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ed miliband
8th March 2012, 17:44
so everyone is always trying to find politically correct (in the original sense of the term) bands that they can listen to without feeling guilt - what about good bands that are right-wing? not necessarily fascist or nazi but conservative or right-libertarian or whatever?

Per Levy
8th March 2012, 18:15
isnt lemmy from motörhead a libertarian? good band though.

burzum great black metal, well not really right wing but the only member is a nazi and a racist and a murderer.


so everyone is always trying to find politically correct (in the original sense of the term) bands that they can listen to without feeling guilt

if you grow up wit extreme metal you wont have that problem^^

#FF0000
8th March 2012, 18:24
Rush is big on ayn rand iirc which makes a lot of sense since they are Rush.

Prometeo liberado
9th March 2012, 00:37
Ted Nugent.
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4880676756456356&id=69fcea931db8b6a0fabdae37dd3e174f&index=newexp&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.examiner.com%2fimages%2fblog% 2fEXID722%2fimages%2fted_nugent_1.jpg

Ostrinski
9th March 2012, 01:04
Rush, Skynyrd

Искра
9th March 2012, 01:08
sledgehammer, strong style, cannons, ikazuchi, ouka, bad vultures, burzum, skrewdriver (only boots and bracers/voice of britain), kill baby, kill... and I could go for ever

also BMH hooked me up on Krasny Bor 1943

NewLeft
9th March 2012, 01:11
Uh, I know I said I don't care about politics in music in another thread and I lied. I wouldn't pay for openly right wing music, I would only pirate it. With that said, I can't think of any right wing music I listen to.

Искра
9th March 2012, 01:15
fucking hell half of Ramones were right wing and pretty much every fucking band from Japan (except some crusties... but they fucking suck because they don't follow the way of samurai)

gorillafuck
9th March 2012, 01:21
fucking hell half of Ramones were right wing and pretty much every fucking band from Japan (except some crusties... but they fucking suck because they don't follow the way of samurai)I thought only Johnny was a conservative? and Joey was a liberal and Dee Dee was apolitical (dunno about the drummers)

Искра
9th March 2012, 01:27
Yeah, Johnny was right winger (he and Joey are only original members, so that's why "half"). I also don't know about drummers. A lot of rock musicans are actually pretty conservative...

At least Motley Crue is an anarchist band:
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Sasha
9th March 2012, 01:40
Biohazard are racist homophobes and Dave mustain (megadeth/ex-metalica) endorsed Rick santorum.
Hatebreed are also quite homophobic and so are several other brocore bands... over in the hip-hop genre jedimindtricks made some lyrics white bands would be burned at the stake for...

Per Levy
9th March 2012, 01:42
oh wait i just remember that the misfits are conservative punks, their old stuff with danzig is pretty good cant say anything about their new stuff though.

Lobotomy
9th March 2012, 01:44
I've seen Gene Simmons on Fox news.

gorillafuck
9th March 2012, 01:51
Yeah, Johnny was right winger (he and Joey are only original members, so that's why "half"). I also don't know about drummers. A lot of rock musicans are actually pretty conservative...Dee Dee was a founding member. so 1/3.

the misfits, funnily enough, were/are mostly conservative christian with the exception of Danzig. Jerry Only and Doyle even thought that Samhain (Danzigs band after the misfits) promoted evil and satanism. Michael Graves who sang when the misfits reformed was in charge of the whole conservativepunk thing. and Bobby Steele who was in the misfits for a little while is a conservative christian too.

I think Danzig is a libertarian.

Tovarisch
9th March 2012, 03:06
I like Bob Marley, even though his biggest hit "Don't Worry" is a right wing song

Dragonaut
9th March 2012, 03:25
I like Bob Marley, even though his biggest hit "Don't Worry" is a right wing song

In what way?

Pretty Flaco
9th March 2012, 03:33
2pac

DDR
9th March 2012, 04:28
also BMH hooked me up on Krasny Bor 1943

Seriously krasny bor????? I hope it isn't the spanish ones, because even they are fascist their music it is very very shitty.

zoot_allures
10th March 2012, 23:45
As my username suggests, my favourite musician is Frank Zappa, and he was something of a right-wing libertarian.

Tiny Tim and Igor Stravinsky are also favoruites of mine, and they were deeply conservative.

zoot_allures
10th March 2012, 23:49
I like Bob Marley, even though his biggest hit "Don't Worry" is a right wing song
Bob Marley had nothing to do with that song. It was released about 7 years after he died.

