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[Human Lefts]

Hi Earthlings,

I'm here to stay up to date on current events, get in on some good discussions, and maybe resources for my non-cyberspace stuff.

Username
Human Lefts -- a play on human rights and being leftist.


Stuff I'm involved with or into
Undocumented people in the US
LGBT adults and youth
US Veterans
Women with experience in intimate partner violence
I just really get into anything that involves marginalized and oppressed populations
Anti-hierarchical systems (I hate bureaucracies!)
Participatory democracy, not representative democracy
Government transparency
African-American and Latino cultures, also Korean stuff like fan death :lol:

Political tendency
Marxist. I don't know enough to have a solid stance other than that.

Revolutionaries I like
Dr. Huey P. Newton
Ernesto Che Guevara
Salvador Allende
Jurgen Habermas

Revolutionaries I don't like
The Kim Il-Sun line
Pol Pot
Gorbachev :p

Mixed feelings
Lenin
Stalin
The Castros

Don't know enough about
Mao Zedong
Ho Chi Minh
All the other Asian and Eastern Europeans not mentioned

Getting into
Peter Kropotkin -- I'm trying to read Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution, but I'm extremely busy with other things, so progress on this is extremely slow.

I would like to know more about
Anarchist theories
World Bank and IMF

Interesting fact
The majority of the things that happen across the world, I initially think they are covert US operations.

Curse-word-infused, emotional statement
Fuck Israel and its bullshit "defenseless victim" stance. Stalin fucked up on that one.

[daft punk]

welcome to revleft!

[Agent Ducky]

Welcome!
The thing about stuff across the world being covert US operations... I doubt it because the thing about the US government is that they're pretttyyy incompetent so something tells me they're not responsible for a bunch of the stuff happening across the world if they can't even keep control of their own country half the time.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Interesting. Why do you like Habermas? I admit I'm not super knowledgeable about him, What little of his sociology work I've read seem very good, Politically though he seems to be a reformist, not a revolutionary.

Anyway, you sound very interesting. Welcome. You can get me a Dos Equs, thanks.

[Prometeo liberado]

Welcome comrade!

[The Jay]

Welcome to the site!

[Igor]

An absinthe, gracias.

[Human Lefts]

Thanks all!


Interesting. Why do you like Habermas? I admit I'm not super knowledgeable about him, What little of his sociology work I've read seem very good, Politically though he seems to be a reformist, not a revolutionary.

Anyway, you sound very interesting. Welcome. You can get me a Dos Equs, thanks.

Habermas is modern in that he understand pluralism, but still focuses on unity through speaking and collaboration...sooooo practical. It's like science and pluralism can work together.

People are rational, not in that they have knowledge which is old school, but that they are capable to apply it once they have it. This leads to a principle that all people should have access to knowledge (at least for me it does).

Both of the above things are more possible than ever due to the Internet. For example, we could all communicate with each other on this site about our goals, reach some type of agreement that is beneficial to the participating parties using the vast amount of knowledge accessible through the rest of the Internet. But, we aren't to agree like in a group think fashion (just to agree), we have to have discourse.

So, this is in keeping with a pull type of society over a push. People state what they want; they don't take what they are given. For example, let's look at production before the internet. Companies would market their products and push it on the people. You could only buy what someone else chose to produce. However and currently, we are starting to some more pull. People are finding what they want and getting thanks to people being able to communicate much easier. So for me, I don't shopping. I don't walk around a mall and look for something that catches my interest. I only buy when I need something and I will look for it. I'm demanding what I want.

The same goes for news. TV news now is entertainment (and yes, propaganda like always). but it is entertainment because I can find the news that I want so easily through google. So the news we see is on demand for many of us too.

One thing I would like to see happen is for political representative to start doing this. I think Ron Paul has jumped on that, but it hasn't worked. Maybe the mainstream media is more powerful than the internet in that aspect still for whatever reasons.

Anyway, side stuff over.

He also does some cool stuff with hermaneutics/communication stuff...kinda like Chomsky. For example, he says that when people talk,they state a 1) personal belief to 2) create a relationship with a listener, to 3) tell them about the world: 1) inside, 2) convince, 3) outside things. Lol. I think that's trippy.

My favorite part though is that people can argue with each other. I can say something, you could disagree with it, and then I can take what you said into consideration and reply....eventually, we should be able to reach a mutual understanding on some stuff, which allows for each person to develop their own stance but at the same time, people can work together to accomplish benefits for all.


So, that's a quick thing on what I like about him from what I remember learning in a class I once took a while back.

[Tavarisch_Mike]

Good intro, and you seem to be involved in a lot of things thats good. Welcome!

[Lanky Wanker]

Human Lefts, smart one. :D

[Human Lefts]

Good intro, and you seem to be involved in a lot of things thats good. Welcome!

Yes! Lot's of time busy doing stuff. I rarely get to put 100% into anything which sucks cause I'm not very satisfied with my final products. If fact, I don't even think of my products as final, but as the best I could do with the resources I had at the time. It doesn't leave much time for entertainment, but that's the way I like it.

[Raúl Duke]

Hello


An absinthe, gracias.

Lo mismo, por favor

[Deicide]

Johnny walker with coke please.

:D

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

Welcome, Comrade!

First lesson:p:


Hi Earthlings,
Revolutionaries I don't like
The Kim Il-Sun line
Pol Pot
Gorbachev :p

Gorbachev was not a revolutionary, he was a reformist asshole.:)