Join My Crusade!!!

[The Children of the Revolution]

Join me, comrades, in my glorious crusade AGAINST "pop" music!!!

Do we want every song to be a mere 3:30 long?
To have EXACTLY the same damned chord sequence EVERY time?
To have untalented MORONS "singing" when they should be politicians?
To have the same F*****G videos replayed ad nauseum on MTV?
Do we want MTV?
Do we need Robbie Williams, Britney, Kylie (well, Kylie can stay), Gareth or Will, Liberty X, Avril, or ANY of them?
Should we have to suffer "Popstars", "Fame Academy", or "Pop Idol"?
Should we have to listen to mindless CRAP every time we hear the Radio these days?

NO!!!

THE REVOLUTION BEGINS HERE!!!

What you can do:
Boycott ALL pop music!
Tell your friends; spread the word!
BURN any Pop CD's lying around!
Hang around outside HMV and BEAT THOSE THAT BUT "POP" MUSIC WITH STICKS!!!
Make sure "The Darkness" get Christmas number one!

THE MUSIC REVOLUTION BEGINS NOW!!!

[FatFreeMilk]

Or you could just change the station :)

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

What exactly do you mean by pop music?
They're not songs targeted for you, don't listen to them.
What&#39;s the problem? <_<

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2003, 03:26 AM
What exactly do you mean by pop music?
They&#39;re not songs targeted for you, don&#39;t listen to them.
What&#39;s the problem? <_<
I&#39;m tending to agree with Victor here and that doesn&#39;t happen too often.

Seriously though, I find it funny when people ***** about the content on MTV. What do you fucing expect from MTV? And those shows like pop idol or whatever, why are you even watching them? Why do you even know about them?

There are good radio station in the US, you just have to know where to look for them. THey are usually way to the left of the dial or low numbers less than 92MHz. These are the college stations, community stations and pirate stations. Listen to them support them and if possible get involved with them and maybe even do your own radio show at one of these stations&#33;

[The Children of the Revolution]

Or you could just change the station


NO&#33; It&#39;s everywhere&#33; And it&#39;s spreading&#33;



What do you f*****g expect from MTV?


I expect MTV to shut down immediately. Stupid bloody channel anyway.
The same goes for Pop Idol, and other music shows. Not "Later with Jools Holland" though, that&#39;s actually rather good. (And yet it gets pushed right to the back of the TV schedule&#33;)

"Pop" music is awful. It is processed crap, (not literally, that&#39;d be fertiliser) made solely for profit; nothing else. Every damn song is made for radio, no innovation can be seen anywhere. Or talent; the "artists" involved are there on the basis of looks alone. Which is all well and good until you&#39;re forced to actually LISTEN to their stuff. And because of the financial clout behind it, as with any other "commodity" on the Free Market, it will eventually completely dominate the World music scene. Which would be tragic.

No more bands like "Queen", "Led Zeppelin", "Pink Floyd"; no artistic flair from Hendrix-u-likes...

Just monotonous ARSE, repeated ad infinitum.

Soon, I won&#39;t be able to change the station to escape the dreadfullness; it will be everywhere.

WHICH IS WHY WE MUST ACT NOW&#33;&#33;&#33;
BEAT THEM WITH STICKS&#33;&#33;&#33;
SHARP STICKS&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

All bands are used soley for profit.

[Mike Fakelastname]

I have a question, does anyone else consider rap music pop? Because I do. Rap music basically has became the next generation of pop.

[Danton]

Well, on the one hand yes because it is the biggest selling music in the world.
Though "pop" carries ugly connotations these days. Popular music is degenerating daily and Children of the revolution is on to something with the sticks thing, action is required because all this filth is sucking out the lifeblood of independant music, the big boys will only back a sure thing and a televisial presence is a pre-requisite, it leaves real musicans playing digereedoo&#39;s on the London underground for twenty pence an hour or less. Or hiding in subetteranean villages fraternizing with animals and making disturbingly high frequency noise on theremins...

[Hampton]

Originally posted by Mike [email protected] 27 2003, 12:47 PM
I have a question, does anyone else consider rap music pop? Because I do. Rap music basically has became the next generation of pop.
A lot of rap is pop music. More the mainstream ones than anybody..any rap you hear on a non rap exclusive station on the radio is pop.