Also, I disagree that it's right-wing. I don't think it's political in any way.

bricolage
10th March 2012, 23:58
most dancehall

Delenda Carthago
10th March 2012, 23:59
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Invader Zim
11th March 2012, 00:31
Yeah, Johnny was right winger (he and Joey are only original members, so that's why "half"). I also don't know about drummers. A lot of rock musicans are actually pretty conservative...

At least Motley Crue is an anarchist band:
WZObgW_xEu0


Why, because they covered a song by a manufactored punk band that had members famously pictured wearing swastikas and whose idea of anarchism was synonamous with meaningless violence, which is apparent rad man.?

Dr Doom
11th March 2012, 00:31
wasnt Bowie a bit right wing? i dunno. also, never mind their shit politics, Rush are just so painful to listen to. really bad.

Lanky Wanker
11th March 2012, 00:58
isnt lemmy from motörhead a libertarian? good band though.

burzum great black metal, well not really right wing but the only member is a nazi and a racist and a murderer.


I don't think Varg being a murderer is really the problem, more the nationalist side of him. Maybe it's because I've only heard it from him, but it sounded like a pretty good choice killing Euronymous. He says the only 2 things that separate him from the Nazis are that he's not a nationalist and he's not a socialist... he believes in racial segregation though and loves his culture more than his own penis so I don't understand what he means when he says he's not a nationalist. But anyways, I listen to right wing black metal without any guilt because they generally don't put it into their lyrics unless it's specifically NSBM.

Искра
11th March 2012, 01:00
Why, because they covered a song by a manufactored punk band that had members famously pictured wearing swastikas and whose idea of anarchism was synonamous with meaningless violence, which is apparent rad man.?
Ever heard of sarcasm?

Искра
11th March 2012, 01:01
Why would anyone feel bad for listening music?

All Jamaican reggae is right wing or sexist or something like that

Ostrinski
11th March 2012, 01:02
wasnt Bowie a bit right wing? i dunno. also, never mind their shit politics, Rush are just so painful to listen to. really bad.Rush owns, actually.

Lanky Wanker
11th March 2012, 01:04
Yeah, Johnny was right winger (he and Joey are only original members, so that's why "half"). I also don't know about drummers. A lot of rock musicans are actually pretty conservative...

At least Motley Crue is an anarchist band:
WZObgW_xEu0

People really need to stop covering the old classics... and by 'people' I mean metal/almost-metal bands. :D

Искра
11th March 2012, 01:10
Motley Crue is glam metal... and glam metal fucking rules. Motley Crue is like a bunch of idiots from jail who rule more than some thrash metal wanna be tought dicks....

Motley Crue for life!

Dr Doom
11th March 2012, 01:24
Rush owns, actually.

man i was always under the impression that they were a cheesy canadian prog band that writes overblown, painfully pretentious lyrics (sometimes with painfully obvious tree analogies lol) and they go on these extended, masturbatory solos with snooze-inducing regularity.

jus kiddin bruh. different strokes for different folks right lol.

gorillafuck
11th March 2012, 05:47
Why, because they covered a song by a manufactored punk band that had members famously pictured wearing swastikas and whose idea of anarchism was synonamous with meaningless violence, which is apparent rad man.?Ron Asheton from the Stooges dressed in an SS outfit, Sioux Siouxsie wore swastikas, Dee Dee Ramone wore a swastika armband, and the Dead Boys sometimes dressed like nazis

ed miliband
12th March 2012, 23:22
2pac

'pac read 2pac and feminist lit shit listen to 'keep ya head up' (probably one of the best 'protest' songs ever)


also i explicitly said no nazi/fash bands and that's what most people have posted

Sasha
12th March 2012, 23:39
Eric clapton endorsed enoch Powell after his rivers of blood speech.

Dr Doom
12th March 2012, 23:45
james brown campaigned for nixon, was friends with reagan and supported the vietnam war.

Rooster
12th March 2012, 23:57
Nearly every prog rock band is right wing.

Ostrinski
13th March 2012, 00:08
Nearly every prog rock band is right wing.Examples?

Rooster
13th March 2012, 00:12
Examples?

Yes?

