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Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 01:01
So I just saw a thread on another site where a girl was asking if guys would expect their girlfriends to change their last names once married. I said if I ever did get married I'd want her to keep her own name because she's not a piece of furniture I own (I could've gone full on commie on this one, but you know what peepz be like dawg). This made me think though, and this has probably been asked a million times already: how would you (personally) go about naming your kids? Parents, how did you go about giving your kids a last name? Giving them a double-barelled name would generate extremely long titles for grandchildren if the pattern continued, and spreading them evenly across the kids would feel like splitting the kids up to me. It seems as though the main function family names have served is to turn women into the property of men, though it would be a bit harder identifying people without them.
Ostrinski
19th February 2012, 01:04
I will name my child The Hawk.
Bostana
19th February 2012, 01:06
I will name my child The Hawk.
No he should give him a Communist name,
The Red Hawk.
Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 01:09
No he should give him a Communist name,
The Red Hawk.
I should've known this thread would go down comedy lane :rolleyes:. I'm tempted to make a bad joke... Ah what the heck, we should copy the Sikhs with the whole Singh trend, but replace it with Marx.
Nox
19th February 2012, 01:11
I wouldn't care which surname my future takes when we marry. Heck, we might even compromise and go for a brand new one. As for the kids, I think a double barrel surname would do just fine.
Veovis
19th February 2012, 01:13
Disregard family names, acquire patronyms/matronyms and toponyms.
Michal, son of Andrew of the Windy City
Diana, daughter of Sally of the Bay Area
Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 01:17
I wouldn't care which surname my future takes when we marry. Heck, we might even compromise and go for a brand new one. As for the kids, I think a double barrel surname would do just fine.
I did think of a new name as a possible option, but didn't reckon many people would want to leave theirs behind. As for double-barelled names, I'll feel sorry for my kids if the mother has a Chinese name or something.
The Young Pioneer
19th February 2012, 01:24
Considering I named my hamster Rodion Romanovic Raskolnikov, I should probably not have kids. Or let the spouse name them.
RedAnarchist
19th February 2012, 01:39
If I did get married, my future partner could choose to keep their name, take mine or adopt a new one, whilst I would probably either double-barrel or merge ours, or maybe take theirs. They don't have to take mine unless they want to.
Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 02:01
If I did get married, my future partner could choose to keep their name, take mine or adopt a new one, whilst I would probably either double-barrel or merge ours, or maybe take theirs. They don't have to take mine unless they want to.
Yeah, I figured pretty much everyone on here would share the same view on the partner's name thing. Merging names sounds interesting though, it could probably generate some pretty explicit names. :D
Nox
19th February 2012, 02:18
I did think of a new name as a possible option, but didn't reckon many people would want to leave theirs behind. As for double-barelled names, I'll feel sorry for my kids if the mother has a Chinese name or something.
I've never heard of a couple getting a new name, but I think it might be possible, and it's a good solution if the male has an embaressing surname, or if there's disagreements about whose name to take. That being said, I do know someone who took his wife's surname after marriage.
On a random note, I want to give me kid the most epic middle name ever.
Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 02:27
I've never heard of a couple getting a new name, but I think it might be possible, and it's a good solution if the male has an embaressing surname, or if there's disagreements about whose name to take. That being said, I do know someone who took his wife's surname after marriage.
I suspect it happens a lot, we just don't hear about it. In fact, I think I might go to Russia in search of a girl with a communist surname just so I can change mine.
On a random note, I want to give me kid the most epic middle name ever.
Care to share any current ideas? This should be interesting lol.
ColonelCossack
19th February 2012, 15:32
I wouldn't care which surname my future takes when we marry. Heck, we might even compromise and go for a brand new one. As for the kids, I think a double barrel surname would do just fine.
But if everyone did that, after a few generations you would have very long surnames, eg. Peter Roberts-Smith-Eddison-Montegue-Beckett-Harvey-Oswald-Baldwin-Carbone, to name a random example, which is a very long name.
Nox
19th February 2012, 15:44
Care to share any current ideas? This should be interesting lol.
Marx :P
RedAnarchist
19th February 2012, 15:53
But if everyone did that, after a few generations you would have very long surnames, eg. Peter Roberts-Smith-Eddison-Montegue-Beckett-Harvey-Oswald-Baldwin-Carbone, to name a random example, which is a very long name.
I think the longest example I've heard of, from Britain at least, has four names barrelled.
PhoenixAsh
19th February 2012, 16:23
I think the longest example I've heard of, from Britain at least, has four names barrelled.
ahhh....well.....onze again ze Germanz....