[Monty Cantsin]

yer pop music is crap but what are you gonna do band it people have the right to live life how they wont. even if it&#39;s missGuided its mostly 12 year old that like that stuff.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

euripides and I are gonna rebel against punctuation becuase it sucks =D

[Rastafari]

you mus take socialist fredom withyou

[bush youth]

Boycott ALL pop music&#33;
Even britpop?:unsure: and bands like Manic Street Preachers, Duran Duran or Radiohead are often referred to as pop. Surely we don&#39;t want to beat them down?
attack the whole idea of mainstream.
Rap & Hip-hop are corporate whores too&#33;

[SgtPepper369]

Every rock band in Britan (other than punk) is refered to as "pop" for some reason. So I&#39;ve come to accept that all rock music is "pop". What the real enemy is this R&B as we&#39;ve come to call it. NSYNC, Britney, Backstreet Boys... whatever they&#39;re called it&#39;s not R&B. To me R&B music is The Temptations, Jackson 5, Aretha Franklin... thats good stuff. R&B should not be played with by rich white kids.

[Mike Fakelastname]

You know, the Beatles were considered pop, and they&#39;re pretty good. I don&#39;t have a thing against pop music, just the pop music that sucks, which unfortunately is the majority of pop music.

[Soviet power supreme]

I thought that rap is from funk which is from jazz.

[Intifada]

isnt "pop" just short for popular? anyway, typical "pop" music sucks.

[The Children of the Revolution]

... all this filth is sucking out the lifeblood of independant music, the big boys will only back a sure thing and a televisial presence is a pre-requisite, it leaves real musicans playing digereedoo&#39;s on the London underground for twenty pence an hour or less.


PRECISELY. Not all music is made for profit. Not all bands exist only to get rich. And it is usually the best ones which don&#39;t. (Or do, but to a lesser extent) Therefore it is this creative pool which will suffer; doomed to play once a week in a local tavern. The World worse off for not having heard them.

And meanwhile, increasing uniformity in the "pop" world (verse verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus; three and a half minutes made for radio trash; saturday morning tv appearences; smiley smiley photo photo...) makes every radio station the same&#33;



euripides and I are gonna rebel against punctuation becuase it sucks


LOL, light hearted relief&#33;



You know, the Beatles were considered pop, and they&#39;re pretty good.


This is what we must strive to achieve&#33; "Pop" music back in the day WAS good, because it lacked the huge commercial weight behind it. The Beatles ARE (were) good. Similarly, "The Darkness" are fantastic. And Britpop, to an extent, is independent. But processed cheesy boy/girl bands have NO innovation, NO creativity, NO style... and are destroying "music" on a daily basis&#33;

This is what my crusade is about&#33;

(And yes, rap music is awful too. Hopefully it&#39;s just a phase... Rock, Jazz, Blues - they&#39;ll be around forever&#33;)

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I think it&#39;s quite foolish of you, comrade, to make judgements regarding what exactly is the incentive or motive of a musician to perform. It&#39;s a rather personal decision affecting nobody, really. And whether or not music is is made for the "illigitimate" purpose of generating money doesn&#39;t necessarily determine the music&#39;s quality.

[suffianr]

What a pointless thing to do.

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

I think its a great example of the crypto-conformity created by capitalism. &#39;Pop&#39; music from the 60&#39;s and often right up until the 80&#39;s in lots of cases sounds waaaaaaay better than modern stuff, as we become ever more driven by money and stars find &#39;winning formulas&#39; for songs they will sound more and more alike.

[The Children of the Revolution]

... &#39;winning formulas&#39; for songs they will sound more and more alike.


Very true. When was the last time you heard a guitar solo in a "boyzone" (or are they dead now - i really don&#39;t keep up with the charts) single for example? Or a saxophone solo? Or, indeed, a saxophone? It&#39;s all electronic durmming, keyboard playing rubbish.

And I mean to put a stop to it&#33;

Another point to raise: the "musicians" themselves are being exploited&#33; A band like Queen or Led Zeppelin will be around eternally, they are that good. Their mark has been left on the musical world. But what of pop "artists"? They are recruited by music labels, paraded around half naked for a while, encouraged to "sing" ridiculous songs, jiggle around a bit on MTV... And then what? The publishers take 90% of the profit; the artists are doomed to a life of humiliation. The instant fame gone, their "songs" will never be played again... No money, no friends... (alas, fame is fleeting) Doomed. I challenge someone to admit to playing a "Hearsay" song recently. I bet no-one can even name the band in a year.

POP MUST DIE&#33;&#33;&#33;
KILL THEM ALL&#33;&#33;&#33;
BURN&#33;&#33;&#33;
DEATH&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Mrs. Cleo says: SHUT THE FUCK UP, CHILD.
http://www.angelfire.com/space/tristan/cleo.jpg

[ComradeRobertRiley]

The problem is this mind numbing soul draining bullshit.

Im not a drone or a sheep, stop feeding me this monotonous fucking waste of shit.