Danielle Ni Dhighe
13th March 2012, 00:31
the misfits, funnily enough, were/are mostly conservative christian with the exception of Danzig.
I love the Misfits, old and new. It helps that their songs generally don't address politics directly, and they keep that to personal statements in interviews.


Jerry Only and Doyle even thought that Samhain (Danzigs band after the misfits) promoted evil and satanism.
I remember that. Jerry said something about Danzig leading people to darkness and he wanted to lead them to the light. Jerry and Doyle formed Kryst the Conqueror, a Christian metal band, after the Misfits broke up the first time. But it's funny that Jerry keeps performing songs like "Last Caress" live.


Michael Graves who sang when the misfits reformed was in charge of the whole conservativepunk thing.
In a recent interview posted on YouTube, Graves seems to be more of a libertarian these days.

bots
13th March 2012, 00:45
fucking hell half of Ramones were right wing and pretty much every fucking band from Japan (except some crusties... but they fucking suck because they don't follow the way of samurai)

Which japanese bands are you talking about?

gorillafuck
13th March 2012, 00:46
I remember that. Jerry said something about Danzig leading people to darkness and he wanted to lead them to the light. Jerry and Doyle formed Kryst the Conqueror, a Christian metal band, after the Misfits broke up the first time. But it's funny that Jerry keeps performing songs like "Last Caress" live.Samhain is a bit of a step above the Misfits in how "evil" they sounded, but it's still strange that he would be fine playing in the misfits but not be okay with Samhain.

Doflamingo
14th March 2012, 04:28
Metallica is a conservative band... Doesn't really stop me from liking their first few albums though.

gorillafuck
14th March 2012, 19:00
metallica are a conservative band? since when?

Искра
14th March 2012, 19:12
Which japanese bands are you talking about?Pop-punk, punk, Oi!, SSS, rock, metal etc.

Take this shit for example...
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In one Japanese soap opera they have played their songs against Chinese...

And before they have sold out to mainstream (yes these guys play on MTV) they have looked like this:
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Per Levy
14th March 2012, 19:37
I don't think Varg being a murderer is really the problem, more the nationalist side of him.

well it matters for me since mayhem is one of my all time favourite bands and it would have been interesting to see where mayhem would have gone if he would still be alive(and if the songs would be better with him, even though i like grand declaration fo war).


also i explicitly said no nazi/fash bands and that's what most people have posted

true that, to be fair though fash bands are much easier to spot then conservative or libertarian bands. heck i didnt knew that lemmy was a libertarian until last year.

anyway, type o negative, if i remember right peter steele was pretty conservative and everything, again good band though.

Deicide
14th March 2012, 19:45
It's a shame Dave Mustaine is a religious nut.

pluckedflowers
14th March 2012, 19:51
As far as I'm concerned, all artists without explicit, revolutionary leanings are at risk of reactionary asshattery. Just look at how the sixties generation turned out

Fucking Bob Dylan, man. I loved him before I learned of this shit (http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/neighborhood-bully). Then there's Neil Young who pulled red, white and blue pom poms out of his ass on 9/11 (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/neilyoung/letsroll.html).

Doflamingo
14th March 2012, 21:31
metallica are a conservative band? since when?

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2009/04/rightwinger-american-patriot-james.html

Danielle Ni Dhighe
15th March 2012, 00:45
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2009/04/rightwinger-american-patriot-james.html
Does that make the entire band conservative because Hetfield is a libertarian? Anyone know how other band members, past and present, have identified?

Os Cangaceiros
15th March 2012, 01:01
I think that Fear may be a right-wing punk group, although they seemed to be more of a tongue-in-cheek nihilist band then anything else. They attracted a lot of right-wing and jock shitbirds, though, who attended their concerts. I guess their drummer or guitar player or someone in the band got pissed at their asshole fans and spit on one of them. They returned the favor by beating him beyond recognition. :rolleyes: So punk rawk.

Anyway, I love "The Record". It's the ultimate music for decline and decay.

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gorillafuck
15th March 2012, 01:09
people said The FU's were a right wing band. dunno if it's true.

Искра
15th March 2012, 01:12
people said The FU's were a right wing band. dunno if it's true.They say same for Boston 80's straight edge scene...
Well, we know that NYC Agnostic Front and other shitheads were/are wigh wingers...

Ostrinski
15th March 2012, 01:14
Man, Metallica still has some of the best anti-war songs.

gorillafuck
15th March 2012, 01:19
Bad Brains were batshit homophobic but also vaguely leftist.

