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Das_ALoveStory
26th February 2012, 19:18
Hey comrades, this is probably going to be one of the stranger things you read today, but I really could use some advice. I'm a teenaged guy who feels ready to date (I know that sounds dumb, but you know how it is :lol:). I just want the feeling of companionship I guess.
BUT, I've encountered a big dilemma. There's one thing I'm always super passionate about: politics/socio-economics. So much so in fact, that I have difficulty being interested in conversations unless they concern those topics.
But, very few others my age are similar. I would love to date somebody who had an interest in these topics, in fact I'd probably date them even if they were capitalists because I appreciate a challenge, as long as they actually believed in it and knew what it was. (It may come as a shock, but most teens I know haven't even heard of capitalism even though they eat, sleep and live within it).
So, here's my question: where can a teenaged guy living in a smaller community find a girl that has similar interests?
TheRedAnarchist23
26th February 2012, 21:41
I am also a teenaged man how's interests are politics, but this seems to even give me more things to talk about.(maybe because I am an anarchist)
The best time to "convert" someone to a leftist philosophy is when they are in their teens, they dont have any capitalist propaganda in their heads.
So don't worry if a girl doesn't have the same political views as you, just make sure you like her, you still have time to teach her you political views.
Raúl Duke
26th February 2012, 21:45
BUT, I've encountered a big dilemma. There's one thing I'm always super passionate about: politics/socio-economics.
I'm sorry...
but this is going to set you up for failure virtually automatically.
Do you have any other interests besides that?
Deicide
26th February 2012, 21:48
There's plenty of politically conscious girls at Universities. And, of course, in political groups/parties.
Although there's more to relationships than conversations about politics, keep that in mind...
TheRedAnarchist23
26th February 2012, 21:52
I think my response was the most usefull...
Ocean Seal
26th February 2012, 21:57
Hey comrades, this is probably going to be one of the stranger things you read today, but I really could use some advice. I'm a teenaged guy who feels ready to date (I know that sounds dumb, but you know how it is :lol:). I just want the feeling of companionship I guess.
BUT, I've encountered a big dilemma. There's one thing I'm always super passionate about: politics/socio-economics. So much so in fact, that I have difficulty being interested in conversations unless they concern those topics.
But, very few others my age are similar. I would love to date somebody who had an interest in these topics, in fact I'd probably date them even if they were capitalists because I appreciate a challenge, as long as they actually believed in it and knew what it was. (It may come as a shock, but most teens I know haven't even heard of capitalism even though they eat, sleep and live within it).
So, here's my question: where can a teenaged guy living in a smaller community find a girl that has similar interests?
Don't always try talking about politics, it scares/bothers/bores most people. Try to keep an open mind and just ask out whoever feels right.
Nuvem
26th February 2012, 22:02
I'm sorry...
but this is going to set you up for failure virtually automatically.
Do you have any other interests besides that?
Don't listen to this guy. I'm in a loving relationship with a girl I met when I was only 16 and we're going on 4 years now, and we're both communists. Don't listen to rubbish about being politically passionate setting you up for failure; plenty of women have the same interests. Now, finding one who hasn't been sucked in by the liberal political sinkhole of hip activism- that makes the search more difficult.
And someone will come into this thread and say something like "politics shouldn't factor in a romantic relationship". That's a giant crock of shit and if you as a revolutionary leftist land in a relationship with some fucking flunky Obama-loving Democrat or hippie wannabe-activist, it will affect your relationship negatively. If you're actually a revolutionary, your politics should be important enough to you that you won't be able to stomach being with someone who supports imperialism or dotingly waits to be rescued by the Democrats when they have their revelation and suddenly turn into humanitarian super men. Maybe it would work for some people, but I for one can't even imagine being with some liberal.
Raúl Duke
26th February 2012, 22:04
plenty of politically conscious girls at Universities.
In where I live in my university, there ain't that many people who want to talk socio-economics/politics often. Sure, they may be a few who are knowledgeable and may talk about it; but no normal person wants to talk politics, etc all the time, most of the time, etc. As RedBrother mentioned: it bothers/bores most people if that's all you like to talk about. I hope the OP is not the kind of person who only finds politics/etc to be the only topic of discussion that is interesting because that won't fly in the real world (maybe in some special university, or among activist groups; activists like to talk politics often).
gorillafuck
26th February 2012, 22:09
So, here's my question: where can a teenaged guy living in a smaller community find a girl that has similar interests?the toilet store.
Vyacheslav Brolotov
26th February 2012, 22:10
Hey comrades, this is probably going to be one of the stranger things you read today, but I really could use some advice. I'm a teenaged guy who feels ready to date (I know that sounds dumb, but you know how it is :lol:). I just want the feeling of companionship I guess.
BUT, I've encountered a big dilemma. There's one thing I'm always super passionate about: politics/socio-economics. So much so in fact, that I have difficulty being interested in conversations unless they concern those topics.
But, very few others my age are similar. I would love to date somebody who had an interest in these topics, in fact I'd probably date them even if they were capitalists because I appreciate a challenge, as long as they actually believed in it and knew what it was. (It may come as a shock, but most teens I know haven't even heard of capitalism even though they eat, sleep and live within it).
So, here's my question: where can a teenaged guy living in a smaller community find a girl that has similar interests?
Well, I sort of had the same issue before. I am super interested in politics, rhetoric, and theory, but yet I found a really nice girlfriend. That is almost all I think about. All you have to do is keep your eyes, mind and ears open for that girl that is just right. I actually met my girlfriend in a Honors class. If you are intelligent, which it sounds like you are, you probably take Advanced courses. Those are the classes where you get the best deals: attractive girls with nice brains (not always, so be careful).
