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Arlekino
5th March 2012, 23:02
Well is not very nice situation in Latvia. Pushing too far in this sign is in the Latvian TV station building. Fucking scaring and is nothing to proud of.http://files.krasnoe.tv/files/title_images/LTV_svastika.jpeg

http://krasnoe.tv/node/13646

Bostana
5th March 2012, 23:05
The Swastika was an ancient Hindu Symbol before it stood for Fascism and White Power.

It use to stand for Peace and Good Luck.

NewLeft
5th March 2012, 23:06
The nazi symbol is on an angle and it doesn't have the "dots" (for a lack of a better word) decorations.

ВАЛТЕР
5th March 2012, 23:20
They know exactly what they meant by putting that on the wall. Latvia isn't a Hindu nation, and that symbol means the same thing in Europe no matter in what direction it is turned. Latvia has a serious fascist problem from what I understand.

Disgusting...

GoddessCleoLover
5th March 2012, 23:23
Latvia certainly has a chauvinism problem. Their treatment of ethnic Russians is unjustifiable.

rednordman
5th March 2012, 23:24
I don't think we should fly of the handle at this, despite Latvia have a problem with arsehole nationalists. Its the dots that take away the potent offensiveness of the symbol. Looks just like the Hindu one.

Sasha
5th March 2012, 23:54
Except that that are not dots, they are photographs by the look if it...

NewLeft
6th March 2012, 00:05
Except that that are not dots, they are photographs by the look if it...

You're all right, it was clearly intentional.

How many hindus/buddhists actually use the symbol today?

dodger
6th March 2012, 00:11
http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=latvian%20nazi&source=web&cd=10&sqi=2&ved=0CHMQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwsws.org%2Farticles%2F2010%2Fnov2 010%2Flatv-n20.shtml&ei=SlVVT82IBYu0iQfQmoXACw&usg=AFQjCNGYl8LPOc_RpmemgSUIwImkiRXBvQ

Plenty of Nazi stories to choose from....just fished this out to make the point

Vyacheslav Brolotov
6th March 2012, 00:21
Well is not very nice situation in Latvia. Pushing too far in this sign is in the Latvian TV station building. Fucking scaring and is nothing to proud of.http://files.krasnoe.tv/files/title_images/LTV_svastika.jpeg

http://krasnoe.tv/node/13646

And yet Latvia is in that group of Baltic nations that is always complaining about made-up "Soviet crimes." It seems like the ruling elites of those nations prefer the Nazis over the Soviets.

Bostana
6th March 2012, 00:34
Well the Nazi Swastika is pointy the other way and doesn't have dots in it,
........but then again I think they knew very well what people would view it as.

Red Storm
6th March 2012, 00:57
You can view it as scary, and rightfully so, but it is also a sign that the undercurrents of Capitalist society are playing on the Latvians(and others for that matter) the same way it did in Germany circa 1923-1933. It is reaction to the exposure to Capitalism and the like. The workers, and more importantly the capitalists, are scared of the return of a Soviet state capitalist system and they are being organized to react by the bourgeois and petit bourgeoisie just like the 20's and 30's. It is a sign that the same political climate is in existence in 2012 Latvia that existed in 1923 Germany. The Latvian Marxists need to double or even triple their efforts or the scale will tip against them.

Red Commissar
6th March 2012, 03:16
Wasn't it the Latvian president recently who that said they should honor Latvian 'volunteers' with the SS? It appears the right wing there sees the Nazi's less a 'crime' than the USSR, apparently.

Zealot
6th March 2012, 07:02
You're all right, it was clearly intentional.

How many hindus/buddhists actually use the symbol today?

The swastika is still a common symbol in Asia.

kitsune
6th March 2012, 18:06
How many hindus/buddhists actually use the symbol today?

It's quite common throughout Asia. You can see the manji on statues of Buddha, like here on the gigantic Tian Tan Buddha (http://www.globeimages.net/data/media/89/hong_kong_tian_tan_buddha.jpg) in Hong Kong. If you look at a map of Japan, you will see them used to indicate the location of Buddhist temples (http://maps.google.com/maps?um=1&hl=en&&q=Kyoto%20Japan). Very different cultural context, of course.