Os Cangaceiros
15th March 2012, 01:24
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*sniff* makes me proud to be 'murikan

gorillafuck
15th March 2012, 16:55
that's a song that's doomed to never have a music video.

Искра
15th March 2012, 17:08
Bad Brains were batshit homophobic but also vaguely leftist.
The aren't leftist. They are black nationalists...

But they are the best US HC band... after Siege (which is also patriot shit)...

Brosip Tito
15th March 2012, 17:23
Avenged Sevenfold are, from what I hear, conservative.

Althusser
15th March 2012, 17:42
2pac
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Althusser
15th March 2012, 17:58
For me it's gotten to the point where if the artist or band in question isn't leftist, I just can't listen to them. There's this atheist rapper named Greydon Square. He grew up in a group home in a shit part of California. He became a US soldier a few months before 9/11, so he's an Iraq veteren. When he got home he studied physics in college. His (I wouldn't say "gimmick" but) main lyrial point is that he's an atheist. I had heard many of his songs on the internet, so I asked him on twitter what his politcal standings were. He responded with, "I'm so left-wing, Barney Frank would call me a socialist." I then proceeded to finalize my purchase on bandcamp.

Ostrinski
15th March 2012, 18:19
Greydon is boring

gorillafuck
15th March 2012, 19:26
2pacAFrIl2yPRSo

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/2pac/pantherpower.html

Doflamingo
23rd March 2012, 05:25
Avenged Sevenfold are, from what I hear, conservative.

I've heard that too. Makes sense considering how badly they sold out to make a profit.

Ostrinski
23rd March 2012, 05:34
Avenged Sevenfold is ass. And yes they are conservative.
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Proukunin
23rd March 2012, 06:32
Are Pantera politically conservative? I know that some people thought they had racist lyrics, but when I read some like 'No Good' it seems like they are anti-racist and against radical hate groups. I know that a lot of skinheads went to their shows..but the band never supported any of it to what i know.

Anyway Dimebag is one of my idols for guitar's sake.

gorillafuck
23rd March 2012, 11:49
Are Pantera politically conservative? I know that some people thought they had racist lyrics, but when I read some like 'No Good' it seems like they are anti-racist and against radical hate groups. I know that a lot of skinheads went to their shows..but the band never supported any of it to what i know.

Anyway Dimebag is one of my idols for guitar's sake.cxQk3DC3gL0

Ravachol
23rd March 2012, 12:11
Well, within the neofolk and martial ambient spectrum there's a lot of bands that are explicitly fascist but some are only border on it. (Don't mind the youtube videos, these are chosen by their fanbase which is largely closet fascists and history nerds).

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On the other hand there are bands like Rome who are largely left-wing:

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#FF0000
23rd March 2012, 15:30
cxQk3DC3gL0

and a week later he released some statement (i remember it being a video for some reason but idk) and talked about how two black women approached him later about the dumb speech and made him realize that he was a total and complete shithead about it.

idk i have to give him credit for that.

ParaRevolutionary
23rd March 2012, 15:49
Cock Sparrer.

Sasha
23rd March 2012, 18:24
Cock Sparrer.

Source? As far I know they never took a political position at all (which fair enough arguably could be a political position in itself for a 80's skinhead band) beyond calling both the NF and the various middle class trots and stalino's a threat to the working-class... which I can certainly agree with.... "suburban rebels" and "watch your back" are against the middle and upper class that undeserved claim to speak for the working-class not necessarily against working-class revolution.

ParaRevolutionary
23rd March 2012, 18:46
Source? As far I know they never took a political position at all (which fair enough arguably could be a political position in itself for a 80's skinhead band) beyond calling both the NF and the various middle class trots and stalino's a threat to the working-class... which I can certainly agree with.... "suburban rebels" and "watch your back" are against the middle and upper class that undeserved claim to speak for the working-class not necessarily against working-class revolution.

"Get a Rope" had suspect lyrics, not to mention that theyre classified as an "Oi!" band.

Sasha
23rd March 2012, 18:54
not to mention that theyre classified as an "Oi!" band.

So are the oppressed, angelic upstarts, early oi-polloi and hundreds of other explicitly leftist bands. Don't run your mouth if you have no clue what your talking about..