My girlfriend is actually just a liberal, but we get along just fine because we talk about politics only about 3 times a day. When you do find a girlfriend, which I hope you do, you have to restrain yourself from overwhleming her with political talk. Talk about other things, like school, TV, plans for the weekend, or your life. When everything else fails, the best things to talk to a girl about are gossip (that will probably entertain her for hours) and your extensive love for her (but do not go too far with that cause then she will get really pissed off). You just have to find a balance between smart talk and other talk. I hope you fare well in your search for a girlfriend.
P.S. Never settle for the worst you can get. Do not get a pretty girl that is stupid, or a smart girl that you do not think is attractive (yet, being attractive is not everything; so feminists, do not kill me). Always look for a companion that is just right for you.
The best time to "convert" someone to a leftist philosophy is when they are in their teens, they dont have any capitalist propaganda in their heads.
So don't worry if a girl doesn't have the same political views as you, just make sure you like her, you still have time to teach her you political views.
First of all, this sounds like you want him to purposely brainwash her, which sounds like you want him to be condescending. Condescending people are not good in relationships. Secondly, teenagers do not have any capitalist propaganda in their heads? WTF. That's just not true, at all. The teenage years are the years where you have the most capitalist propaganda because that's all they teach you in school! In school, they treat capitalism as if it were the only truth. Don't listen to this guy.
Dr Doom
26th February 2012, 22:14
jesus christ.. i hate communists sometimes :(
Quail
26th February 2012, 22:33
Maybe I've just been lucky, but my boyfriend actually likes thar I'm passionate about anarchism and feminism even if he doesn't agree with everything I say. It bothers me that some of his opinions lack the kind of compassion that communists have, vut I think he's pretty disillusioned with socialism (he is ex-SWP). I think the right person will live you for your beliegs. Don't worry if it takes a while to find them. Although I would try to find other interests too. There's more to life than politics.
GoddessCleoLover
26th February 2012, 22:37
Let me take note that if one of the women of RevLeft is posting that there is more to life than politics the OP ought to take that to heart. Women want a well-rounded man and coming off as a Communist geek will likely scare them off rather than attract any interest.
Vyacheslav Brolotov
26th February 2012, 23:03
jesus christ.. i hate communists sometimes :(
"Jesus Christ" "hate" "communists". This is a bad sentence with words that should never go together. lol:)
Ostrinski
26th February 2012, 23:18
Just wait til uni OP. Dating in high school is a drag. If you insist on dating in high school you're gonna have to re-evaluate your dealbreakers.
Das_ALoveStory
26th February 2012, 23:29
Maybe I should have rephrased my post. It's not that I'm only interested in politics, because that would be stupid, but what I'm trying to say is that I would like to find somebody who at least has a basic understanding of it, and who I can have an intelligent political conversation with every now and then.
That being said, it does annoy me when people my age just don't bother to even try to look and understand the world around them. I couldn't ever date a stupid girl, but I could most definitely date one that had an open mind and wouldn't just pull up her cell phone whenever I mentioned anything remotely political. When I look at teenage culture and all of that, nothing makes me more disappointed then their lack of will to do anything besides what advertisements and pop music tells them to do.
Yes, I'll admit, I am a bit crazy. I adore Russian culture and I study communism when I have free time. But otherwise, I'm just a normal guy. I get A's in all of my subjects, I always try to be nice to others, I have a bunch of friends, there isn't even anybody in my school who I can't get along with.
That being said, changing myself is out of the question. I refuse to date somebody who would always rather party/drink/smoke/ignoreme than spend time with me, or somebody who wouldn't ever at least attempt to be interested in politics, which is a moderate (but not embodying) factor to me.
Ostrinski
26th February 2012, 23:40
So, in a word, you're an elitist.
Das_ALoveStory
26th February 2012, 23:44
So, in a word, you're an elitist.
Do I think I'm better than everybody? Of course not. I just think that I'm fine the way I am.
Lobotomy
26th February 2012, 23:47
When everything else fails, the best things to talk to a girl about are gossip (that will probably entertain her for hours)
wha?
Nox
26th February 2012, 23:54
Find other interests, I am actually in the same dilemma as you in that my biggest interest is politics. I am trying to get interested in other things.
I had the same problem when I was younger because my only interest was WoW and that was all I ever spoke about.
There's nothing wrong with being interested in politics, but make sure you diversify your interests, because if you do that then there's a much higher chance that you will meet people that you share an interest with, and that is how relationships begin ;)
Source: I'm a 16 year old virgin who thinks he's an expert on relationships
MarxSchmarx
27th February 2012, 00:05
Get a job.
I don't know if you are old enough for it, but actually I mean in this in all seriousness.
Any job you can get as a teenager means you will be in the company of others who are in a position of being bossed around, having their labor exploited, etc... in short, of being a member of the working class. If you are a heterosexual and want to look at it as a chance to meet someone you'd want to date, get a job in a business that is likely to attract employees of the opposite sex. So if you are a male, consider being a busboy at a restaurant or even something like a daycare center. If you are a female, consider working at an auto-repair shop or or a liquor store.
What matters is that if you are interested in meeting new people, this is actually a very logical outlet.
