How again is China Socialistic?

[Dark Matter]

This question really bugs me,why does china clams that they are an socialistic country (correct me if im wrong), they are running the worlds most fucked up capitalistic system ever.

and the same question valids for all the other countries that claim that they are "socialistic" north korea,cuba,.....


my history teacher could not answered this question (he just started to talk totally off topic) so i hope that you can enlighten me.


thanks


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[marl]

That's the thing - they're not.

[Mettalian]

While China is most certainly not, and similarly North Korea isn't either, Cuba is the closest thing we currently have to a socialist state. Now it isn't perfect, and their commitment to M-Lism is debatable (as is, to many, the legitimacy of M-Lism as socialism), but I would urge solidarity with Cuba at least in the name of anti-imperialism. Back to your original question, China isn't socialist at all, they are the finest example of state capitalism. At one time, under Mao, they were (again, debatably) socialist, but after Deng Xiaoping's reforms they were and are completely, undeniably capitalist. The only claim they have to socialism is that they are run by a party claiming to be socialist.

EDIT: Also Pat Metheny is awesome

[NewLeft]

It's mostly state owned. It's called socialism with Chinese characteristics..

[Nox]

Modern day China is a mixture of state and private capitalism. Back in the days of Mao it was 100% State Capitalist more or less, but since Deng the prick did his reforms, it's been gradually moving towards private capitalism.

[l'Enfermé]

While China is most certainly not, and similarly North Korea isn't either, Cuba is the closest thing we currently have to a socialist state. Now it isn't perfect, and their commitment to M-Lism is debatable (as is, to many, the legitimacy of M-Lism as socialism), but I would urge solidarity with Cuba at least in the name of anti-imperialism. Back to your original question, China isn't socialist at all, they are the finest example of state capitalism. At one time, under Mao, they were (again, debatably) socialist, but after Deng Xiaoping's reforms they were and are completely, undebatably state capitalist. The only claim they have to socialism is that they are run by a party claiming to be socialist.

EDIT: Also Pat Metheny is awesome
How could China, only having abolished feudalism in the years following 1949, being dominantly a peasant society and being ruled by the CCP bureaucracy, be "socialist"? We can't deny some of the progressive characteristics of the Mao regime(i.e, when the CCP under Mao won the civil war and took over in 1949, the average life expectancy was 35, when Mao died, it was up to 65. Giant leaps were taken in the areas of education, healthcare, etc, etc.)

Anyways, no serious person, even the side of the reaction, consider China socialist, especially no serious person in China.

[Krano]

It's mostly state owned. It's called socialism with Chinese characteristics..
That characteristic being Capitalism.

[ProletariatPraetorian]

Communist in name, Capitalist in actuality.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Recent reading has led me to conclude that the state sector in the Chinese economy is larger than I had previously realized. Nonetheless, China has simultaneously allowed its economy to serve as a source of manufactured goods produced for Western capitalists by exploited workers who are subject to appalling conditions of employment. Furthermore, the state sector is not socialistic since the workers lack over the means of production there as well as in the private sector. On balance, China may not have entirely restored capitalism like in Russia, but they are trending more in that direction than toward socialism. China is largely ruled by a combination of Party managerial elites and private capitalists, but it is by no means a workers' state.

[Mettalian]

How could China, only having abolished feudalism in the years following 1949, being dominantly a peasant society and being ruled by the CCP bureaucracy, be "socialist"? We can't deny some of the progressive characteristics of the Mao regime(i.e, when the CCP under Mao won the civil war and took over in 1949, the average life expectancy was 35, when Mao died, it was up to 65. Giant leaps were taken in the areas of education, healthcare, etc, etc.)

Anyways, no serious person, even the side of the reaction, consider China socialist, especially no serious person in China.

Exactly why I said debatably. I'm not Maoist, and I, personally, don't believe China was ever socialist, but there are those who do, and they're a significant group.