Im with you comrade TCOTR

[The Children of the Revolution]

The problem is this mind numbing soul draining bullshit.

Im not a drone or a sheep, stop feeding me this monotonous fucking waste of shit.

Im with you comrade TCOTR


Hooray&#33; Someone else can see sense&#33; Fantastic, let the stick related violence commence&#33;

VictorCommie gets a beating too, for continually resorting to STUPID DAMNED WASTE-OF-SPACE PICTURES. Anyone would think (if they hadn&#39;t read posts suggesting the contrary) that you LIKED "pop" music... "Pop" music is a tool, employed by the Capitalist Pigs. The aim is to depress and bore the masses into submission. Repeated listening to "Pop" music can achieve this in a remarkably short space of time...

DOWN WITH "POP"&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Invader Zim]

Pop music irritates the hell out of me, it infests every thing, I cant go out or listen to the TV or radio for five minutes with out Robbie Williams or some new concotion of talentless wankers, voted together by an ignorant bunch of 12 year olds (well there are some exceptions obviously). They produse music which takes no musical ability to produse, has no soul, has no imagination, has stupidly pathetic lyrics... and just sucks.

The only good (modern) popband are... err... I&#39;ll get back to you on that one.

the most sad thing however is todays nostalgic middle aged generation, look back to their youth and remember great pop bands such as Thin lizzy, Queen, Pink Floyd (well they had a number 1, I recon i get away with them), etc,etc,etc. Todays teenagers are going to look back, and all they have to remember will be the Spice Girls, S club 7, and Robbie fucking Williams.

[bush youth]

Radiohead: Oh no, pop is dead, long live pop
It died an ugly death by back - catalogue
And now you know it gets you nowhere
And now you know, you realize

Oh no, pop is dead, it just gave up
We raised the dead but they won&#39;t stand up
And radio has salmonella
And now you know you&#39;re gonna die

So what pop is dead, it&#39;s no great loss
So many facelifts, his face flew off
The emperor really has no clothes on
And his skin is peeling off
I haven&#39;t heard any S Club 7, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys in years.
It&#39;s been replaced by corporate rap/hip-hop/punk and such.

The only way to stop such whoring is socialism.

[Fabi]

What isn&#39;t pop? Almost all music out there is more or less pop or would be pop if it got the exposure. Hell, just cause he&#39;s been around forever and still is great I won&#39;t boycott Leonard Cohen. And I won&#39;t boycott Nine Inch Nails when they finally release the new album.
In music it&#39;s like traditional visual arts such as drawing and painting: Pretty much everything has been done and redone and broken and fixed over and over again. :unsure:

Most music people like is some kind of &#39;folk/dance&#39; music anyway: It&#39;s made buy somebody for somebody to party/dance/hold their black mass to or as a sonic background when a bunch of kids dance around a burning American flag... Mostly none of that is all that extremely exciting/&#39;new&#39; anyway. :rolleyes:

If you want to boycott pop music all you can do it listen to some painful deafening ugly gay noise, cause that&#39;s about as unpopular as it gets, and even that is turning somewhat pop(ular) and has been for some people for decades... If you are too lazy to look for different music its no one&#39;s fault but your own. :lol:

[suffianr]

It&#39;s all electronic durmming, keyboard playing rubbish.

That&#39;s Sound Engineering, you nugget. :lol:

Even most of your "live" guitar solos are recorded in digital format, spliced together on something like Pro Tools (http://www.protools.com/), and then mixed in with the drums, bass and vocals and generally tweaked about before it&#39;s sent for mastering...So, what are you talking about?

Even Lenny Kravitz uses digital recording equipment nowadays&#33;

And there&#39;s nothing low-brow about "electronic drumming" either; it takes a certain amount of skill to get it right when all you&#39;re dealing with are step sequencers and graphs of music notation...

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I used the picture because I had previously clearly shown you exactly why it is that it&#39;s pointless for criticizing "pop" music for the sole reason that it&#39;s pop, and you ignored what i wrote and went on with your bullshit. No offense, by the way, but the point you&#39;re trying to make in this thread is foolish, comrade.

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2003, 03:00 AM
all you can do it listen to some painful deafening ugly gay noise, cause that&#39;s about as unpopular as it gets
Whats up with you? Is homosexuality ugly? Is it as &#39;unpopular&#39; as it gets to be gay? Perhaps its a capitalist thing? Dumbass.

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

I think u should either be restricted or apologise for your right-wing statement.

[The Children of the Revolution]

Todays teenagers are going to look back, and all they have to remember will be the Spice Girls, S club 7, and Robbie fucking Williams.


They won&#39;t even be remembered. They are temporary fads, "it" one minute, gone the next.