You will immediately have something in common - a hated boss - and much outlets for systematically exploring how your surplus value is being sucked out. Your conversations to start may be over mundane things like cigarrette breaks and the shitty clocking out rules, but this is all very political. Yeah you wont' be debating Lenin's "Materialism and Empirico-criticism" or whatever from day one, but without a doubt the discussion can meaningfully focus on how working person is getting short shrift. Honestly, I can think of few other environments where anything remotely like this is possible.
revhiphop
27th February 2012, 00:16
I'm 15 and my girlfriend agrees with a lot of what I have to say, and disagrees with a lot too. She backs me fully though, especially when I put my thoughts into hip-hop. Basically, you don't necessarily need to find a communist girl, just an open minded one. Also, find other interests, lol. Conversations that revolve around one thing get boring.
Das_ALoveStory
27th February 2012, 00:17
Find other interests, I am actually in the same dilemma as you in that my biggest interest is politics. I am trying to get interested in other things.
I had the same problem when I was younger because my only interest was WoW and that was all I ever spoke about.
There's nothing wrong with being interested in politics, but make sure you diversify your interests, because if you do that then there's a much higher chance that you will meet people that you share an interest with, and that is how relationships begin ;)
Source: I'm a 16 year old virgin who thinks he's an expert on relationships
I have great appreciation for what you're saying, and I know that you are correct. Right now, the only thing that really makes me passionate is politics. I could literally talk forever about them. The biggest problem is, I can't just walk up to a girl and ask her where she stands on the political specturm because that's just asking for failure. I can talk about other subjects too of course; school and all that, but it'd be tough for me to talk about little stuff like that in the same way I do politics, because after a while I just kind of find the topic to meaningless.
When somebody my age expresses any interest in politics, they already gain quite a bit of respect from me, cause it tells me a lot about what kind of person they are.
Bronco
27th February 2012, 00:21
Insisting on making your politics an essential part of your personal life isn't a good idea really
Ostrinski
27th February 2012, 00:22
Do I think I'm better than everybody? Of course not. I just think that I'm fine the way I am.
That being said, it does annoy me when people my age just don't bother to even try to look and understand the world around them. I couldn't ever date a stupid girl, but I could most definitely date one that had an open mind and wouldn't just pull up her cell phone whenever I mentioned anything remotely political. When I look at teenage culture and all of that, nothing makes me more disappointed then their lack of will to do anything besides what advertisements and pop music tells them to do. This is a bit elitist, even if I can kind of understand where you're coming from.
Das_ALoveStory
27th February 2012, 01:22
Ah chauvinists,
Ain't nothing like 'em
First I'm an elitist and now I'm chauvinist too? That's crazy. I haven't said anything like that. Well, if your idea of an elitist is somebody who feels that people my age should start thinking for themselves and try to stray away from apathy, then I'm probably an elitist.
Not sure where you got the chauvinist idea though. The only thing I read that might sound like that was my mentioning that I would like a girlfriend who wouldn't stay glued to her cell phone when I talked to her (which I guess could sound stereotypical from a really picky way), but firstly, unfortunately I see it all of the time in other people's relationships and I don't think it's right. Secondly, guys ignore their girlfriends too with cell phones all the time too. In fact, they're probably even worse when it comes to it than girls. So I don't think it's quite fair to call me a chauvinist.
Bostana
27th February 2012, 01:33
First I'm an elitist and now I'm chauvinist too? That's crazy. I haven't said anything like that. Well, if your idea of an elitist is somebody who feels that people my age should start thinking for themselves and try to stray away from apathy, then I'm probably an elitist.
Not sure where you got the chauvinist idea though. The only thing I read that might sound like that was my mentioning that I would like a girlfriend who wouldn't stay glued to her cell phone when I talked to her (which I guess could sound stereotypical from a really picky way), but firstly, unfortunately I see it all of the time in other people's relationships and I don't think it's right. Secondly, guys ignore their girlfriends too with cell phones all the time too. In fact, they're probably even worse when it comes to it than girls. So I don't think it's quite fair to call me a chauvinist.
Don't worry dude he was referring to me
Bronco
27th February 2012, 01:34
I'm a bit confused, has a post been deleted?
Deicide
27th February 2012, 01:35
I'm a bit confused, has a post been deleted?
Yes, Bostana posted a picture.
NewLeft
27th February 2012, 01:40
Acquire good humour.. That's all I can say.
NewLeft
27th February 2012, 01:43
If you really wanna impress her, bring up marxian econmics as a conversation starter on the first date. I did this once, the girl kept nodding her head. She was definitely impressed. Just when we were about to discuss the topic of relative surplus, she had to go. I had a good time.
Ostrinski
27th February 2012, 01:43
First I'm an elitist and now I'm chauvinist too? That's crazy. I haven't said anything like that. Well, if your idea of an elitist is somebody who feels that people my age should start thinking for themselves and try to stray away from apathy, then I'm probably an elitist.
Not sure where you got the chauvinist idea though. The only thing I read that might sound like that was my mentioning that I would like a girlfriend who wouldn't stay glued to her cell phone when I talked to her (which I guess could sound stereotypical from a really picky way), but firstly, unfortunately I see it all of the time in other people's relationships and I don't think it's right. Secondly, guys ignore their girlfriends too with cell phones all the time too. In fact, they're probably even worse when it comes to it than girls. So I don't think it's quite fair to call me a chauvinist.yeah I wasn't referring to you on that one. guess ill just delete the post since bostana did the same
Das_ALoveStory
27th February 2012, 01:48
yeah I wasn't referring to you on that one. guess ill just delete the post since bostana did the same
Oh. Ok, that's alright.
So... should I just stay away from politics all together when talking to girls? Leave those discussions for when we've dated for a while?
Rafiq
27th February 2012, 01:49
That would be so boring, to be in a relationship with someone who shares your political views.
Sitting at some place for lunch:
"uhh.... Soo... what do you think about Krodstat?"
Person 2: "Um..."
Nox
27th February 2012, 01:49
So... should I just stay away from politics all together when talking to girls? Leave those discussions for when we've dated for a while?
Yup. Politics, religion and money are things that you should not discuss until you are very close with someone. I even have best friends that I don't discuss that stuff with.
I guess an exception would be if you met someone at Church (if you are Christian) or if you met someone at some sort of political rally or something.
NewLeft
27th February 2012, 01:51
That would be so boring, to be in a relationship with someone who shares your political views.
Sitting at some place for lunch:
"uhh.... Soo... what do you think about Krodstat?"
Person 2: "Um..."
lol Please, you'll go to a coffee house and the girl will order some organic shit and you'll start off like:
Moral consumerism is a demonstration that you believe capitalism is capable of forfilling the world's problems. It's postmodernism.
Communists cannot be moral consumerists because we attack the root of the problem, (of sweatshops existing, of enviromental issues, etc.).
To be a moral consumer is to bend down to the concept that these issues can be resolved within the constraint of Bourgeois society.
Rafiq
27th February 2012, 01:53
lol Please, you'll go to a coffee house and the girl will order some organic shit and you'll start off like:
You'd have to be an extremely close friend to be aware of my political views, none the less even hear me talk about them.
Bostana
27th February 2012, 01:55
yeah I wasn't referring to you on that one. guess ill just delete the post since bostana did the same
Yah, it was kinda chauvinistic I wasn't really thinking when I posted it.
Das_ALoveStory
27th February 2012, 01:56
That would be so boring, to be in a relationship with someone who shares your political views.
Sitting at some place for lunch:
"uhh.... Soo... what do you think about Krodstat?"
Person 2: "Um..."
I kind of agree :lol: I wouldn't mind if I dated a capitalist, it'd actually probably be pretty fun, as long as I suppose she wasn't a dogmatist or something XD
#FF0000
27th February 2012, 01:58
expand your interests. seriously
Nox
27th February 2012, 02:03
expand your interests. seriously
This is the answer in a nutshell. It's exactly what I plan to do on a huge scale when I start university.
Me now: School, computer, sleep, hang out with friends (rarely)
Me at university: Lecture, computer, sleep, gym, hang out with friends, go to parties, join several clubs, get a job
Das_ALoveStory
27th February 2012, 02:15
expand your interests. seriously
Sounds like a plan.
Ostrinski
27th February 2012, 02:31
Oh. Ok, that's alright.
So... should I just stay away from politics all together when talking to girls? Leave those discussions for when we've dated for a while?Hell no. But it should only be part of who you are. Finding someone who is as obsessive over the same subjects as you and has the same views as you would be fun for like a week but would get boring as you would run out of things to talk about/discuss. I think it was Bronco who said earlier in this thread that making politics central to who you are is unhealthy and I agree. It limits your friend making opportunities etc etc. People who are interested in one particular thing are pretty boring imo. I used to be the same way and I became a happier person once I became interested in music, film, etc.
Vyacheslav Brolotov
27th February 2012, 02:59
wha?
Hey, just my girlfriend. Not every girl is the same.
Das_ALoveStory
27th February 2012, 03:07
Hell no. But it should only be part of who you are. Finding someone who is as obsessive over the same subjects as you and has the same views as you would be fun for like a week but would get boring as you would run out of things to talk about/discuss. I think it was Bronco who said earlier in this thread that making politics central to who you are is unhealthy and I agree. It limits your friend making opportunities etc etc. People who are interested in one particular thing are pretty boring imo. I used to be the same way and I became a happier person once I became interested in music, film, etc.
Yeah, I agree. I do like film, music and all that stuff too, but just not as much as politics.
Anyways, I've talking to this one girl lately and things are looking pretty good. She loves history, and I really like history too, and she just added me as a friend on Facebook and sent me a message wondering what I think about French history.
:D Great success!
Raúl Duke
27th February 2012, 03:22
but what I'm trying to say is that I would like to find somebody who at least has a basic understanding of it, and who I can have an intelligent political conversation with every now and then.Good, that's the right framework; than you'll certainly fine a few in the university (but it depends on the department/major. At FGCU, the most intelligent and slightly leftish on the matter are anthropology, sociology, philosophy, certain English, and than history. Also Poli Sci. But in high school, I doubt it. I'll probably be the same in your university but each is different.
But expand your interests
Get into music, books, maybe movies.
Be "well-rounded" and more or less interesting.
Also gain experiences, explore, etc this way you have interesting life stories to share.
But you probably know this and probably already doing this.
You'll find people (well, not sure in your age range...but I guess I shouldn't make that ageist argument; however most of the younger people I met are kinda dolts) who will talk about social problems, issues, politics, etc from time to time but also would like to talk about other things besides
Le Rouge
27th February 2012, 03:38
I'm sorry...
but this is going to set you up for failure virtually automatically.
Do you have any other interests besides that?
Touché.
PC LOAD LETTER
27th February 2012, 03:44
Fuck politics.
Seriously.
I mean, unless she's a Neo-Nazi or something.
Agent Ducky
27th February 2012, 03:45
I am also a teenaged man how's interests are politics, but this seems to even give me more things to talk about.(maybe because I am an anarchist)
The best time to "convert" someone to a leftist philosophy is when they are in their teens, they dont have any capitalist propaganda in their heads.
So don't worry if a girl doesn't have the same political views as you, just make sure you like her, you still have time to teach her you political views.
Oh yes, they do. Some more than others, but.... ugh. They have shit-tons of capitalist propaganda in their heads.
#FF0000
27th February 2012, 03:49
something about this thread and some of the things being said in it are making me cringe p hard
Agent Ducky
27th February 2012, 03:53
something about this thread and some of the things being said in it are making me cringe p hard
I think all the RevLeft threads relating to dating and relationship advice are like that.
Lobotomy
27th February 2012, 04:05
Hey, just my girlfriend. Not every girl is the same.
Ok, but you said "the best things to talk to a girl about are gossip", which sounds like a generalization.
Ostrinski
27th February 2012, 04:23
Monogamous relationships are laced with internal contradictions and are therefore unsustainable.
Vyacheslav Brolotov
27th February 2012, 04:50
Ok, but you said "the best things to talk to a girl about are gossip", which sounds like a generalization.
I expected someone would say that, but that is why I bolded the word "probably" in the same sentence.
NewLeft
27th February 2012, 04:54
Monogamous relationships are laced with internal contradictions and are therefore unsustainable.
There's a tendency for relationships to fall... apart.
The Young Pioneer
27th February 2012, 05:15
I'm in love with a communism-hating, nationalist reactionary.
(But she's cute! ;) )
Seriously, though it's slightly unfortunate during our dialectical squabbles, our political differences don't have much bearing on our love for each other.
You'll be fine, too. Just don't shove it down her throat, eh?
Le Rouge
27th February 2012, 05:23
I'm such a noob at gossip. :sneaky: So i just tell funny things. It's easier for me. xD
PC LOAD LETTER
27th February 2012, 05:31
Monogamous relationships are laced with internal contradictions and are therefore unsustainable.
There's a tendency for relationships to fall... apart.
Are you guys trying to put together a left-wing self-help book?
RedAtheist
27th February 2012, 05:51
Hey comrades, this is probably going to be one of the stranger things you read today, but I really could use some advice. I'm a teenaged guy who feels ready to date (I know that sounds dumb, but you know how it is :lol:). I just want the feeling of companionship I guess.
BUT, I've encountered a big dilemma. There's one thing I'm always super passionate about: politics/socio-economics. So much so in fact, that I have difficulty being interested in conversations unless they concern those topics.
But, very few others my age are similar. I would love to date somebody who had an interest in these topics, in fact I'd probably date them even if they were capitalists because I appreciate a challenge, as long as they actually believed in it and knew what it was. (It may come as a shock, but most teens I know haven't even heard of capitalism even though they eat, sleep and live within it).
So, here's my question: where can a teenaged guy living in a smaller community find a girl that has similar interests?
I would recommend joining a political party if you haven't already.
Oh and by the way, women are individuals. There is no set characteristic that all women like. I think you would be better off looking for the one women who shares your passion for politics (and possibly some other interests too, I personally enjoy playing video/computer games) than trying to appeal to as many different girls as possible. Most of them you might not enjoy dating in the wrong run.
One more thing. Having intellectual interests and wishing other people had those same interests does not make you elist, unless you think the rest of the world is too dumb to ever take up those spheres. I personally want to live in a world where everyone thinks deeply and critically about things, instead of only focussing on shallow things (like clothing, gossip, etc.)
ClassWarMutualist
27th February 2012, 09:07
to be honest I think its best just to OCCASIONALLY talk about it, don't drown the girl in it.
you: "oh so you like McDonalds? don't you know they're union-busting shit-peddlers?"
her: "umm...yeah....I have to go, my....house is on fire...."
I just put it all in layman's terms whenever the opportunity arises and everyone just kinda knows me as that "anarchist guy", and even with that moniker I still get plenty of...dating opportunities haha. If your gonna talk politics make it easier to digest.
you: "oh you like mcdonalds? oh that's cool, I don't really like em though"
her: "why?"
you: "I'm trying to stay healthy and that stuff ain't so good for you haha, besides I like old fashioned, small restaurants better anyways"
her: "oh yeah, like 50's diners like Benson's?"
you: "yeah! we should go sometime"
I doubt I'll end up with a revolutionary girl but I'll atleast end up with a politically conscious girl. hope this helped.
Ostrinski
27th February 2012, 09:22
Are you guys trying to put together a left-wing self-help book?I was making a pun, but that's a good idea now that you mention it.
Off topic for a sec: Why is it that when you go to B&N there's like one single shelf for philosophy and right next to it self help has two fucking rows.
Decommissioner
27th February 2012, 09:29
Go to shows. You will find all sorts at punk, indie, hardcore/metal shows. Although I guess it would help to actually like those types of music, people would be annoyed that you're only there to meet women.
Also, politics really do not matter in a relationship. Unless they are a racist conservative chauvinist I really am not bothered by someone elses opinions. Also people tend to turn communist when they hang around me enough anyways :cool:
Franz Fanonipants
27th February 2012, 16:28
i hate teenagers so bad
Lanky Wanker
27th February 2012, 16:48
Just give up man, find an apolitical girl that isn't a hidden cappie without knowing it. Consider yourself lucky, you only seem to be bothered about one thing. Being anti-everything it's hard to find potential friends I might be able to connect with. People that listen to factory music and claim to follow organised religion I can't relate to on a serious level, which is basically everyone I meet in life. I'm such a fkin rebel. :cool:
i hate teenagers so bad
I'd be careful with what I say in regards to age if I were you, sir...
PC LOAD LETTER
27th February 2012, 19:11
I was making a pun, but that's a good idea now that you mention it.
Off topic for a sec: Why is it that when you go to B&N there's like one single shelf for philosophy and right next to it self help has two fucking rows.
Wage Labour and Dating
The Civil War in Your Bedroom
Relationships: Utopian and Scientific
But, yeah, I've noticed that shit. Then You kind of have to obviously grab shit from the philosophy section and flip through shit so nobody around you thinks you're looking at "How to Please Your Partner in Bed When You Have Herpes". I mean, aside from the fact that it's ridiculous that Philosophy has three tiny shelves (my local store has it on a half-shelf not the normal tall ones)
daft punk
27th February 2012, 19:16
Hey comrades, this is probably going to be one of the stranger things you read today, but I really could use some advice. I'm a teenaged guy who feels ready to date (I know that sounds dumb, but you know how it is :lol:). I just want the feeling of companionship I guess.
BUT, I've encountered a big dilemma. There's one thing I'm always super passionate about: politics/socio-economics. So much so in fact, that I have difficulty being interested in conversations unless they concern those topics.
But, very few others my age are similar. I would love to date somebody who had an interest in these topics, in fact I'd probably date them even if they were capitalists because I appreciate a challenge, as long as they actually believed in it and knew what it was. (It may come as a shock, but most teens I know haven't even heard of capitalism even though they eat, sleep and live within it).
So, here's my question: where can a teenaged guy living in a smaller community find a girl that has similar interests?
Join a workers party, ie Socialist Alternative.
DqyeBR23Kho
when I was in my twenties I copped off with a girl living down the road after a door to door paper sale. I was with her for 11 years. Later I went out with 2 others (not at the same time) who I met fairly randomly (one on a kyaking holiday, one at a party) both of whom were more or less converted to Marxism in 5 minutes.
Raúl Duke
27th February 2012, 19:43
both of whom were more or less converted to Marxism in 5 minutes.
What makes me cringe about this thread is the references to "converting" potential lovers into leftism.
When it comes to relationships, politics is mostly a distant consideration in a way. As long as they're not some right-winger or someone who badgers me to vote the democrats in I'm all good. In fact, I tend to prefer apolitical people. They like the way I view politics, and that's about it and all I need in that realm.
Once I met a woman and she liked to talk politics...I who to some extent like to talk politics over time kinda found her boring because we would not be able to talk about anything else besides with much interest. Thus, my advice from the very beginning was asking for people to have/develop/cultivate a diversity of interests.
daft punk
27th February 2012, 20:07
What makes me cringe about this thread is the references to "converting" potential lovers into leftism.
When it comes to relationships, politics is mostly a distant consideration in a way. As long as they're not some right-winger or someone who badgers me to vote the democrats in I'm all good. In fact, I tend to prefer apolitical people. They like the way I view politics, and that's about it and all I need in that realm.
Once I met a woman and she liked to talk politics...I who to some extent like to talk politics over time kinda found her boring because we would not be able to talk about anything else besides with much interest. Thus, my advice from the very beginning was asking for people to have/develop/cultivate a diversity of interests.
when I say converted in 5 minutes, I mean they were already 90% of the way there, bit like I was when someone in the Militant recruited me. All you have to do is fill in a few gaps.
The first one joined as well but in those days there was so much political activity it got a bit much.
No we didn't talk about politics all the time btw.
Lanky Wanker
27th February 2012, 20:28
when I say converted in 5 minutes, I mean they were already 90% of the way there, bit like I was when someone in the Militant recruited me. All you have to do is fill in a few gaps.
Not to say you didn't explain it well or correctly, but if they were "converted" that fast, then I wouldn't really say they they were too (for lack of a better word) smart. If you could really turn someone to support Marxism and actually truly believe it's a good thing in 5 minutes, would they not have associated themselves with a similar philosophy beforehand? Otherwise I'd think they were too easily convinced. You could probably convince a lot of people fascism is a good thing in 5 minutes if they don't have any understanding of it already.
Nicolai
28th February 2012, 00:32
Get involved in a youth party, or just talk to people. Girls aren't that different from boys, even though were socialized different (sadly). My partner is leaning leftwards, and am a bit apolitical as she finds to read philosophy and economics quite heavy (ADD), but she agrees on everything I present to her, and one of the reasons we're together (part from full-trust) is that we can talk to each other about everything, without being shunned.
Also, don't listen to the people saying you shouldn't be politically conscious with people you date. A huge factor is to get them know whom you really are, and by hiding you have a huge interest in politics isn't something you should do.
Devrim
28th February 2012, 12:31
Hey comrades, this is probably going to be one of the stranger things you read today, but I really could use some advice. I'm a teenaged guy who feels ready to date (I know that sounds dumb, but you know how it is :lol:). I just want the feeling of companionship I guess.
...
So, here's my question: where can a teenaged guy living in a smaller community find a girl that has similar interests?
Perhaps the most important thing here is that generally people don't fall meet somebody and fall in love when they are trying to find somebody. It just sort of happens when it happens. When you are 'looking' you give out a sort of air of 'desperation', which isn't at all attractive.
So don't worry it will happen when it happens.
BUT, I've encountered a big dilemma. There's one thing I'm always super passionate about: politics/socio-economics. So much so in fact, that I have difficulty being interested in conversations unless they concern those topics.
But, very few others my age are similar. I would love to date somebody who had an interest in these topics,
My partner is involved with a communist organisation, and, to be honest, it is not something that we talk about that often. When you do meet somebody I can almost gaurantee that you will have more important things to talk about than ' politics/socio-economics'.
Devrim
daft punk
28th February 2012, 12:43
Not to say you didn't explain it well or correctly, but if they were "converted" that fast, then I wouldn't really say they they were too (for lack of a better word) smart. If you could really turn someone to support Marxism and actually truly believe it's a good thing in 5 minutes, would they not have associated themselves with a similar philosophy beforehand? Otherwise I'd think they were too easily convinced. You could probably convince a lot of people fascism is a good thing in 5 minutes if they don't have any understanding of it already.
Yes they were thick as pigshit, as am I. Ok so I won a free place at the top school in England at the age of 11 and went to university a year early, dont let that bother you though.
bricolage
28th February 2012, 12:43
how much does the kronstadt rebellion weigh? I dunno but it breaks the ice.
... wait?
bricolage
28th February 2012, 12:45
when I say converted in 5 minutes, I mean they were already 90% of the way there, bit like I was when someone in the Militant recruited me. All you have to do is fill in a few gaps.
'hey babe, how about we retire to someplace quiet and nationalise the commanding heights of the economy?'
Crux
28th February 2012, 15:06
'hey babe, how about we retire to someplace quiet and nationalise the commanding heights of the economy?'
*insert obvious entryism joke*
Meanwhile, as for the OP don't be worried about scaring people away because of your interest in politics but don't be boring, do branch out your interests. basic stuff.
I do have to admit my politics has gotten me laid, if that's what you're after, on many occasions. Well, not just my politics, my awesome wit and superb dance moves as well of course. But I guess people are just hot for the trot.
daft punk
28th February 2012, 20:27
'hey babe, how about we retire to someplace quiet and nationalise the commanding heights of the economy?'
:D Now that's what i call a euphamism!
daft punk
28th February 2012, 20:30
As I said, I met one selling the paper, the other on a kayaking holiday. Variety is the spice of life and all that. I did loads of climbing in those days as well. Nearly lost no.2 on a big cliff in Wales!
ellipsis
28th February 2012, 20:31
ugg... moved to non-poli
bcbm
1st March 2012, 20:16
dating is a waste of time you will just have feelings for someone and then they will crush your will to live and leave you a broken empty shell of a human being with no interest besides drinking gin and obtaining more money to spend on gin. or you'll get bored and do that to them and then move on to the next potential soul crushing. your best bet is having sex with strangers you meet on craigslist and never have to talk to again. or just become a lone wolf and sharpen your knowledge of communism and become a monk of the revolution
Lobotomy
1st March 2012, 21:52
I expected someone would say that, but that is why I bolded the word "probably" in the same sentence.
I would address how this is still a generalization but I'm too busy reading people magazine, sorry
dating is a waste of time you will just have feelings for someone and then they will crush your will to live and leave you a broken empty shell of a human being with no interest besides drinking gin and obtaining more money to spend on gin. or you'll get bored and do that to them and then move on to the next potential soul crushing. your best bet is having sex with strangers you meet on craigslist and never have to talk to again. or just become a lone wolf and sharpen your knowledge of communism and become a monk of the revolution
Wise words.
ellipsis
2nd March 2012, 03:43
re: op
I used to want to date a girl just like me when i was in highschool, the woman I ended up with is nothing like me in soooo many ways. just find yourself a good woman, politics won't will be secondary.
arilando
3rd March 2012, 00:54
Let me take note that if one of the women of RevLeft is posting that there is more to life than politics the OP ought to take that to heart. Women want a well-rounded man and coming off as a Communist geek will likely scare them off rather than attract any interest.
Is't this post kind of sexist?
arilando
3rd March 2012, 00:56
So, in a word, you're an elitist.
Just because you dont have the same interests or the same kind of lifestyle as your average guy does't mean you are an elitist.
arilando
3rd March 2012, 01:09
I expected someone would say that, but that is why I bolded the word "probably" in the same sentence.
Which is still a sexist generalization.
arilando
3rd March 2012, 01:11
to be honest I think its best just to OCCASIONALLY talk about it, don't drown the girl in it.
you: "oh so you like McDonalds? don't you know they're union-busting shit-peddlers?"
her: "umm...yeah....I have to go, my....house is on fire...."
Are people in the us really that fucking retarded? I hope not.
arilando
3rd March 2012, 01:11
i hate teenagers so bad
Why?
GoddessCleoLover
3rd March 2012, 01:19
Am a bit perplexed at the suggestion of sexism. The fact is that most women do seek males who are well-rounded. I am not going to encourage some guy to come off as a politics geek for the sake of political correctness when my best judgment is to the contrary. If you think that a deep interest in revolutionary politics is likely to attract the ladies, state your reasons for that opinion and let the OP draw his own conclusions.
arilando
3rd March 2012, 09:16
Am a bit perplexed at the suggestion of sexism. The fact is that most women do seek males who are well-rounded. I am not going to encourage some guy to come off as a politics geek for the sake of political correctness when my best judgment is to the contrary. If you think that a deep interest in revolutionary politics is likely to attract the ladies, state your reasons for that opinion and let the OP draw his own conclusions.
Your post suggests that there is a differnece between men and women, and generalizes women.
bcbm
3rd March 2012, 20:44
Are people in the us really that fucking retarded? I hope not.
please don't use the word 'retarded' it is considered ableist language
Lobotomy
3rd March 2012, 21:17
re: "converting" people you're in a relationship with, my partner recently has become interested in communism but I never tried to make them communist in any way. I only talk about politics with my friends/partner in the form of drunken rants anyway, because generally I assume they don't want to hear it.
arilando
4th March 2012, 00:42
please don't use the word 'retarded' it is considered ableist language
Okay sorry i will use the term fucking idiot in the future.
bcbm
4th March 2012, 00:43
re: "converting" people you're in a relationship with, my partner recently has become interested in communism but I never tried to make them communist in any way. I only talk about politics with my friends/partner in the form of drunken rants anyway, because generally I assume they don't want to hear it.
yeah i think only people who have spoken politics to me drunk know what a wingnut i am and even then i'm trolling half the time like defending north korea or iran or something
Mindtoaster
4th March 2012, 00:51
Seriously, politics is like the last thing I ever talk about with a girlfriend
Fucking boring and awkward unless you're raging drunk
Lobotomy
4th March 2012, 01:06
yeah i think only people who have spoken politics to me drunk know what a wingnut i am and even then i'm trolling half the time like defending north korea or iran or something
Last time I got drunk I tried converting people to marxism on omegle, it didn't go over so well.
Misanthrope
4th March 2012, 01:11
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTio7r1dJWUvJuVvO2As9vB7J4FDZ9lq gNKyxJOrBSOO3HLE-I1
the only thing that will ever love me
but op, I'm in the same boat. I don't know what else to say other than good luck. Just remember just because they aren't communist doesn't mean they are bad people.
Kitty_Paine
4th March 2012, 22:55
Your post suggests that there is a differnece between men and women, and generalizes women.
I mean... what? lol. Is there not?
Pretending there are no differences between the sexes is just as ignorant as those who would call too much attention and judgement on those differences. Bone structures and muscle structures are different, hormone levels and biological purposes are different, etc. And obviously this often leads to men and women viewing the world a little differently; in certain aspects of course. And of course it's a generaliztion, but as long as we realize it is a generalization and don't make stupid judgement calls because of it, it's okay to admit it's true.
Seriously, politics is like the last thing I ever talk about with a girlfriend
Fucking boring and awkward unless you're raging drunk
I mean.... I think revolutionary politics and action is fun to talk about :rolleyes:
I would be pleasantly surprised and drawn to a boy/man a little more on the intellectual side who would speak of his bold revolutionary ideas and passions for fighting social injustice around the world... like a young Che or something... :wub:
Lanky Wanker
4th March 2012, 23:07
Arilando, you seem a bit (very) over the top with shouting sexist at everything. And as Kitty Paine said -- and I'm sure anyone else with a brain will tell you -- there are many differences between men and women, and realising this is not sexist.
Tavarisch_Mike
4th March 2012, 23:18
... like a young Che or something... :wub:
Now thats what i call standards! :thumbup1:
Ontopic: OP, i dont know how it is where you live, but in Sweden there are plenty of leftist youth organizations. If there are some near you you can join them and meet girls to.... discuss politics :rolleyes:
Lanky Wanker
4th March 2012, 23:21
Now thats what i call standards! :thumbup1:
Ontopic: OP, i dont know how it is where you live, but in Sweden there are plenty of leftist youth organizations. If there are some near you you can join them and meet girls to.... discuss politics :rolleyes:
That's what I need, a Swedish communist girlfriend. :drool: My best friend lives in Sweden so maybe I'll give it a go...
Kitty_Paine
4th March 2012, 23:24
Now thats what i call standards! :thumbup1:
I mean... hehe yeah...
http://bookeats.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/cheguevara.jpg
:o:laugh:
I can't help but feel you're making fun of me though... :rolleyes:
Tavarisch_Mike
4th March 2012, 23:44
I can't help but feel you're making fun of me though... :rolleyes:
Wut! Me? Im confirming that you got good taste, a handsome, intellectual revolutionary warrior who was humble and sacrificed himselfe for others. Who can resist that!? :lol:
Tavarisch_Mike
4th March 2012, 23:45
That's what I need, a Swedish communist girlfriend. :drool: My best friend lives in Sweden so maybe I'll give it a go...
In the name of interantionalism, i invite you over!
Lanky Wanker
4th March 2012, 23:54
In the name of interantionalism, i invite you over!
I wish I could say something relevant to this conversation in Swedish to make myself sound smart, but I can't so... jag har en köttbulle!
Kitty_Paine
4th March 2012, 23:54
Wut! Me? Im confirming that you got good taste, a handsome, intellectual revolutionary warrior who was humble and sacrificed himselfe for others. Who can resist that!? :lol:
A little bit of a brutal, no-nonesense, dick head too... lol. But charismatic as hell, and what you said.... so no, I could not resist... He needed a strong female by his side to level him out a little... lol
Lanky Wanker
5th March 2012, 00:04
A little bit of a brutal, no-nonesense, dick head too... lol. But charismatic as hell, and what you said.... so no, I could not resist... He needed a strong female by his side to level him out a little... lol
A strong female who er, beats up her brother *ahem*. ;)
Tavarisch_Mike
5th March 2012, 00:07
I.. jag har en köttbulle!
deep, and true words.
Lol! :laugh:
Tavarisch_Mike
5th March 2012, 00:09
A little bit of a brutal, no-nonesense, dick head too... lol. But charismatic as hell, and what you said.... so no, I could not resist... He needed a strong female by his side to level him out a little... lol
Thats what she said! :D
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