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Tovarisch
28th February 2012, 05:04
Which countries would you say are the most dangerous examples of exploitation caused by Capitalism?

My choices:

India - Deep parts of the country still practice social castes and male baby favoring. Many jobs operate in sweatshop conditions. Even the wealthiest cities have huge slums surrounding them. Google "Dharavi".

Hong Kong - Hong Kong is capitalism at its worst. Working hours are very unregulated, and many people end up working 15 hours a day in sweatshop conditions. Health and benefits are rarely enforced. The cities are overpopulated and overcrowded, taking away privacy from many citizens.

Russia - The government is dominated by a group of wealthy aristocrats. The tax rate is a very low 13%, but it evens out in other areas. Buildings are not mantained properly, and elevators can break and remain broken for weeks. Landlords are useless, and refuse to fix anything. The roads outside of Moscow are bumpy and look like shit. Employees are very stubborn about raising wages, and the common man cannot keep up with rising prices of bread and milk.

Honduras - Honduras sports the highest murder rate in the entire world. Coupled with poor working conditions and a corrupt government, Honduras is a terrible place to be poor (or even middle class for that matter).

Somalia - Look over there Republicans, NO TAXES! And I know how much you hate the government and all of its stupid regulations, so that's just another reason to move over there! Are you with me Santorum?

TheGodlessUtopian
28th February 2012, 05:16
America: blasts the shit out of any nation, capitalist or otherwise, which doesn't cave into its demands. Has engaged in genocide several times, supported the most brutal regimes in history, and has the worst human rights violations of any U.N nation. All for the money; other countries can approach what America can do exploitation wise but they will still be "second best" when compared to the U.S's sociopathic nature.

Vyacheslav Brolotov
28th February 2012, 05:28
India, no doubt about it for me. It is because of the huge wealth inequality, since I would have picked Somalia if I was looking for a nation with its entire population in poverty. I am itching for the Naxalites to return and liberate India.

Ostrinski
28th February 2012, 05:41
The entire underdeveloped world, who cannot expand capital beyond their borders or gain any leverage in the international capitalist structure.

CommunityBeliever
28th February 2012, 06:09
Every example of capitalism is bad.

enver criticism
28th February 2012, 09:36
maybe china

Nox
28th February 2012, 09:55
America: blasts the shit out of any nation, capitalist or otherwise, which doesn't cave into its demands. Has engaged in genocide several times, supported the most brutal regimes in history, and has the worst human rights violations of any U.N nation. All for the money; other countries can approach what America can do exploitation wise but they will still be "second best" when compared to the U.S's sociopathic nature.

Surely that's the best example of capitalism?

Hexen
28th February 2012, 10:05
Every example of capitalism is bad.

Quoted for truth.

Prometeo liberado
28th February 2012, 10:31
As far as "worse", certainly not the U.S. The capitalist here have done a bang up job making themselves rich while convincing the majority otherwise. Where else can you see so much wealth concentrated in so few a hands and all the while unions are dismantled, healthcare becomes increasingly more unaffordable, students can't pay for college, and still most will cheer on for more cash for war and think that by flip flopping which party is in the white house all their problems will get solved this time. I would have to say a job well done by the capitalist class. All pain and hardly a peep. You haven't seen this kind of "old world craftsmanship" since the days of Rome.:thumbup1:

bricolage
28th February 2012, 10:59
dubai.

Obs
28th February 2012, 11:21
Tovarisch, I can't help but notice that you seem to think taxes are a good thing. Please expand on this position as I eat oatmeal for dinner.

Bostana
28th February 2012, 11:23
Somalia is the best example of an Anarcho-Capitalist society. The people work so hard but it's just not enough so they turn to Gangs and Pirates. While the rich of Somalia live in luxury and could care less.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
29th February 2012, 12:59
A country cannot be an example of Capitalism.

Capitalism is the unequal distribution/accumulation of capital and the political/economic system it entails - as the name might suggest -, it is not national. It is too simplistic to say 'country x is a bigger, badder Capitalist than country y' because if you scratch under the surface, the global nature of capital ensures that it is the country that is dependent upon capital, not the other way round. This isn't to absolve countries like the US, UK, India etc. of blame for their implementation of Capitalism, but merely to suggest that we study Capitalism on a country-by-country basis is really to miss the point.

If this was meant as a 'calm down, just having a laugh thread', then surely it should be in either the chit-chat or non-political sub-forums. If it's in politics, then it deserves a political answer.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
29th February 2012, 13:00
I should add, however, that a country can be a snapshot of Capitalism. So yeah, we could look at the USA and make a comment on Capitalism, but it'd be naive to base an entire critique of the whole Capitalist system on country, or to start ranking countries on how Capitalist they are.

Connolly Was There1916
29th February 2012, 15:08
I'd say India. People further up the thread have highlighted stuff about the awful slums just outside very modernised, wealthy cities. And they have loads of sweatshops.

Arlekino
29th February 2012, 17:22
Don't forget Baltic States sucks capitalism. Rich and poor is like back from book tales stories which we used studies at schools, landlords, poor peasants and strong religious societies.

Tovarisch
29th February 2012, 23:06
Tovarisch, I can't help but notice that you seem to think taxes are a good thing. Please expand on this position as I eat oatmeal for dinner.
You're right. Public roads, public schools, and hospitals can finance themselves

Franz Fanonipants
29th February 2012, 23:12
all of them.

Ocean Seal
29th February 2012, 23:20
Capitalism is a world economy. An economy which has created a society where 83% of the world is on less than 10 dollars a day, half the world is on 2 dollars a day, and 16% of the world is living with the threat of starvation. Approximately 15 million children starve to death a year. This is the data that the capitalist class releases publicly.
Capitalism has failed, it has failed the working class worldwide, and it is getting worse. Real wages are stagnating and falling. The standard of living has fallen all of the third world. Wages for the working class in the United States have fallen in the last thirty years. Wages in China have frozen in the last decade.

Capitalism wherever implemented is a catastrophic failure.

Os Cangaceiros
29th February 2012, 23:23
Somalia is the best example of an Anarcho-Capitalist society. The people work so hard but it's just not enough so they turn to Gangs and Pirates. While the rich of Somalia live in luxury and could care less.

The rich of Somalia? How many wealthy Somalis actually live in Somalia?

Grenzer
29th February 2012, 23:33
The rich of Somalia? How many wealthy Somalis actually live in Somalia?

Probably depends on how you define rich. It's a pretty relative term, but I'd wager there are at least some people who could be considered bourgeois.

Tavarisch_Mike
29th February 2012, 23:39
The whole planet is the best exampel, since its just by looking in the big perspective that you really see how bad capitalism is evrywhere. Like the stupidity of produce some crap in Norway, send it to China to package its and sell it in holland. Waste of resources? No efficiency (according to capitalism).

But to answer the question i will also go for India. Exept the already menthioned factors i will add that its good to look at the countris food and agricultural productivity and compare that too the numbers of malnourished people and the once that dies of starvation each year.

Obs
1st March 2012, 08:56
You're right. Public roads, public schools, and hospitals can finance themselves
No, people build them. My purchasing power has to be lowered for that to happen only in capitalism.