If you are too lazy to look for different music its no one&#39;s fault but your own.


Hey, I am anything BUT lazy&#33; To escape "pop" tripe, I have to trawl through the "Classic Rock" section in my local music store, where no-one can be bothered to classify the stuff correctly, and there are no samples on the headphone things. Plus, the good stuff is more expensive because it was recorded twenty years ago or whatever. AND WHILST LOOKING FOR SAID "CLASSIC ROCK" CD&#39;s I AM FORCED TO LISTEN TO UTTER TRASH ON THE STORE RADIO&#33;&#33;&#33; GRRRRRR&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;



Even most of your "live" guitar solos are recorded in digital format


Except the bands concerned can actually play the music live - they aren&#39;t simply digitally made crap. Even the Stereophonics (Rock-Pop) play awesomely live - because they have that innovation. (I should know, I saw them in Manchester last thursday)



No offense, by the way, but the point you&#39;re trying to make in this thread is foolish, comrade.


None taken, I ignore your posts in this thread anyhow. I just hate those damned pictures, they are so annoying. At least it wasn&#39;t from ebaumsworld or whatever it&#39;s called. I posted one of those and regretted it instantly. Unneccessary, comrade.

BUY PROPER MUSIC NOW&#33;&#33;&#33;
BUY PROPER MUSIC NOW&#33;&#33;&#33;
BUY PROPER MUSIC NOW&#33;&#33;&#33;
BUY PROPER MUSIC NOW&#33;&#33;&#33;
BUY PROPER MUSIC NOW&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Fabi]

Why the fuck does someone HAVE to be able to do something live? You don&#39;t tell a painter &#39;nice picture, but do it again, but live this time&#39;... Classical composers did a lot of sitting on their asses writing down notation crap for someone else to play, what is your point?

Have you actually ever looked into electronic music and what kind of skills it requires? And Pink Floyd aren&#39;t pop? I know enough people who think Pink Floyd are/were pretentious, snobby pop pussies and I think depending on your politic that point of view is actually somewhat valid...

All the bands you listed so far are pop, yet you keep complaining about pop. :rolleyes:

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Again, comarde, it&#39;s foolish of you to make judgements regarding what exactly is the purpose for a musician to perform. It&#39;s a rather personal decision affecting nobody but teh musician himself, really. And whether music is is made for the "illigitimate" purpose of generating money or not, doesn&#39;t determine the music&#39;s quality. You&#39;re being prejudicial, mate, stop it.

[suffianr]

Except the bands concerned can actually play the music live - they aren&#39;t simply digitally made crap. Even the Stereophonics (Rock-Pop) play awesomely live - because they have that innovation. (I should know, I saw them in Manchester last thursday)

&#39;Digitally made crap&#39; is based on samples, and samples are recorded from live instruments&#33; :lol:

To believe that playing awesomely live (dirty adverbs) is greater than being stuck in a studio playing around on step sequencers and drum machines means that you have absolutely no comprehension of what it means to make music. You are, in other words, simply so far up in your own ass that you can&#39;t see the forest for the trees, boy.

I know a few sessionists, some of the best local Jazz guitarists and drummers, who enjoy making music on their computers as much as they love jamming in a studio; they map out their solos, tidy up on their arrangements and add a little more colour to their otherwise &#39;live&#39; compositions, using important effects like reverb, flangers and distortion.

Point is, you can&#39;t compare the two methods of making music. They require different approaches, different skills and different attitudes. But it&#39;s still music.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

I hate manufacturaed bullshit, they dont even play instruments, I bed those pop idol wankers wouldnt know a B7 if brian may played it&#33;&#33;

[Fabi]

I bed you wouldn&#39;t know a typo if it sucked your cock...

[suffianr]

I bed you wouldn&#39;t know a typo if it sucked your cock...

:lol:

This is what you&#39;re missing out on, folks. Dig it. (http://www.propellerheads.se)

Imagine having the ability to compose, mix and record your own music on your own computer. Or in The Children of the Revolution&#39;s case, his Mommy&#39;s.

[truthaddict11]

i think TCOTR needs to chill out and stop his one man "crusade" :lol: against music he doesnt like. i dont like techno or disco but you dont see me starting "crusades" against it. if you dont like the shit on the radio turn it off, you are aware of that button right? we have that CLear Channel shit all the time and the rock/metal station is littered with those shitty nu-"metal" bands so i dont listen to the radio and go to independent recordstores you&#39;ll find what you like there much easier than say a Sam Goody or FYE.

[Fabi]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2003, 10:20 PM

I bed you wouldn&#39;t know a typo if it sucked your cock...

