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marl
20th February 2012, 03:25
Alright, let me start. I'm a piece of shit. I'm white, bourgeoisie, consumerist shit. I'm 15 and I go to a shitty-ass Suburban highschool which I'm failing, and I don't even know why I'm failing. I know I'm a communist, but I don't even know what fucking communism is. I know anarchy shouldn't work - but it's the only fucking thing that makes sense right now. I have to get a job (hopefully at a dump like Gamestop), which I don't mind, but I don't know what to fucking spend my money on. Drugs? I'm on fucking probation. If I want a video game or food, I don't have to cover that because I'm spoiled shit. I want to throw rocks and molotovs, but I can't fucking do that. I get pissed off over the littlest things. So what the fuck do I do in the next 4 years? I doubt I'll get into any college. I don't want to join the army because fuck that, dude.

Rafiq
20th February 2012, 03:30
Engels owned a factory and he didn't hate himself...


Nothing wrong with consumerism. I like video games and shit, man.

Ostrinski
20th February 2012, 03:32
Lifestyle choices shouldn't be your priority right now. You should be focused on educating yourself. Don't throw molotovs or rocks or do drugs while on probation. That negates common sense. If you're frustrated with your environment, if you feel like there isn't much to live for, then I can personally say that educating yourself is existentially liberating.

marl
20th February 2012, 15:20
Thanks. Right now I'm getting tested for learning disabilities, we'll see how it goes.

thriller
20th February 2012, 15:49
Alright, let me start. I'm a piece of shit. I'm white, bourgeoisie, consumerist shit. I'm 15 and I go to a shitty-ass Suburban highschool which I'm failing, and I don't even know why I'm failing. I know I'm a communist, but I don't even know what fucking communism is. I know anarchy shouldn't work - but it's the only fucking thing that makes sense right now. I have to get a job (hopefully at a dump like Gamestop), which I don't mind, but I don't know what to fucking spend my money on. Drugs? I'm on fucking probation. If I want a video game or food, I don't have to cover that because I'm spoiled shit. I want to throw rocks and molotovs, but I can't fucking do that. I get pissed off over the littlest things. So what the fuck do I do in the next 4 years? I doubt I'll get into any college. I don't want to join the army because fuck that, dude.

How do you know your a communist if you don't know what communism is? Btw, just because you are white doesn't make you a piece of shit. Also, I don't think you are bourgeois if you are just 15 and in high school. You don't own a business and employ others, in fact you are looking for employment. As Brospierre said, read, learn, discover in whatever way works. I know learning disabilities can fucking suck and may even lower your self-esteem more. But try to find the best type of learning style that works for you.

dodger
20th February 2012, 16:18
Alright, let me start. I'm a piece of shit. I'm white, bourgeoisie, consumerist shit. I'm 15 and I go to a shitty-ass Suburban highschool which I'm failing, and I don't even know why I'm failing. I know I'm a communist, but I don't even know what fucking communism is. I know anarchy shouldn't work - but it's the only fucking thing that makes sense right now. I have to get a job (hopefully at a dump like Gamestop), which I don't mind, but I don't know what to fucking spend my money on. Drugs? I'm on fucking probation. If I want a video game or food, I don't have to cover that because I'm spoiled shit. I want to throw rocks and molotovs, but I can't fucking do that. I get pissed off over the littlest things. So what the fuck do I do in the next 4 years? I doubt I'll get into any college. I don't want to join the army because fuck that, dude.

Quite clearly you have to grow up! Hell take yer time, I was never in much of a hurry. Don't bother hating yourself, there are plenty out there who will do that for you.Save yer money get some travelling under yer belt. Big world out there. Don't bring shit home I dare say folks have enough crap in their lives. One thing I learnt from probation , never listen to so called friends....learn to say no to idiocy. Easier said than done. It'll be you who has to do YOUR time not THEM. Think for yourself. Get plenty of female company into your life. They often as not have another take on things, listen. Nothing wrong with getting pissed over small things, it's the big things you need a clear head for. Just spotted your last post, you say you are being tested. WELL WE HAVE ALL TYPES HERE, I AM ONE OF THE TORTOISES, THERE ARE PLENTY OF HARES HERE TOO.(bat-shit crazy) Tested, good, it will enable you to carry on learning at your own pace. Maybe learn a trade, whatever you are good at. Have fun marl !!!

daft punk
20th February 2012, 16:41
Hmm, stay off drugs and molotov cocktails for a kickoff! Drugs will fuck up your life, trust me, seen it so many times. And socialists dont throw cocktails. Not usually anyway.