Zukunftsmusik
6th March 2012, 18:48
You're all right, it was clearly intentional.

How many hindus/buddhists actually use the symbol today?

It's very much used in the east, as people has pointed out. But how large is seriously the hindu or buddhist population in Latvia? When you make this symbol in Europe/western world you know what the fuck you're doing. Whether there are "dots" or not.

Zukunftsmusik
6th March 2012, 18:52
Well the Nazi Swastika is pointy the other way and doesn't have dots in it,


Actually, no. compare kitsune's picture of the buddha to this: http://www.google.no/imgres?q=nazi+symbol&hl=no&sa=X&biw=1138&bih=587&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=oo8cI3zPBq7FzM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_symbolism&docid=yEq3ps1FxaR2DM&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Nazi_swastika_clean.svg/220px-Nazi_swastika_clean.svg.png&w=220&h=220&ei=F1xWT534Dobl4QTW4fSVCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=119&vpy=151&dur=4382&hovh=176&hovw=176&tx=103&ty=92&sig=115739053593610981037&page=1&tbnh=122&tbnw=122&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0

l'Enfermé
6th March 2012, 18:56
In the link, in the OP, it says:

В таком виде работники LTV стилизовали свои же фотографии.
Огромный символ национал-социализма в самом сердце гостелевидения...
Ничего не скажешь, символично. Особенно, если учесть тот факт, что генеральный директор LTV Эдгар Котс совсем недавно пригласил на «экскурсию» и долгий разговор с журналистами депутатов Visu Latvijai! во главе с Райвисом Дзинтарсом по зданию LTV.

It means:
"In this way the workers of LTV style their photographs.
A huge symbol of national-socialism in the heart of the state-television.
What can you say, such symbolism! Especially, if you take into consideration, that the general director of LTV Edgar Kots just recently invited on a "tour" and long talk with journalists, deputies of Visu Latvijai! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visu_Latvijai%21) With Rayvis Dzintarsom[founder of Visu Latvijai]at the head of the delegation."

The picture is from the freaking lobby of the state-tv. Come on!

l'Enfermé
6th March 2012, 19:04
Guys, Latvia is Latvia, not Hong Kong or Japan. Latvia has yearly SS parades. Please.

Zukunftsmusik
6th March 2012, 19:07
The picture is from the freaking lobby of the state-tv. Come on!

It's even the state channel? :ohmy: :cursing:

What the hell is going on in Latvia? I mean, I've heard that the authorities in Balcans carried out excecutions of Jews during the war, without orders from the German occupation forces. But I would never imagine that people use nazi symbolism publicly at the state tv channel.... today.

rednordman
6th March 2012, 19:20
ffs! Even Carlsberg beer used this particular type of swastika. In fact its still there are the brewery by that giant elephant statue. I thought it was common knowledge that the nazis ripped it off. I dont like any of the symbols but its even used in the Hagakure, to represent one of the clans. But then again you are probably right and maybe not that many Latvians know much about eastern culture.

kitsune
6th March 2012, 19:20
Guys, Latvia is Latvia, not Hong Kong or Japan. Latvia has yearly SS parades. Please.

I was answering the question about how many Buddhists and Hindus use the symbol. That's why I quoted that question directly. I'm aware the usage in Asia has nothing to do with the situation in Latvia.

Zukunftsmusik
6th March 2012, 20:16
ffs! Even Carlsberg beer used this particular type of swastika. In fact its still there are the brewery by that giant elephant statue. I thought it was common knowledge that the nazis ripped it off. I dont like any of the symbols but its even used in the Hagakure, to represent one of the clans. But then again you are probably right and maybe not that many Latvians know much about eastern culture.

Of course Hitler ripped it off, no one's said otherwise. But after Hitler ripped it off the symbol has certain connotations and you simply don't use it unless for shock value or if you're a nazi.