Abstinance-only sex ed bill passes Utah Senate

[RedZero]

http://fox13now.com/2012/03/06/abstinance-only-sex-ed-bill-passes-utah-senate/


House Bill 363 passed with a vote of 19-10 in Utah’s Senate Tuesday to make is so sex education in Utah schools be abstinence-based, while issues concerning contraceptives or homosexuality be solely up to parents to address.

After the new bill goes into effect, the teaching of sex education in Utah classrooms has to be about not having sex before marriage and fidelity within marriage. Teachers cannot advocate the use of contraceptives anymore and they cannot talk about homosexuality, even if asked by a student.

HB 363 would also allow any Utah school to opt out of sex education and would ban students from talking to their teachers about per-marital sex.

“My problem is that we’re having essentially complete strangers teaching are our children, who frankly we don’t know who they are and exactly what they’re teaching, with the most sensitive issues that do belong in the home,” said one Republican Senator during Tuesday’s floor debate.

Opponents to the bill, most of them Senate Democrats, say that HB 363 is out of touch with reality and, according to Sen. Luz Robles, a type of government interference that Republicans routinely rail against.

“We talked about all the time about how government is intruding on peoples lives, and this bill will now take that option away from parents,” Robles said while calling the piece of legislation “contradictory.”

The current statute allows Utah schools to teach abstinence-based or abstinence-only curriculum. Parents can opt-in their son or daughter for sex education classes. But with the new bill, this option is no longer.

The bill now heads to the governor’s desk where he can either sign it into law or veto it.

[Ostrinski]

Shame. I received a similar sex education. It was such a wash.

[Comrade Samuel]

due to the fact nobody will know how to use a condom/ take birth control I predict teen pregnancy will be through the roof in the comeing years.

[Tovarisch]

Bullshit. BULLSHIT. How are kids supposed to learn safe-sex habits with this type of education going on?

I guess Republicans just love seeing the STDs and teen pregnancy rates increase

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

I hope everyone who needs to suffer through abstinence only education gets to have tons and tons of (safe) premarital sex.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

This isn't education, it's deliberate mis-education pushed by theocrats.

[9]

big surprise

[Drosophila]

It's shit like this that makes the Midwest seem like hell.

[Grenzer]

Usual crap from reactionary assholes. What else is there to say, really?

[Ostrinski]

It's shit like this that makes the Midwest seem like hell.The midwest is hell. I've had the unfortunate chance to drive through it.

[Q]

This is like that Family Guy episode. Aside it from not being a televised parody of reality.

What idiots.

[eric922]

You know sometimes I feel like Utah hasn't changed at all since the days it was directly ruled by Brigham Young.

[Regicollis]

To quote Roy Zimmerman: "Abstinence-only sex education is a bit like 'Just hold it' potty training"

[Jack]

In other news, teen pregnancy rates are skyrocketing in Utah.







Anyways, sex ed programs will always vary school by school, my high school had a policy of "abstinence first", instead of abstinence only, which is a nice way to spend 10% of the time talking about safe sex while spending the other 90% discouraging kids from even having sex. Condoms suck anyways.

[9]

Condoms suck anyways.

Thats cute :rolleyes:

[Sasha]

Someone should sue for criminal neglecents

[Agathor]

The supreme court might have a problem with the gay stuff.

[l'Enfermé]

due to the fact nobody will know how to use a condom/ take birth control I predict teen pregnancy will be through the roof in the comeing years.
Condoms are so hard to figure out.

they cannot talk about homosexuality, even if asked by a student
Christian tactic of fighting homosexuality: Pretend it doesn't exist.

[Hexen]

I guess Republicans just love seeing the STDs and teen pregnancy rates increase

The bolded part is part of the plan which their main agenda is to use women as birthing machines to produce more soldiers to fight their wars. That's the main reason behind their Pro-Life/Anti-Abortion motives since you if look through history, Imperial Japan did the same thing and possibly others. It's nothing more than a war tactic which shows how warmongering right-wingers really are.

[Guy Incognito]

Condoms are so hard to figure out.

Christian tactic of fighting homosexuality: Pretend it doesn't exist.

I think it's not so much that condoms are hard to figure out, as it is that they're not made available in these communities in the manner that they should be. If they're bought, the purchaser (if not married, is a teenager, etc.) is publicly shamed, so many will go without, or steal it. And, if the teen pregnancy rates in the southern U.S. are any indication, this is one of the causes (public shaming, abstinance only education).

Then of course, their legal removal of any mention of homosexuality further enforces their institutionalized bigotry, which I'm sure will lead to more young gay men and women being beaten, bullied and discriminated against in these communities for the next generation. This kind of crap is the reason fundies should be kept far far away from the legislative process. :thumbdown:

[Revolutionair]

Condoms are so hard to figure out.

Well considering people did this:

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/8bd65586-047f-4f86-96ca-794fb557c9c3.jpg

[Misanthrope]

Shame. I received a similar sex education. It was such a wash.

As our most classes:(


How long before states start instituting religious based sex ed classes? I.e. if you have sex before marriage you will burn eternally in flames?

[Guy Incognito]

As our most classes:(


How long before states start instituting religious based sex ed classes? I.e. if you have sex before marriage you will burn eternally in flames?

Never going to happen. That sort of thing is currently against the constitution of the United States, and is opposed by a good majority of the country. The loud minority who push such things would get a nice fat mushroom stamp on the forehead if they overplayed their hand that badly.

[Doflamingo]

Republicans taking away education? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGH :laugh:

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

In other news, Utah leads the United States in consumption of commercial pornography.

[marl]

My sex education in Mass consisted of this:
1. Learn about human body, label the parts of some dudes dick and a vagina. Not bad.
2. Tons of pictures of STD's shown. We had to learn the name of STD's and what they caused and matched them up.
3. Teen pregnancy.
4. "Okay, children, condoms don't work! That, plus the fact you get STD's from a girls mouth! The 100% way to stop this is abstinence!"

[Marvin the Marxian]

Here's what I'd like to see instead, at least for a start:

1. Learn about the male and female reproductive systems.
2. Learn about the different types of intercourse, including reproductive intercourse. Sexual preference should also be covered here.
3. Learn about the risks associated with different types of intercourse (unwanted pregnancy and different STDs).
4. Learn about the ways to mitigate those risks (condoms, contraceptives, abstinence, etc.).

[Agathor]

That you people think that kids in the twenty first century learn about sex in school adds some humour to this thread.

[Revolutionary_Marxist]

This seems to be another form of Republican Conservative indoctrination of false ideas. Like the others have been saying, it seems rather arbitrary to promote absistence only education. Isn't education supposed to be from multiple points of perspective?

[Marvin the Marxian]

That you people think that kids in the twenty first century learn about sex in school adds some humour to this thread.

Didn't mean to give you that impression, comrade. I myself didn't learn about sex in school. I also learned about sex at a pretty early age. But if school is going to provide any kind of sex education, I think it should follow a different path from the path that conservatives want it to follow.