I would say, try to educate yourself about socialism, read some of the shorter bits by Trotsky. They are all online. You could even read his autobio, My Life. A fascinating read. He started as a full time revolutionary aged about 17 and promptly got jailed.

And try to think of a job you would like to do.

Learning difficulties isn't the end of the world. I can tell by the OP that you don't remotely have severe leaning difficulties anyway.

Why do you think you might be struggling at school?

What do you think you are good at, or are interested in?

Try not to let shit get to you, things will sort themselves out.

No, I wouldn't advise the army. I knew a lad who joined, very young, got shot at, didn't like it.

Veovis
20th February 2012, 16:45
Alright, let me start. I'm a piece of shit. I'm white, bourgeoisie, consumerist shit. I'm 15 and I go to a shitty-ass Suburban highschool which I'm failing, and I don't even know why I'm failing. I know I'm a communist, but I don't even know what fucking communism is. I know anarchy shouldn't work - but it's the only fucking thing that makes sense right now. I have to get a job (hopefully at a dump like Gamestop), which I don't mind, but I don't know what to fucking spend my money on. Drugs? I'm on fucking probation. If I want a video game or food, I don't have to cover that because I'm spoiled shit. I want to throw rocks and molotovs, but I can't fucking do that. I get pissed off over the littlest things. So what the fuck do I do in the next 4 years? I doubt I'll get into any college. I don't want to join the army because fuck that, dude.

You seem smart and cogent, so it might not be learning disabilities. It might just be a lack of giving a damn. Happened to me when I was in school and college - a lot of different things were going through my head. I was trying to figure out why I should care about school when it most likely wouldn't get me a decent job, and even if it did, how I wouldn't be able to go into a different field without doing the whole damn thing over again. Forty years of the same thing every single day. That's the quickest way to learn to hate something you love.

ETA: Let me add that there are other ways to effect change other than throwing rocks or molotovs. Join a radical group of likeminded people. There's bound to be more than a few in Boston. Also, stay away from drugs unless it's cannabis. Most of that stuff will screw you up. And stay away from the armed forces unless you really feel like being part of the first wave of the invasion of Iran. We need you here so you can take the streets and protest the upcoming war!

marl
20th February 2012, 17:42
Thank you for the replies. I'd like to be clear I haven't actually thrown rocks - I said I wanted to (despite knowing that it causes nothing). I also haven't done any drugs other than cannabis, except Salvia (it's a long story for the probation, basically a teacher told on me because I was pretending to make a beaker look like a bong with a friend (clearly a sense of humor is illegal)). Although I've considered the army, as stated, I don't want to end up in Iran because Iranians are tough and not like the sectarian Iraqis. I'm pretty sure I have this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia), because I've failed the last 6 quarters of math, got D-'s in the 4 before that, and never was very good at it to begin with. Hell, I couldn't even read clocks until I was 13. I don't know what I'm good at, I intend to work at Gamestop (for the free game rentals) and maybe become a history teacher one day. Even if I want to, I'm unable to read texts for a prolonged period of time due to distractions/interest loss.

Thanks and peace.

Veovis
20th February 2012, 17:52
Even if I want to, I'm unable to read texts for a prolonged period of time due to distractions/interest loss.

Thanks and peace.

Ah, this. I've been having this problem, too. Believe it or not, I think it might be due to being on the internet for too long. Reading on the internet is a lot different than reading a book. On the internet you're reading lots of little texts and jumping around all over the place. If you get used to it, it can make reading a longer text nearly impossible. Try staying offline for about a week, maybe two. See if you're ability to stay focused on longer texts improves.

daft punk
21st February 2012, 13:25
Thank you for the replies. I'd like to be clear I haven't actually thrown rocks - I said I wanted to (despite knowing that it causes nothing). I also haven't done any drugs other than cannabis, except Salvia (it's a long story for the probation, basically a teacher told on me because I was pretending to make a beaker look like a bong with a friend (clearly a sense of humor is illegal)). Although I've considered the army, as stated, I don't want to end up in Iran because Iranians are tough and not like the sectarian Iraqis. I'm pretty sure I have this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia), because I've failed the last 6 quarters of math, got D-'s in the 4 before that, and never was very good at it to begin with. Hell, I couldn't even read clocks until I was 13. I don't know what I'm good at, I intend to work at Gamestop (for the free game rentals) and maybe become a history teacher one day. Even if I want to, I'm unable to read texts for a prolonged period of time due to distractions/interest loss.

Thanks and peace.
Just make sure the weed doesnt become regular. Dont worry too much about the long term just yet, just get a job in a game shop seeing as that's what attracts you. You are interested in socialism so read some bits on that, eg My Life which is very readable. You can soon get to grips with the history of the 20th century. Read some basic Marxism so you have the analytical tools eg this

http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1939/12/abc.htm

The ABC of
Materialist Dialectics

The Idler
21st February 2012, 19:19
Speak to a few people about it, friends whose opinions you respect, adults, or if you think your malaise has poltical roots, then perhaps your local socialist grouping?
And don't worry about reading long texts, there's plenty of good socialist magazines. Since we're in the age of the internet, there's plenty of good videos and audio too.

Nox
21st February 2012, 19:50
Just remember Communism isn't a lifestyle, so you can be from any background it doesn't matter. I'm kind of in the opposite situation, I come from a poor-ish background, I'm doing well at school and plan to go to college but I feel exactly the same as you, I have no motivation whatsoever to succeed in this system...

Igor
21st February 2012, 20:10
I would say, try to educate yourself about socialism, read some of the shorter bits by Trotsky.

Are you fucking kidding me? Even in threads like this?

Prometeo liberado
21st February 2012, 20:24
Lifestyle choices shouldn't be your priority right now. You should be focused on educating yourself. Don't throw molotovs or rocks or do drugs while on probation. That negates common sense. If you're frustrated with your environment, if you feel like there isn't much to live for, then I can personally say that educating yourself is existentially liberating.

Oh my! My young friend you should be hurling rocks in anger. You're 15! You shouldn't take anything more serious than the malaise you feel right now. You are entirely to young to want to "existentially" liberate yourself. What are you camus jr. here? Hangin out at starbuck's? I get it, suburbia sucks. So give in to the dark side and live a little. Get a crappy job and save, take your parents money and travel. Call me when you get to Perth or wherever and we'll go from there. Focus people.

Nicolai
29th February 2012, 02:48
Are you fucking kidding me? Even in threads like this?

I don't see what the problem with educating himself is. And reading spite it be Trotsky, Lenin, Marx, Engels, Rosa Luxembourg, Marx, Mao, Chomsky, Naomi Klein ect ect he will make his own conclusions on what he believes in (assuming you reacted on he mentioning Trotsky).

As for starters, reading the Communist Manifeto isn't so bad for new beginners. Get the audio book if you got issues concentrating; it helps for me at least.

Enragé
29th February 2012, 03:23
Do what feels right. Hang out with friends, get your first (second, third fourth) boy/girlfriends), play guitar if you're into that. Drink alcohol (but not too much), experiment with drugs (but as little as possible, that includes weed = brainkiller if you do it too much). Make sure you dont get arrested whatever you do.

I hate reading long stuff too, nowadays a bit less than before but still. I got my political/theoretical education on this forum, and i beat the shit out of most people in discussions for a large part because of that (cuz you're not restricted to one tendency here you can steal what you like from all of 'em, and you learn how to discuss).

Also, around your age i played this alot http://www.cybernations.net/ . Make your nation, join an alliance or make your own. Look for the Libertarian Socialist Federation if it still exists and tell them NKOS said hi :P

Oh and listen to Korn's early work, will suit the 'im a piece of shit' period you're going through.


and by the way, anarchy does work :) anarchist theory is usually more fun to read too, especially the insurrectionalist texts (as long as they are understandable) cuz they are often very 'LETS FUCK SHIT UPPP!'. Insurrectionalism's definitely not my (favourite) cup of tea, but it is fun to read and does have some nice insights from time to time.


ps: you're 15, you're supposed to have no clue what to do, especially long-term. I basicly didnt plan more than two weeks ahead until i was 22 :P

svenne
29th February 2012, 04:54
It's kinda not cool whining about having parents with material wealth and stable lives. It kinda sticks in my eyes when i've spent all my almost non-existing resources of money on food the last two years.
Anyway, the teenage years ends, sooner or later. It gets better. Or at least, if it gets worse, it's going to be worse in a different way. Try to have fun in the meantime. Join a subculture, consume yourself happy, stop thinking about the world - it ain't gonna end tomorrow.

daft punk
29th February 2012, 12:56
Queue violins.
Leave the poor guy alone ffs. If you cant say something nice, keep it zipped, this is a 15 year old beginner. And don't neg rep me behind my back, if you have a problem, say it in public.