And get a rope is about hanging the queen and the political establishment, surely we can support that...
It's at least a heck of a lot better than condemned 84's "we need a stronger government, we want capital punishment"

gorillafuck
23rd March 2012, 19:06
Source? As far I know they never took a political position at all (which fair enough arguably could be a political position in itself for a 80's skinhead band) beyond calling both the NF and the various middle class trots and stalino's a threat to the working-class... which I can certainly agree with.... "suburban rebels" and "watch your back" are against the middle and upper class that undeserved claim to speak for the working-class not necessarily against working-class revolution.http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/cocksparrer/englandbelongstome.html sounds kinda right wing.

and based on the lyrics of watch your back it is definitely not directed just at "various middle class trots and stalinos"


and a week later he released some statement (i remember it being a video for some reason but idk) and talked about how two black women approached him later about the dumb speech and made him realize that he was a total and complete shithead about it.

idk i have to give him credit for that.that's respectable.

pastradamus
23rd March 2012, 19:56
Has anyone mentioned those weirdo's Prussian Blue yet? Creepy.

Proukunin
23rd March 2012, 20:09
The rest of Pantera had a lot of problems with Phil towards the end because of his heroin use, which led them to break up and Vinnie on drums stop talking to him..he was probably being a drugged rant.

Sasha
23rd March 2012, 20:26
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/cocksparrer/englandbelongstome.html sounds kinda right wing.

I'm not saying they are not nationalists but from my conversations with them I always had the impression they where old school labourites. Don't know if you ever heard the song "england" by the angelic upstarts but there is such a thing as (misguided) pride without prejudice..

Welshy
23rd March 2012, 20:36
Has anyone mentioned those weirdo's Prussian Blue yet? Creepy.

They started smoking weed and are apparently not nazi's anymore.

RedHal
23rd March 2012, 22:18
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2009/04/rightwinger-american-patriot-james.html

I would be surprised if the drummer is anything but a rightwinger. I remember him raging about file sharing.

isn't most country music conserative rightwing?

bcbm
23rd March 2012, 22:42
Why, because they covered a song by a manufactored punk band that had members famously pictured wearing swastikas and whose idea of anarchism was synonamous with meaningless violence, which is apparent rad man.?

the sex pistols were a situationist provocation


i am surprised nobod has mentioned agnostic front yet

Ted Lawrence
24th March 2012, 01:10
and a week later he released some statement (i remember it being a video for some reason but idk) and talked about how two black women approached him later about the dumb speech and made him realize that he was a total and complete shithead about it.

idk i have to give him credit for that.

I can't post the video being new and all but there is also footage of Pantera in Korea and Phil does kind of a nazi salute and the screams white power! Search Phil Anselmo White Power or And Power.

gorillafuck
24th March 2012, 13:16
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that?

Ted Lawrence
24th March 2012, 13:56
Yes, that's it. Thanks. There are a lot of excuses made for him by Pantera fans all over the internet stating "Well, he drinks a lot and says dumb stuff", and I do understand that people say dumb stuff while drunk, but that's definitely no excuse for racism or "white power" comments.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
24th March 2012, 22:23
Why are peopl saying that oi! bands are right-wing punk?

Weren't the 4-skins Oi! Punk?

Lanky Wanker
25th March 2012, 01:59
Why are peopl saying that oi! bands are right-wing punk?

Weren't the 4-skins Oi! Punk?

Because Nazis love stealing everything good, especially if it's made by blacks or leftists, and turning it into their own stupid fad.

Искра
25th March 2012, 02:03
But tbh 4-Skins are right wing. Except the bass player... he was/is in Labour party.

Lanky Wanker
25th March 2012, 02:35
But tbh 4-Skins are right wing. Except the bass player... he was/is in Labour party.

I know an old guitarist of theirs joined Skrewdriver, but I didn't think they were right wing. I can't see a right wing band keeping a labour party bassist.

Искра
25th March 2012, 02:46
Well their singer is pro-war in Iraq for example... Right wing is not just Nazi... but conservative etc. Why did they have labour party bassist? Because in the end he was only one of original line up and they didn't have political songs (except maybe "one law for them").

ParaRevolutionary
25th March 2012, 02:53
So are the oppressed, angelic upstarts, early oi-polloi and hundreds of other explicitly leftist bands. Don't run your mouth if you have no clue what your talking about..

And get a rope is about hanging the queen and the political establishment, surely we can support that...
It's at least a heck of a lot better than condemned 84's "we need a stronger government, we want capital punishment"

Theres that quintessential RevLeft fury over something small. Im merely referencing what ive read, i dont bother all that much about whether the bands i listen to are right wing or not, theyre all making millions off of easy work.