I am not making this up....longest name ever:
Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvin John Kenneth Lloyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor William Xerxes Yancy Zeus Wolfe*schlegelstein*hausenberger*dorffvoraltern*wa ren*gewissenhaft*schaferswessen*schafewaren*wohlge pflege*und*sorgfaltigkeit*beschutzen*von*angreifen *durch*ihrraubgierigfeinde*welche*voraltern*zwolft ausend*jahres*vorandieerscheinen*wander*ersteer*de m*enschderraumschiff*gebrauchlicht*als*sein*urspru ng*von*kraftgestart*sein*lange*fahrt*hinzwischen*s ternartigraum*auf*der*suchenach*diestern*welche*ge habt*bewohnbar*planeten*kreise*drehen*sich*und*woh in*der*neurasse*von*verstandigmen*schlichkeit*konn te*fortplanzen*und*sicher*freuen*anlebens*langlich *freude*und*ruhe*mit*nicht*ein*furcht*vor*angreife n*von*anderer*intelligent*geschopfs*von*hinzwische n*sternartigraum, Senior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_name
The Douche
19th February 2012, 16:27
I want to name my kids shit like "Victory" or "Liberty".
dodger
19th February 2012, 17:28
What good is a shit hot, swanky, posh name , without a family crest............ Bourgeoisie 'ead gripped by the talons of a red eagle....above a scroll.........
NO SEVERANCE PACKAGE........
**************
Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 17:39
ahhh....well.....onze again ze Germanz....
I am not making this up....longest name ever:
Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvin John Kenneth Lloyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor William Xerxes Yancy Zeus Wolfe*schlegelstein*hausenberger*dorffvoraltern*wa ren*gewissenhaft*schaferswessen*schafewaren*wohlge pflege*und*sorgfaltigkeit*beschutzen*von*angreifen *durch*ihrraubgierigfeinde*welche*voraltern*zwolft ausend*jahres*vorandieerscheinen*wander*ersteer*de m*enschderraumschiff*gebrauchlicht*als*sein*urspru ng*von*kraftgestart*sein*lange*fahrt*hinzwischen*s ternartigraum*auf*der*suchenach*diestern*welche*ge habt*bewohnbar*planeten*kreise*drehen*sich*und*woh in*der*neurasse*von*verstandigmen*schlichkeit*konn te*fortplanzen*und*sicher*freuen*anlebens*langlich *freude*und*ruhe*mit*nicht*ein*furcht*vor*angreife n*von*anderer*intelligent*geschopfs*von*hinzwische n*sternartigraum, Senior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_name
What in the name of fuck? :confused:
gorillafuck
19th February 2012, 17:53
don't care what my future spouse does with her last name. she'd probably end up taking mine like most women do but if she doesn't want to then whatever.
I don't want kids.
piet11111
19th February 2012, 18:45
Considering I named my hamster Rodion Romanovic Raskolnikov, I should probably not have kids. Or let the spouse name them.
Badass name for a hamster.
PC LOAD LETTER
19th February 2012, 19:56
If I get married, it's really up to her, although I'd prefer she keep her own last name. I don't even really like the idea of going through some big shit like marriage to make it "official".
I guess any sons would have my last name and daughters hers? Fuck, I don't know.
There's a naming tradition in my family. Sons get the first and middle names of their father/paternal grandfather/great-grandfather/etc, daughters get the first and middle names of their mother/maternal grandmother/great-grandmother/etc. I guess that works for given names.
ColonelCossack
19th February 2012, 20:00
ahhh....well.....onze again ze Germanz....
I am not making this up....longest name ever:
Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvin John Kenneth Lloyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor William Xerxes Yancy Zeus Wolfe*schlegelstein*hausenberger*dorffvoraltern*wa ren*gewissenhaft*schaferswessen*schafewaren*wohlge pflege*und*sorgfaltigkeit*beschutzen*von*angreifen *durch*ihrraubgierigfeinde*welche*voraltern*zwolft ausend*jahres*vorandieerscheinen*wander*ersteer*de m*enschderraumschiff*gebrauchlicht*als*sein*urspru ng*von*kraftgestart*sein*lange*fahrt*hinzwischen*s ternartigraum*auf*der*suchenach*diestern*welche*ge habt*bewohnbar*planeten*kreise*drehen*sich*und*woh in*der*neurasse*von*verstandigmen*schlichkeit*konn te*fortplanzen*und*sicher*freuen*anlebens*langlich *freude*und*ruhe*mit*nicht*ein*furcht*vor*angreife n*von*anderer*intelligent*geschopfs*von*hinzwische n*sternartigraum, Senior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_name
Da fok
Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 22:07
I don't even really like the idea of going through some big shit like marriage to make it "official".
Me neither, weddings always seem so boring and unoriginal. Marriage itself comes with few benefits...
Bostana
19th February 2012, 22:08
If I have a Kid I will give him a proper name.
Joseph Vladmir Karl Enver Stalin Hoxha
Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 22:39
If I have a Kid I will give him a proper name.
Joseph Vladmir Karl Enver Stalin Hoxha
What if it's a girl? Gotcha there, pal.
PC LOAD LETTER
19th February 2012, 22:55
What if it's a girl? Gotcha there, pal.
He could take a cue from Aldous Huxley ... Lenina Crowne
Ismail
19th February 2012, 23:21
What if it's a girl? Gotcha there, pal.In Albania a notable name was Marenglen, which meant Marx-Engels-Lenin, and was unisex.