Ocean Seal
29th February 2012, 14:57
I don't see what the problem with educating himself is. And reading spite it be Trotsky, Lenin, Marx, Engels, Rosa Luxembourg, Marx, Mao, Chomsky, Naomi Klein ect ect he will make his own conclusions on what he believes in (assuming you reacted on he mentioning Trotsky).

As for starters, reading the Communist Manifeto isn't so bad for new beginners. Get the audio book if you got issues concentrating; it helps for me at least.
Its the fact that Daft Punk devotes every single post to Trotsky.

Hey I need some help sorting out my life....
Read some Trotsky.

daft punk
1st March 2012, 08:59
says the person who labels himself Trotskyo-Stalinist, which is oxymoronic.

Ostrinski
1st March 2012, 09:06
Q: How would one go about finding low-fat methods to making deserts?

A: My Life by Trotsky, contains all the information you need.

Igor
1st March 2012, 16:40
Its the fact that Daft Punk devotes every single post to Trotsky.

Hey I need some help sorting out my life....
Read some Trotsky.

Not to mention the only book he bothered to mention was Trotsky's autobio, not any of his more famous theoretical works. A god damn autobio. This guy is seeming more and more like some kind of bizarre Trotskyist Ismail.

Franz Fanonipants
1st March 2012, 16:46
go to college, get an education no one who matters gives a shit about your current class or race really.

you're super young, and hopefully you have a long life ahead of you. get your shit together.

bricolage
1st March 2012, 17:03
says the person who labels himself Trotskyo-Stalinist, which is oxymoronic.
it's a joke, read my life, trotsky explains them there.

revhiphop
1st March 2012, 17:09
Alright, let me start. I'm a piece of shit. I'm white, bourgeoisie, consumerist shit. I'm 15 and I go to a shitty-ass Suburban highschool which I'm failing, and I don't even know why I'm failing. I know I'm a communist, but I don't even know what fucking communism is. I know anarchy shouldn't work - but it's the only fucking thing that makes sense right now. I have to get a job (hopefully at a dump like Gamestop), which I don't mind, but I don't know what to fucking spend my money on. Drugs? I'm on fucking probation. If I want a video game or food, I don't have to cover that because I'm spoiled shit. I want to throw rocks and molotovs, but I can't fucking do that. I get pissed off over the littlest things. So what the fuck do I do in the next 4 years? I doubt I'll get into any college. I don't want to join the army because fuck that, dude.

Ok dude, check it. I'm a 15 year old Marxist-Leninist and I've figured out some key tips on enjoying life. The only difference between you and I is I'n not on probation... yet ;) Here's some tips on enjoying life:

1. Find a girlfriend. This had made life a lot more enjoyable. Get some condoms.
2. Smoke weed. Don't listen to these guys who think it kills brain cells or makes you lazy or some shit. Just be smart about it. (also Salvia? Hardcore bro :cool:)
3. Party as hard as you fucking can. Go to a rave (you don't have to do ex but once or twice won't do much damage).
4. Take the advice of whoever said "give into your darkside a little" (Can't remember who posted that, sorry)
5. If you're gonna do some harder drugs besides weed, set some lines for yourself. Eg: in no way will I ever be smoking meth, shooting heroin, smoking crack, doing PCP, etc (others I won't do)
6. Fuck shit up dude. We're at an age where the world is seemingly ours to control. You can do a lot.
7. Throw some molotovs if you want. I just made one monday but I fucked it up :( (threw it at a pile of bricks in the snow and missed) NOT AT PEOPLE.
8. Find music you like. I've been rapping since I was in sixth grade and I love it. Music can be a great hobby or passion for some people.
9. Pull pranks. Fuck with people. Fuck up some snobs day. Just choose people who aren't being victimized by capitalism.
10. Volunteer. Help someone out.
11. Go to a protest. Get involved. I've gone to plenty and the Occupy Protest was by far the funnest. Wait, no, anti-scientology ones were better. Don't incite violence.
12. If you wanna learn about communism, check out the Communist Manifesto. Also read up on books by Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, Luxembourg, Castro, Che, Subcommandante Marcos, etc. Find out where you stand. I was an anarchist and then became a Maoist.
13. Get into college. Almost forgot, this over everything. If you have to give up a fun aspect of your life (like weed or partying) to get a good education, so be it.