:lol:

This is what you&#39;re missing out on, folks. Dig it. (http://www.propellerheads.se)

Imagine having the ability to compose, mix and record your own music on your own computer. Or in The Children of the Revolution&#39;s case, his Mommy&#39;s.
A lot of classically trained people actually like using computers to compose instead of having to rely on a stupid unreliable orchestra (or even just a band)... :)

[The Children of the Revolution]

Why the fuck does someone HAVE to be able to do something live?


It means that the music you buy on the shelf is actually representative of their talent. I don&#39;t know why people suddenly think I hate electronically produced music; my point was not to insult those who produce it. I don&#39;t know how much skill goes into it, no. But my crusade is against POP - so should yours be. POP music requires none of this talent, just a pretty face and some money behind you.



To believe that playing awesomely live (dirty adverbs) is greater than being stuck in a studio playing around on step sequencers and drum machines means that you have absolutely no comprehension of what it means to make music. You are, in other words, simply so far up in your own ass that you can&#39;t see the forest for the trees, boy.


Hey, piss off. I play piano and guitar. I know how tricky a riff or solo is; I&#39;ve tried (and failed) to reproduce the magic of Hendrix or Brian May. But I borrowed a friends "Popular Songbook" once; almost everything I could play on the keyboard instantly. My quarrel is not with electronic music (although admittadly it isn&#39;t my idea of a good time) but with trashy equivalents, AS HEARD ON POP TRACKS. If you put together any "digital crap" yourself, I&#39;m sure you share my opinions.



I hate manufacturaed bullshit, they dont even play instruments, I bed those pop idol wankers wouldnt know a B7 if brian may played it&#33;&#33;


Absolutely. Musicians of the World, unite&#33; You have nothing to lose but your dignity&#33;



Imagine having the ability to compose, mix and record your own music on your own computer. Or in The Children of the Revolution&#39;s case, his Mommy&#39;s.


Resorting to low-level insults? Twat. ( :P ) I built my computer for your information; it only crashes once a week. Ok, twice. ONCE AGAIN: MY HATRED IS NOT DIRECTED TO THOSE WHO ACTUALLY HAVE TALENT&#33;

It is no-talent, smiley, gawpy morons that I take issue with. The ones who couldn&#39;t tell the difference between an F-sharp and a G-flat. (This is a musical joke) JOIN MY CRUSADE&#33;&#33;&#33; Or listen to Robbie Williams and his ilk for eternity... Your choice, comrades.

Except "suffianr". He can f*** off and spend all day brilliantly constructing a two-note riff on his (sisters) computer. And fiddling with the tempo. And adding a backing note. (Just one, two notes would take a week) Mommy&#39;s computer indeed... :P

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

If they don&#39;t have musical telent, then they must have something to be successful. What&#39;s the problem if that happens to not be what you&#39;re looking for?

[The Children of the Revolution]

If they don&#39;t have musical telent, then they must have something to be successful. What&#39;s the problem if that happens to not be what you&#39;re looking for?


Ok VictorCommie, you are forgiven. I shall stop ignoring you. But no more silly pictures, PLEASE&#33;

My point concerning this is very simple. They (POP "artists") substitute a pretty face, a video showing this pretty face, (and a lot else) and money (advertising, radio time, magasine coverage etc. etc.) for musical talent. This is "not what [i&#39;m] looking for", no. And nor should it be what anyone wants in "music". If current trends continue, THIS IS ALL THAT WILL BE LEFT&#33;&#33;&#33; And a great void will exist in the musical world, and many people will regret their foolish actions. (BUYING THE DAMNED STUFF&#33;) And we will survive on rations of "Bohemian Rhapsody" when the Top 10 Best Selling Records appears on Channel 4.

AND YOU WILL BE SORRY&#33;&#33;&#33;

JOIN MY CRUSADE&#33;&#33;&#33;

[truthaddict11]

lol this thread gets funnier all the time. how soon till TCOTR pops? lol.
Michael Jackson is considered the King of Pop guess we can listen to him anymore, do yourself a favor and stop posting this JOIN MY CRUDADE bullshit you are making a complete fool of yourself

[dirtyd6969]

Why the fuck does someone HAVE to be able to do something live?



It means that the music you buy on the shelf is actually representative of their talent. I don&#39;t know why people suddenly think I hate electronically produced music; my point was not to insult those who produce it. I don&#39;t know how much skill goes into it, no. But my crusade is against POP - so should yours be. POP music requires none of this talent, just a pretty face and some money behind you.

hmmmm maybe its just me but i thought pink floyd never played live. and you all praise them still .

[Monty Cantsin]

dirtyd6969 they did play live just not that often, i saw the vido of them playing heaps of lights and they had a wall being built next to the stage with about 300 people working on it.

