What the #$%@ is National Bolsheviks?

[Dark Matter]

just curious pleas describe me this be leave,what do they stand for,.... what did they do,...

[TheGodlessUtopian]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/national-bolsheviks-t34639/index.html
http://www.revleft.com/vb/national-bolsheviks-t66110/index.html

Those two links might help you.

[Sasha]

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[Nox]

Well, they're nationalists who use aspects of left-wing economics. It's probably why they are so popular in Russia - they satisfy the demands of both the workers and the nationalists.

[Ocean Seal]

just curious pleas describe me this be leave,what do they stand for,.... what did they do,...
They basically stand for some rather complex shit.
The Nazis and the Bolsheviks were both socialists, but they both hated each other because of their slightly different interpretations of socialism. So basically making the motherland triumph and destroy all other undeserving nations and bringing 'socialism'.



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You censored the word science? Revleft is a fundamentalist conspiracy :ohmy:.

[Hit The North]

Quick answer: Russian fascists.


They basically stand for some rather complex shit.
The Nazis and the Bolsheviks were both socialists, but they both hated each other because of their slightly different interpretations of socialism. So basically making the motherland triumph and destroy all other undeserving nations and bringing 'socialism'.


Any claim to existing traditions of socialism made by the Nazis is completely spurious so your analysis falls down.

[Luc]

^i think Ocean Seal was stating Nazbol (for OP, Nazbol is short for national bolshevik) opinion not Ocean Seal's opinion

it is very confused:

/watch?v=PdrEb4xIgv8


edit: ok fuck this I dunno how to use the youtube thing :cursing: ill edit post once I figure it out...

[Dark Matter]

Oh well since i have saw this, im just going to say:

Good bie socialism good bie marxism good bie communism,if such people exists and that they are fascist mixed with socialism im out. This two videos destroyed everything that my grandma tough me about socialism,it fucked up every single book ive read about socialism. If this people have their self for an left-wing,im ashamed to call myself left.

and an note to administrators:
You also hate this idiots so why not ban all Stalinist from this site?


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[Ostrinski]

Was it really necessary to use the model of the Nazi flag, even if they are nationalists? I wonder what brilliant mind came up with that idea.

[#FF0000]

Good bie socialism good bie marxism good bie communism,if such people exists and that they are fascist mixed with socialism im out. This two videos destroyed everything that my grandma tough me about socialism,it fucked up every single book ive read about socialism. If this people have their self for an left-wing,im ashamed to call myself left.

They aren't communists or socialists or marxists, though. They are Russian hyper-nationalists with some hardcore nostaliga for the USSR going on -- not because it was 'socialist' but because it was, in their minds, 'strong'.


and an note to administrators:
You also hate this idiots so why not ban all Stalinist from this site?

Marxists-Leninists who uphold Stalin aren't the same as National Bolsheviks.

[Crux]

Was it really necessary to use the model of the Nazi flag, even if they are nationalists? I wonder what brilliant mind came up with that idea.
Because it's provocative. They are very much based around aesthetics.

[Nicolai]

I fucking hate these people. These scums fucks Russia so much up with their violent hooliganism against immigrants and LGBT-society, and their stupid ass fascist rhetorics.

I'd wish I could bash their skulls in everyone of them. I know, it is unobjective, but damn I FUCKING HATE THESE ASSHATS -.-

[thriller]

Is there any actual literature that national Bolsheviks have written/published? I just can't tell if they have an actual specific ideology or just a specific image (that is combining soviet and nazi symbols and hardcore music)?

[#FF0000]

Is there any actual literature that national Bolsheviks have written/published? I just can't tell if they have an actual specific ideology or just a specific image (that is combining soviet and nazi symbols and hardcore music)?

idk. I know Eduard Liminov writes a ton. The Exiled loves him, for some reason.

[Red Future]

I believe the Kremlin banned them a few years ago.A small splinter front called the National Bolshevik Front is still going though.The NBF contain the hooligan elemenet who were angry with Liminov's "betrayl" of the NBP.

[PhoenixAsh]

The huge difference between the NBP and NBF is that one is third positionist and the other is openly national-socialist.

The split in the NBP came after the NBP declared that non ethnic slavs and non-white slavs could be Russians too and accepted them as members. They do not focus as much on ethnic purity but on national identity and they are not as openly anti semetic and even cooperate with Jewish and Zionists organisations. The NBP embraces a corporatist form of capitalism mixed with some weird new age shit as of late. This is the great betrayal that was mentioned earlier. The NBP is aligned often with the CPRF...no surprise there.


The NBF is more militant, openly anti-semetic, openly anti non slavic ethnicity. They are in fact true Nazi's....and they are dangerous....more dangerous than NBP members.

[PhoenixAsh]

Oh....and to shatter any dreams of irrelevance of NatBols.

Both the NBP and NBF are outlawed in Russia. But its main progenitors have a huge amount of influence in the current political system. Dugin (NBF idealogue I believe) has the ear of many politicians in the country and that of many advisors of the current government as well.

[Total]

hmmm.. the nzabolpride ww3 video has a picture of the dutch NSA (national socialism action/aoutonomen) 0.41 but if I'm correct they wheren't big on stalin, they called themself national socialist anarchists on multiple occasions. they also claimed to be the treu and only antifa..:laugh: