Favourite Communist Leader?

[NorwegianCommunist]

I was wondering who are your favourite leader?
For example Stalin, Mao, Hoxha, Lenin etc?

And why do you like that person the best?
What improved during his leadership etc
I just want some different opinions and simply learn something more about them.

Have a good day!

[Deicide]

None of them. I don't hero worship.

They're all evolved apes like me and you.

[Franz Fanonipants]

hero worship is the worst part of the Left

[NorwegianCommunist]

You don't have to worship any of them.

Do you have any favourite? Best politician in you opinion etc?

[The Cheshire Cat]

None of them. I don't hero worship.

They're all evolved apes like me and you.

He never said worship, he was asking who is your favorite, that's something completely different.

My favorite is Lenin, but I am still in the learning proces so I can't give very good reasons. I also respect Fidel Castro for kicking Batista out of Cuba, and giving Cuba free housing, free and nearly the best healthcare and education of the world, and almost eliminating the illiteracy rate.
And for opposing imperialism.

[DarkPast]

And for imposing imperialism.

One of the funniest typos ever.

[The Cheshire Cat]

One of the funniest typos ever.

I'm sorry, english is not my main language. I now know it should have been opposing, but what does imposing mean?

[Deicide]

He never said worship, he was asking who is your favorite, that's something completely different.

I don't do favorites. They're all flawed, some more than others. We can, however, learn from each of them.

For the sake of the thread, I'll say Stalin. Stalin has proven, to me at least, that humanity is incompatible with totalitarian regimes. He's shown the end result of authoritarian marxism.

It should serve as a grave warning to all marxists, present and future. One man or an elite group, cannot be transformed into infallible entities.

[piet11111]

I'm sorry, english is not my main language. I now know it should have been opposing, but what does imposing mean?

The exact opposite :lol:

opdringen is het woord wat volgens mij het dichts bij imposing past.

[GoddessCleoLover]

My favorite theoretician is Antonio Gramsci, which probably comes as no surprise.

My favorite political leaders were Rosa Luxemburg, Alexander Schliapnikov, and collectively the "Group of Fifteen" who constituted the Democratic Centralism faction of the RCP (b), who stood for democracy within the Party and against the slide of the Party toward dictatorship that began in 1921 and culminated with the personalist dictatorship of Stalin.

[The Cheshire Cat]

The exact opposite :lol:

opdringen is het woord wat volgens mij het dichts bij imposing past.

Haha, okee... Dat is inderdaad niet het woord wat ik bedoelde, bedankt!

[Ostrinski]

Dzerzhinsky. Because he fucked shit up.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Wasn't "Iron Felix" as well as Mikhail Frunze likely done in by Stalin as part of his strategy to consolidate control over party leadership? I have read that Dzhierzhinsky was developing doubts about Stalin's leadership and just like Lenin had come to the conclusion that the party needed a different Gensek.

[The Idler]

My favorite communist leader is the working-class.

[Bostana]

The Proletariat is mine.

[Franz Fanonipants]

barack obama

[GoddessCleoLover]

Alexander Schliapnikov, MIkhail Tomsky, Gavril Miasnikov, and Leonid Serebriakov were proletarians who joined the Party and ended up being purged by Stalin.

[seventeethdecember2016]

I like Leninist ideals, but I don't worship the man.

[Ostrinski]

My favorite communist leader is the working-class.

The Proletariat is mine.

How inventive.

[Babeufist]

Babeuf - Blanqui - Bukharin!
And many others like Tito or Ho Chi-minh...

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

No gods, no masters!

If you're asking which activists and/or theorists I have particular respect for, I'd list James Connolly, Seamus Costello, Daniel De Leon, Frederick Engels, Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Marx, Paul Mattick, and Anton Pannekoek.

[Ismail]

Wasn't "Iron Felix" as well as Mikhail Frunze likely done in by Stalin as part of his strategy to consolidate control over party leadership? I have read that Dzhierzhinsky was developing doubts about Stalin's leadership and just like Lenin had come to the conclusion that the party needed a different Gensek.Actually Dzerzhinsky died of natural causes shortly after he made a speech attacking Trotsky.


Alexander Schliapnikov, MIkhail Tomsky, Gavril Miasnikov, and Leonid Serebriakov were proletarians who joined the Party and ended upon being purged by Stalin.Tomsky and Schlyapnikov were rightists backed by the trade union bureaucracy and attacked in Lenin's time. Myasnikov fled from Lenin's USSR. I don't know much about Serebryakov except that he's the only relevant person here, since he was executed after the Moscow Trials and identified with the Trotskyists. Stalin doesn't have much to do with the prior three "workers." In Albania those in the leadership with a working-class background, like Koçi Xoxe, Koço Tashko, etc. tended to be either pro-Yugoslav and/or (after 1956) pro-Soviet revisionism. Just because they came from working-class origins doesn't mean much.

[human strike]

There are many people who inspire me, but leaders can go shoot themselves.

[RadicalRed]

The cult of the leader is so 20th century.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Ismail, how in the world can you refer to Alexander Schliapnikov as a rightist trade union bureaucrat? Secondly, Schliapnikov was shot in 1941 despite never being tried. Tomsky OTOH did end up being one of the leaders of the "right opposition", and committed suicide rather than undergo the ordeal of torture, trial, and execution. You are correct in posting that Miasnikov left the Union during Lenin's tenure, but to my mind Lenin erred in suppressing the Democratic Centralists, Workers' Oppositionists, and the Workers' group to which Miasnikov belonged.

[Ismail]

Ismail, how in the world can you refer to Alexander Schliapnikov as a rightist trade union bureaucrat?He was on the left-wing of the "Workers' Opposition," you are correct. As a note, though, Trots often claim that the group's former members actually benefited (at least temporarily) under "Stalinism," that ex-"Workers' Opposition" members often held high posts in the late 20's and early 30's, etc. supposedly because of their bureaucratic nature.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Actually that is more descriptive of the career of Leonid Serebryakov, who like Pyatakov and others repented of Trotskyism and rose to fairly high positions in the era of the first and second Five Year Plans only to end up being purged and shot as members of the "Trotskyite parallel center". Alexander Schlyapnikov AFAIK never repented and confessed to any "deviations" in order to attain office under Stalin. He was an honest proletarian revolutionary who suffered the injustice of imprisonment and ultimately was murdered because he refused to support the dictatorship of the party over the working class.

[bcbm]

colonel muammar gaddafi, rip

[Brosip Tito]

Why is this thread in politics, and not chit-chat?

Anyways, I hate them all.