[dirtyd6969]

oh rad

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

You need to stop judging the value of people&#39;s talents.
And it&#39;s stupid to label all "pop" music as bad, because their really isn&#39;t even a common characteristic of all pop music that makes it "pop" is there? What is it?

[Fabi]

oh, and the f sharp g flat thing... I am pretty sure even i got that, cause it&#39;s the same, just talking from a different perspective (going up or coming down or what have you), right? gee, i am so smart. :lol:

[ComradeRobertRiley]

get a life fati oops i mean flabi i mean fabi

[The Children of the Revolution]

lol this thread gets funnier all the time. how soon till TCOTR pops? lol.
Michael Jackson is considered the King of Pop guess we can listen to him anymore, do yourself a favor and stop posting this JOIN MY CRUDADE bullshit you are making a complete fool of yourself


GRRRR&#33;&#33;&#33; MUST KILL POP MUSIC&#33;&#33;&#33; DESTROY... MURDER... PILLAGE... <pop>

Michael Jackson is not the problem; he can stay. (In prison) He has talent, he can sing. Much "old" pop is the same - the "artists" had a degree of talent.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME TODAY&#33;&#33;&#33; JOIN MY CRUSADE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;



And it&#39;s stupid to label all "pop" music as bad ...


I DIDN&#39;T&#33;&#33;&#33; JUST MODERN POP - IN THE CHARTS POP, SATURDAY MORNING POP...



oh, and the f sharp g flat thing... I am pretty sure even i got that, cause it&#39;s the same, just talking from a different perspective (going up or coming down or what have you), right? gee, i am so smart.


Genius&#33; You could be in "Blue" with intelligence like that&#33; (This is not a compliment)

[suffianr]

Resorting to low-level insults? Twat. ( ) I built my computer for your information; it only crashes once a week. Ok, twice. ONCE AGAIN: MY HATRED IS NOT DIRECTED TO THOSE WHO ACTUALLY HAVE TALENT&#33;

Everyone resorts to low-level insults, once in while. So, what&#39;s the problem? :P

I see where you&#39;re heading. No, really. But please don&#39;t be so anal-retentive (or nonchalant, if you want "high-level") about music. The way I see it, Pop&#39;s always going to be around, whether you hate Britney or not. It&#39;s One Of Those Things, see.

I just got irritated when you started slamming digital music, that&#39;s all. We&#39;re Chums, right? Music is, if you&#39;d care to step out from inside that dark cave you&#39;re living in, a very big thing that isn&#39;t determined by what you play or how you play it. It&#39;s how well you do it that strikes the difference between good music, and bad music.

[Purple]

Originally posted by The Children of the [email protected] 27 2003, 03:38 AM

BURN any Pop CD&#39;s lying around&#33;
no, thank you, im saving my discs for some death metal...

[The Children of the Revolution]

The way I see it, Pop&#39;s always going to be around, whether you hate Britney or not. It&#39;s One Of Those Things, see.


Yes, POP will always be around. My goal, and the aim of this CRUSADE, is to make sure POP actually has a musical aspect to it. Like the Beetles for example. Perhaps I should have phrased the "slamming" title better. JOIN MY CRUSADE AGAINST MUSICALLY IMPOTENT POP MUSIC&#33;&#33;&#33; Sorry if you thought I was "slamming" digital music; I wasn&#39;t. I was "slamming" (nice word, must use it more) its misuse. Slamming slamming slamming spamming.



Music is, if you&#39;d care to step out from inside that dark cave you&#39;re living in, a very big thing that isn&#39;t determined by what you play or how you play it. It&#39;s how well you do it that strikes the difference between good music, and bad music.


I disagree. A monotonous POP track with some pathetic keyboard playing and some "slamming" dancing girls will always be inferior to, say, a "slamming" jazz or blues piece. Even if the POP performance is flawless, it will be held back by the "slamming" limitations of the music. A jazz piece performed badly will still stand out - because the "slamming" music behind it is, more often than not, fantastic.

Get the "slamming" idea? "Slamming" fantastic.

BURN THEM ALL&#33;&#33;&#33;

<slamming>

[toastedmonkey]

Originally posted by The Children of the [email protected] 27 2003, 02:38 AM
Make sure "The Darkness" get Christmas number one&#33;
You retard&#33;

If it gets to number 1, it means it is the most popular song in Britain that week.

You maybe suprised to discover that &#39;pop music&#39; is short for &#39;popular music&#39;

retard


Edit: Someone else might of said this earlier but i cant be arsed reading all the posts

[ComradeRobertRiley]

I have heared that before about michael jackson, but generally his music isnt pop its dance

Theres a big differance

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

so what makes "pop" music "pop"? What criteria is used?
Does that make all music that fits this description bad?