I don't see what the problem with educating himself is. And reading spite it be Trotsky, Lenin, Marx, Engels, Rosa Luxembourg, Marx, Mao, Chomsky, Naomi Klein ect ect he will make his own conclusions on what he believes in (assuming you reacted on he mentioning Trotsky).

I popped Stalin in there for you, Trot.

Ostrinski
1st March 2012, 17:16
Yeah. Definitely don't listen to that guy.

revhiphop
1st March 2012, 17:17
Yeah. Definitely don't listen to that guy.

You must have had a boring 15 year old life if you did none of those things.

Franz Fanonipants
1st March 2012, 17:21
Yeah. Definitely don't listen to that guy.

this is good advice

most of your peers are pretty dumb

daft punk
1st March 2012, 17:38
Not to mention the only book he bothered to mention was Trotsky's autobio, not any of his more famous theoretical works. A god damn autobio. This guy is seeming more and more like some kind of bizarre Trotskyist Ismail.

It's a good book for a beginner ffs. Easy to read, good historical overview. Fucking hell whats wrong with you lot? The book is number 31 in Amazon on Russian Revolution, Trotsky's highest rated. The only other book like this that I know of is Castro's book of the same title, but of less Marxist theory in that obviously.

My Life is pretty essential for understanding certain periods, as you get a quick overview.

Honestly, the quality of posting on this thread is pretty piss poor.

An autobio by one of the world's leading revolutionaries should be one of the first things a young revolutionary reads, and your mocking of that idea shows your utter political bankrupcy.

Also, can you not read? I posted a link to an article on dialectical materialism. Is that not a theortetical work?

All this *****ing, how to put people off. What the fuck is your problem?

Omsk
1st March 2012, 17:41
*****ing


Such laguage is not acceptable on a forum for revolutionary leftists and people against sexism.

NorwegianCommunist
1st March 2012, 17:43
Hey comrade!
If you only are 15 I doubt that you are a capitalist. Unless you own your own bussiness and have workers to do all the job.
But I started getting interessted in communism when I was your age, and Im 16 years old now, and I have learn a bit, but not much because communism is a BIG field to learn about.

Take your life slowly, don't think so far ahead, live one day by another and take it easy. You are only going to stress yourself and get in a bad mood if you think to much about what you are going to do.

Thats my opinion =)

Omsk
1st March 2012, 17:47
You should read Dialectical and Historical Materialism (http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm) (September 1938) a theoretical work by Joseph Stalin,the leader of the USSR and one of the greatest Marxist-Leninists who not onl...

Hey wait.

This guy is asking for advice on lifestyle,and took a generally positive and normal stance here,non-sectarian.

Maybe i should just give him some advice?


NO

And as i was saying,Joseph Stalin,the main figure in the monolithic party of the Bolsheviks and the guiding figure of the proleteria..etc etc


This is esentially you daft punk.

Tavarisch_Mike
1st March 2012, 20:44
OP sounds like you need some action and goals.

For goals i say you continue with youre studies and learn more about communism. Or think about some travel you want to do after highschool (i know feels like the end of time right know, but it isnt) and if you get a part time job you can start to save up now.
For action, try some martial art? Crazy ass concerts, parties just try out and explore.

daft punk
1st March 2012, 20:54
You should read Dialectical and Historical Materialism (http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm) (September 1938) a theoretical work by Joseph Stalin,the leader of the USSR and one of the greatest Marxist-Leninists who not onl...

Hey wait.

This guy is asking for advice on lifestyle,and took a generally positive and normal stance here,non-sectarian.

Maybe i should just give him some advice?


NO

And as i was saying,Joseph Stalin,the main figure in the monolithic party of the Bolsheviks and the guiding figure of the proleteria..etc etc


This is esentially you daft punk.

10/10 for comedy value there Omsk, that certainly brightened up my evening.

"I know I'm a communist, but I don't even know what fucking communism is. I know anarchy shouldn't work - but it's the only fucking thing that makes sense right now."