Lanky Wanker
25th March 2012, 02:59
Well their singer is pro-war in Iraq for example... Right wing is not just Nazi... but conservative etc. Why did they have labour party bassist? Because in the end he was only one of original line up and they didn't have political songs (except maybe "one law for them").

I know, but even conservative skinheads... that sounds like something out of a comedy sketch. A lot of people have friends with fairly different political views on the opposite side of the political spectrum, so I know what you mean though.

gorillafuck
25th March 2012, 03:07
every hardline band in existence

Искра
25th March 2012, 03:13
every hardline band in existence
Fuck... I love those! Vegan Reich!

gorillafuck
25th March 2012, 03:15
good example of an unusual right wing band, haha.

ParaRevolutionary
25th March 2012, 03:30
I once heard that Guns n Roses was a racist band. I know Slash is bi racial so that claim doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

gorillafuck
25th March 2012, 03:34
I once heard that Guns n Roses was a racist band. I know Slash is bi racial so that claim doesnt make a whole lot of sense.s9B7hgSztA0

this is the source of that claim.

Sir Comradical
25th March 2012, 04:19
There's this corny ass rapper called Eshy. He's into zionism n shit.

Renegade Saint
25th March 2012, 05:38
Rush is big on ayn rand iirc which makes a lot of sense since they are Rush.
Neil Peart has said that their early interest in Ayn Rand was short-lived and way overblown (there's such a thing as youthful indiscretions). He described himself as a Left-Libertarian.

Ostrinski
25th March 2012, 05:42
Peart is basically a liberal now. I think I liked him better as a right libertarian.

Ostrinski
25th March 2012, 05:44
I once heard that Guns n Roses was a racist band. I know Slash is bi racial so that claim doesnt make a whole lot of sense.That would make sense since Axl Rose is the biggest tool in the history of toolry.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
25th March 2012, 07:17
Were the 4skins right wing from the start? Surely not? ACAB?

Wouldn't upset me that much, they were always fucking shite.

Althusser
25th March 2012, 07:25
I once heard that Guns n Roses was a racist band. I know Slash is bi racial so that claim doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

Axl is a racist and homophobe.

ParaRevolutionary
25th March 2012, 13:29
Axl being a racist, all the while having a guitarist thats of color, makes no sense. I also remember seeing him with corn rows, thats definately not very white.

Sasha
25th March 2012, 13:36
Axl being a racist, all the while having a guitarist thats of color, makes no sense. I also remember seeing him with corn rows, thats definately not very white.



The band—and Rose in particular—were accused of promoting racist and homophobic attitudes with the song "One in a Million (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_in_a_Million_%28Guns_N%27_Roses_song%29)",[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#cite_note-Goldstein89-28) in which Rose warns "niggers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger)" to "get out of my way" and complains about "faggots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_%28slang%29)" who "spread some fucking disease." During the controversy, Rose defended his use of the racial slur by claiming that "it's a word to describe somebody that is basically a pain in your life, a problem. The word nigger doesn't necessarily mean black."[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#cite_note-James89-12) In 1992, however, he conceded that he had used the word as an insult towards black people, stating, "I was pissed off about some black people that were trying to rob me. I wanted to insult those particular black people. I didn't want to support racism."[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#cite_note-Neely92-4) In response to the allegations of homophobia, Rose stated that he considered himself "pro-heterosexual" and blamed this attitude on "bad experiences" with gay men, citing an attempted rape in his late teens and the alleged molestation by his biological father.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#cite_note-Neely92-4)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#cite_note-Sischy92-10)[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#cite_note-James89-12) The controversy led to Guns N' Roses being dropped from the roster of an AIDS benefit show in New York organized by the Gay Men's Health Crisis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Men%27s_Health_Crisis).[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#cite_note-James89-12)[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#cite_note-Sugerman91-17)

like said, axl rose is a racist/homophobic tool

ParaRevolutionary
25th March 2012, 13:39
like said, axl rose is a racist/homophobic tool

Well i feel even better about not being a fan of the band now.

Искра
25th March 2012, 16:06
Were the 4skins right wing from the start? Surely not? ACAB?

Wouldn't upset me that much, they were always fucking shite.
People thing of this song as racist...


