly, there is unemployment in Greece, and this is actually the main feature of the present crisis. And if there is unemployment, it means there is not as much work to be done as people are willing to do.

How are people supposed to work more if their work is systematically rebuffed by employers?

Luís Henrique

[Qavvik]

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[Sea]

Damn you Ronald Reagan!

I am so sick of hearing the neo-liberal myth of every form of even social-democratic policy being for those who are "lazy." Let's see what they think when they have no job, default on their mortgage, and can't put food on the table. Somehow, I think the tune might change..

It still seems like too many of the Greek workers aren't aware that there is an alternative to capitalism. Looks like they are in for some hard times ahead.
This is hardly specific to the Greek.

[human strike]

But they're kind of right. Greek workers are too lazy, as are workers everywhere. Let's not forget the cause of capitalist crisis - us - our failure to subordinate ourselves to capital enough, our failure to work hard enough. We are the crisis. When they say "You are too lazy," we should say "Yes! And proud!"

Holloway explains: http://blip.tv/deep-dish-tv/john-holloway-speaks-at-left-forum-2012-6053845