Lanky Wanker
19th February 2012, 23:28
In Albania a notable name was Marenglen, which meant Marx-Engels-Lenin, and was unisex.
Damn, this takes the joke to a whole new level.
Lenina Rosenweg
19th February 2012, 23:32
If I get married, it's really up to her, although I'd prefer she keep her own last name. I don't even really like the idea of going through some big shit like marriage to make it "official".
I guess any sons would have my last name and daughters hers? Fuck, I don't know.
There's a naming tradition in my family. Sons get the first and middle names of their father/paternal grandfather/great-grandfather/etc, daughters get the first and middle names of their mother/maternal grandmother/great-grandmother/etc. I guess that works for given names.
As I understand Icelandic tradition has different surnames for boys or girls. A daughter would take the first name of her mother and would be, for example "Sigurd Brigidsdottir" while a son could be "Sven Olaffson".
I think "Lenina" is a cool name. While I like Brave New World, its too bad Huxley made that name seem somehow sinister and toltalitarian.While Huxley has a lot to say though his career, he was a British aristocrat and his class bias definitely shows. I loved "Island" though.
Danielle Ni Dhighe
19th February 2012, 23:43
As a communist and a genealogist, I don't think there's an easy answer.
Bostana
20th February 2012, 00:59
What if it's a girl? Gotcha there, pal.
Nexhimje Ekaterina Nadezdha Hoxha
Pretty Flaco
20th February 2012, 01:05
We could both come up with a new last name when we get married! Problem solved.
For example -> Mary Jones and Jack Daniels get together. When they get married they become Mr. and Mrs. Engels.
edit
i think somebody already mentioned this. lol
Agent Ducky
20th February 2012, 03:23
If I ever got married, my spouse and I would both change our names to something badass like "Storm". Pull a Stalin. "My name sucks, I'm going to change it to MANOFSTEEL" And then the kids would have badass last names. And there would be no gender issues. BOOM!
Although at this point I really don't see myself getting married.
Agent Ducky
20th February 2012, 03:25
What if it's a girl? Gotcha there, pal.
Josephine Vladmiriam Karla Enveronica Stalinette Hoxharriet.
FUCK YEAH.
#FF0000
20th February 2012, 07:42
i'm naming my kid massacre
Welshy
20th February 2012, 07:49
In Albania a notable name was Marenglen, which meant Marx-Engels-Lenin, and was unisex.
Congratulations you just named all of my future children.
Ismail
20th February 2012, 10:42
Congratulations you just named all of my future children.Proletar was also a name used, and I think it was unisex as well.
Omsk
20th February 2012, 11:33
Vladimir got really famous after 1944,Josif too.
Olentzero
20th February 2012, 11:39
Don't Spanish-speaking countries use both father's and mother's last names as a full name, but then they just go by their father's last name in everyday conversations and such? And they didn't stream a whole bunch of ancestor's surnames onto it, either,
Daniel Ortega, for example - his full surname was Ortega y Saavedra. So, y'know, you could pull some shit like making the kids' surnames "Smith & Jones" (I mean, how cool would it be to have an ampersand in your name?) and then just go by Smith for everyday purposes.
Or make their mother's surname (one of) their middle names. My grandmother had a brother named that way, seemed to work fine for everyone involved.
Oh yeah, also Ninel was a very popular girl's name in Russia after the revolution. I know a Ninel here in Stockholm, but he's a dude.
Agent Ducky
20th February 2012, 19:55
Proletar was also a name used, and I think it was unisex as well.
Except to me Proletar sounds like a giant communist dinosaur that ravages capitalist cities Godzilla-style.
"I AM PROLETAR! I DESTROY YOUR CITY FOR THE GOOD OF THE PROLETARRRRIAT! RAWRRRRRRRR!"
RedAnarchist
20th February 2012, 20:38
As a communist and a genealogist, I don't think there's an easy answer.
I'm a genealogist myself, so it's certainly something that would affect my interest. However, I think people could just record some extra information on a birth certificate or something.
sanpal
22nd February 2012, 11:10
I want to name my kids shit like "Victory" or "Liberty".
Hm, how the things are repeating in history again.
After Revolution in Russia 1917 there were a lot of new names given to kids by their parents, the names which were not typical in traditional sense. Young parents full of enthusiasm to build a new socialist state gave theirs kids a bit funny names which were influenced with revolutionary or scientific progress themes. Two sisters of my mother (cousins) have the names "Alpha" and "Omega" and her brother was "Progress". One girl who learned in school with my mother had name "Dazdraperma" - shortening from "Da Zdravstvuet Pervoe Maya" ("Long Live The May 1").
I didn't hear any "Svoboda" (Liberty")or such but perhaps it could be.
BTW "Victor" and "Victoria" are traditional russian names.
sanpal
23rd February 2012, 10:46
I've forgotten to add the name "Avangard" ("Vanguard") which I heard recently on TV. The person who has this fun name belongs to the old russian generation too.
hatzel
23rd February 2012, 11:12
"Family names lol what the hell are they?" said X ben Y...
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