CI0EbuXOOHE


Go to football, throw a brick,
Get no mercy, months in nick
Riot in the ghetto, red alert,
Guilty free, innocent hurt

We've been warned of rivers of blood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7fETsKYkA)
See the trickle before the flood
Pretend nothing happened, make no fuss
One law for them, One for us

One law for them, One law for them,
One law for them, and another law for us

No fun, no homes, no job, no use
what else is used as an excuse
Families fighting, familes looting
next theres death, then theres shooting

One law for them, One law for them,
One law for them, and another law for us

Riots in London, blame Old Bill
We've been lucky no ones killed
Violence on the streets, more to follow
Freedom for those freedom fighters

One law for them, One law for them,
One law for them, and another law for us

Anyhow, skinheads as subculture become well known when they chased some smelly ass hippies screaming Enoch, Enoch, Enoch... after that incidend they got their name "skinhead".

Tbh, I don't find this song racist. I think that this song is about situation in Britain in that time. Problem comes when you try to interpret who's "they" and who's "us". I think that "they" are politicans and that "us" are white Birtish working class men, because that is a perspective from which these guys are singing... that's their experience etc.

ed miliband
25th March 2012, 16:27
I know an old guitarist of theirs joined Skrewdriver, but I didn't think they were right wing. I can't see a right wing band keeping a labour party bassist.


why not? i remember watching a documentary on the london skinhead scene in the 80s and most skins came from labour party backgrounds whether they were left-wing, right-wing or apolitical.

e2a: i know people who are labour supporters simply because their parents are and they have politics that could fit nicely into something like the edl. i'm being a bit extreme there but the point stands.

plus even in the mid-late 70s you had labour politicians like bob mellish making statements like this:


We cannot go on like this. I do not care what those on this side of the House, or the Opposition side or anywhere else, say. Problems at local level will become worse and worse for our own people unless something is done. All hon. Members know that people come to their surgeries describing the most distressing conditions—terrifying conditions. People born and bred in their own constituencies have been on the housing waiting list for as long as six years. But, on the points system, one must give immigrants preference...People cannot come here just because they have a British passport—full stophttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Mellish

Искра
25th March 2012, 16:33
On skinheads and Labour party:

rv_aX5d1FDM

Oi!

Lanky Wanker
25th March 2012, 16:35
People thing of this song as racist...


The only thing I can see that would make me think they were racist (only after someone brought up the topic) is this:


Go to football, throw a brick,
Get no mercy, months in nick
Riot in the ghetto, red alert,
Guilty free, innocent hurt

Other than that, I'm scratching my head.


why not? i remember watching a documentary on the london skinhead scene in the 80s and most skins came from labour party backgrounds whether they were left-wing, right-wing or apolitical.


Well, where you come from and where you're going are two different things. I'm just saying, we wouldn't have any right wingers in my band at least, regardless of how serious/open about it they were.

Lanky Wanker
25th March 2012, 16:40
On skinheads and Labour party:

rv_aX5d1FDM

Oi!


im just gonna say this im a redskin and im proud and i love this band im actually mates with their new guitar player and dont bring politics into just enjoy the music
hopknoxker 4 months ago 8

Isn't it beautiful when we can all just get along and be friends? :D

Искра
25th March 2012, 16:41
Click on "river of blood" I posted whole speech there. I don't see why "riot in a ghetto" could be racist, because Carebian people used to riot back then.

Anyhow... I'm now listening to Close Shave and Condemned 84. If you ask me, you can't find better Oi! bands than this (well maybe 4 Skins, Cockney Rejects and The Oppressed could fit into this crew)...

Искра
25th March 2012, 16:42
Isn't it beautiful when we can all just get along and be friends? :D
Hahahahah! Yeah, I've laughed on that post... anyhow, you have to admit that song is a killer...

Lanky Wanker
25th March 2012, 17:18
Click on "river of blood" I posted whole speech there. I don't see why "riot in a ghetto" could be racist, because Carebian people used to riot back then.


I don't understand how the song would be racist in the first place, but if I had to pick it out from the lyrics that would be the only thing I'd notice.


Hahahahah! Yeah, I've laughed on that post... anyhow, you have to admit that song is a killer...

No match for this!

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http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/4ec34d238fdb23991f5e4b98e2f60b323da63336_m.gif

I actually quite like this music... we should have a whole thread of this shit just to piss off Stormfront.