[The Children of the Revolution]

You retard&#33;

If it gets to number 1, it means it is the most popular song in Britain that week.

You maybe suprised to discover that &#39;pop music&#39; is short for &#39;popular music&#39;

retard


How embarassing. I am being insulted by a "ToastedMonkey". Well comrade, if you HAD read the preceeding posts, you might have reconsidered your mini-rant. My issue (for the umpteenth time) is not with music being popular. It is with the type of "music" that is currently popular. Which, besides not really being music at all, is dreadful and only in the charts for financial reasons.

If &#39;the Darkness&#39; get Christmas Number One, this may help to break the cycle of crapness - and encourage more people to buy &#39;proper&#39; music. As defined by me, of course.

You Britney-Liking-Pop-Buying Retard. Have you considered joining a POP band? It seems you have one of the necessary prerequisites anyway... I fart in your general direction.

[toastedmonkey]

Well i aint gonna get into a slangin match, i have standards.

I would call darkness a pop band, because there music is aimed at young people and their sole intention is to achive Number one in the pop charts.

I apologised in advance, for not readin the rest of the posts, so i aint doin it again.


Britney-Liking-Pop-Buying Retard

I dont like Britney, and i dont buy pop, for a matter of fact i dont buy music ;) I leave the retard comment open to debate.


Have you considered joining a POP band? It seems you have one of the necessary prerequisites anyway

No i have never considered joining/forming a pop band, do you really think id do well?


I am being insulted by a "ToastedMonkey".
It may also suprise you, im not actually a toastedmonkey, nor any form of toast or monkey.

[hobosexual]

What a pointless thing to do.

really, you need to look at whos really to blame here. pop is goin to be around as long as there are greedy ppl willing to capitalize off of other ppls talents. that is why all of your "pop" sounds the same, because it makes money. once sometimes hits big and makes a lot of money then the cloning begins and soon you have your new wave of pop music as we are seeing with rap now. old rap was good because nobody gave a shit about it. these ppl were playing for the love of the music. i guarentee you that if death metal sold as well as the rest of this bs then they would halfass copy it, edit it to make it more likable to the public, and that is what youd be hearing all day long on the radio. If anything I would start the "crusade" against all these fucking record labels. and about you not being able to remember half of these bands that are big now. who cares if you remember them or not? after a couple of months they will be too old and nobody is gonna wanna listen to them. these pop bands are just a fad, i have sisters and its funny cause i remember the days they were so obsessed over nsync and all those other bands, now they find there old nsync cds somewhere in the back of the room while cleaning and are so embarrassed that they actually listend to them. which will be the exact same feeling when they look back on the music that they are listening to now. i hate how we have to corrupt and ruin everything, thats the reason i hate "pop" music. not because it isnt good, but it reminds me of how everyone now are fucking pigs. one of these days im gonna change it or die trying, im just not so sure anybody wants too anymore. everyone has become so lazy and brainwashed. god i hate tv.

srry that was so long and prolly didnt make any sense.. :wacko:

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Do you not feel there is anything more important (e.x. class struggle) more important to crusade for then a particular type of music? Let people listen to what they want, and just because you dont like it doesnt mean that it isnt good, or that other people have no right to enjoy it. So what? Maybe pop music does cater to record companies, but the answer here isnt to ban pop music, but to boycott the RIAA and use KaZaA instead of buying any CDs.

[hobosexual]

yea, good idea, pretty soon cds really wont be affordable and the only way youll be able to listen to music is by downloading it.

[The Children of the Revolution]

I would call darkness a pop band, because there music is aimed at young people and their sole intention is to achive Number one in the pop charts.


I would disagree. Many people purchase their records, not just "young people". There are umpteen reasons why they are not a POP band...

> They can play instruments,
> They write their own songs,
> They made it onto the music scene without blanket media coverage,
> They have style&#33;
> Watch the videos; they are CLEARLY a ROCK group&#33;&#33;&#33;



Well i aint gonna get into a slangin match, i have standards.


Excellent. I was just responding to your "retard" comment; I have no wish to be involved in a "slangin" match either.



It may also suprise you, im not actually a toastedmonkey, nor any form of toast or monkey.


No form of toast, no... ( :P :D :P )



... who cares if you remember them or not? after a couple of months they will be too old and nobody is gonna wanna listen to them. these pop bands are just a fad, i have sisters and its funny cause i remember the days they were so obsessed over nsync and all those other bands, now they find there old nsync cds somewhere in the back of the room while cleaning and are so embarrassed that they actually listend to them ...


Not all music is like this. I have listened to Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix for years. I will be listening to them for the rest of my life. This is what music should be like; memorable, lasting. Classic stuff, whatever genre, will be around forever. Except modern POP music. ONCE IT TAKES OVER THERE IS NO GOING BACK&#33;&#33;&#33; WE WILL BE DOOMED TO MUSICAL OBLIVION; UNABLE TO CREATE OR PERFORM&#33;&#33;&#33; "SONGS" WILL BE RELEASED ONLY TO BE FORGOTTEN IN A MONTH&#33;&#33;&#33; A FORM OF TORTURE FOR SURE&#33;&#33;&#33;



Do you not feel there is anything more important (e.x. class struggle) more important to crusade for then a particular type of music?


This is a music forum isn&#39;t it? My God, how embarassing&#33; I posted this in the wrong forum&#33; No wonder you&#39;ve all been laughing at me&#33; How silly of me, I- No wait, I&#39;m OK.

Yes, class struggle is more important... <sigh> BUT WHEN REVOLUTION COMETH, POP MUSIC SHALL FALL ALONG WITH WORLD CAPITALISM&#33;&#33;&#33;

[hobosexual]

QUOTE

... who cares if you remember them or not? after a couple of months they will be too old and nobody is gonna wanna listen to them. these pop bands are just a fad, i have sisters and its funny cause i remember the days they were so obsessed over nsync and all those other bands, now they find there old nsync cds somewhere in the back of the room while cleaning and are so embarrassed that they actually listend to them ...



Not all music is like this. I have listened to Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix for years. I will be listening to them for the rest of my life. This is what music should be like; memorable, lasting. Classic stuff, whatever genre, will be around forever. Except modern POP music. ONCE IT TAKES OVER THERE IS NO GOING BACK&#33;&#33;&#33; WE WILL BE DOOMED TO MUSICAL OBLIVION; UNABLE TO CREATE OR PERFORM&#33;&#33;&#33; "SONGS" WILL BE RELEASED ONLY TO BE FORGOTTEN IN A MONTH&#33;&#33;&#33; A FORM OF TORTURE FOR SURE&#33;&#33;&#33;

o, i sorry, i guess i wasnt very clear. that is what i meant. i was talking about pop music when i said they are just a fad and will be forgotten, but you get it.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Price of CDs go up? Nonsence&#33; They charge 15&#036; for something that takes 3 cents to make. Lack of demand will force the price down. Even if you are right and the price does go up, good riddens. Mp3s are the wave of the future. Besides, you can always copy your mp3s on to CDs.

[katie mccready]

Robbie Williams is a [SIZE=14]DICK [SIZE=7] and i come from Stoke-On-Trent

[Fidelbrand]

how about you start a revolution by becoming a pop star/composer and tell the world that you are able to perform much better than those that are present~ ?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by The Children of the [email protected] 3 2003, 05:10 PM
I would disagree. Many people purchase their records, not just "young people". There are umpteen reasons why they are not a POP band...

> They can play instruments,
> They write their own songs,
> They made it onto the music scene without blanket media coverage,
> They have style&#33;
> Watch the videos; they are CLEARLY a ROCK group&#33;&#33;&#33;
They actualy are a pop group because they&#39;re on the top-40 charts if I&#39;m not mistaken.
A rock group can be a pop group.
I&#39;m not sure if you were aware, but the term pop refers to musicians who have top-40 singles.
Any genre can be pop.

[celtopunk]

Join my crusade to end this stupid thread. "Children of the Revolution", if you don&#39;t like something don&#39;t listen to it. If you can&#39;t find any good new music, make some yourself. If you don&#39;t like what you hear on the radio then you should start a pirate station or find a local college/community station and get your own show and play what you like. If you aren&#39;t part of the solution you are part of the problem, and whining on the internet is not part of the solution.

Oh and "Bush Youth", yes Duran Duran should be beaten down with sticks and such.

Now seriously lets put this thread to rest.

[bush youth]

Originally posted by celtopunk+Jan 9 2004, 12:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (celtopunk @ Jan 9 2004, 12:35 AM)Oh and "Bush Youth", yes Duran Duran should be beaten down with sticks and such. [/b]

[email protected] 9 2004, 12:35 AM
if you don&#39;t like something don&#39;t listen to it.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Celtopunk&#39;s crusade could still sodomize Child&#39;s crusade all night long.

[smoer]

you re talking about the genre(style) pop(wich i&#39;m against) but its just popular music.you dont like the style.you maybe listen to nirvana or something like that but now there not popular anymore but 10ears ago they where very popular so pop.stop janking about it