Theistic Satanism

[godlessfilthycommiedog]

I've noticed a lot of RevLefters are involved in Satanism. I have nothing against it, of course, being an atheist. I believe it's probably one of the best belief systems out there :D And I get that, since a lot of RevLefters are metalheads as well, there'd bound to be some Satanists. What are some positives about it? I mean, sure, it promotes individuality and other awesome stuff like that, but if you are a critic of all other religions, why choose this one? I've had some Satanists tell me I should spice up my life by Satan worshiping. (Same thing with neopagans telling me I should worship more gods and give a kick to my boring atheist life :lol: ). In any case, my basic question is why Satanism? What in specific made you choose it? :)

[eric922]

I highly doubt the posters here are theistic Satanists. They likely are talking about Lavey's Church of Satan, where Satan is just a symbol for indulgence and rebellion and not a real figure.

As to theistic Satanism, aside from Hollywood and perhaps a few fringe groups, no one worships the Biblical Satan, as in the enemy of God. Theistic Satanists worship him in his guise of Lucifer, the Lightbringer. He is the bringer of knowledge. Some may also view him in the Old Testament light as a servant of God, meant to test and help them grow as individual. Remember the concept of Satan as the great enemy of God and men is a purely Christian one, it isn't found in the Old Testament. Anyway here is a link to Wikipedia about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_Satanism

[Franz Fanonipants]

all leftcoms are satanists

[sithsaber]

Wait seriously? Its crazy that a purge addicted site like Revleft has no problems with worshiping the evil one

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Wait seriously? Its crazy that a purge addicted site like Revleft has no problems with worshiping the evil one

Consider this a verbal warning for Satanophobia.One more remark like this and you will either be restricted or banned!

Seriously though, scarletghoul has a "Dialectical Satanists" group here, meant more as a joke.. There are a number of Satanists on RevLeft. LeVayanism is pro-capitalist, so isn't too popular. here.

For what its worth, I recently downloaded the Gospel of Judas. It looks like a good read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas

[Prometeo liberado]

Please define "satanism" please. Are you talking about the Angel of the Morning Star or Alistair Crowley nonsense?

[MustCrushCapitalism]

I have quite a few neopagan friends. Norse paganism is plain awesome, once you find the non-white supremacist variants.

http://img.anongallery.org/img/3/0/jesus-promised-the-end-of-all-wicked-people-odin-promised-the-end-of-all-ice-giants.jpg
http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/christianity-my-god-has-a-hammer-your-god-was-nailed-to-a-cross1.jpg

[Franz Fanonipants]

Wait seriously? Its crazy that a purge addicted site like Revleft has no problems with worshiping the evil one

therefore all leftcoms should be purged

[The Jay]

You sir, are a smelly troll, let a moderator smite thee. Amen.

[Prometeo liberado]

Please define "satanism" please. Are you talking about the Angel of the Morning Star or Alistair Crowley nonsense?
Anyone?

[Zostrianos]

Anyone?

The primary branch of modern Satanism is the Laveyan one, which is essentially an ultra-materialistic, libertine philosophy, wherein Satan is a symbol of liberation and indulgence - they're essentially atheists, they don't believe in the supernatural nor in Satan as an independent entity or being, but merely as a symbol. Lavey's 9 Satanic statements sums it up nicely:

1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychicvampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!

(q.v. The Satanic Bible)

Aleister Crowley's Thelema was a driving force in the development of modern Satanism, but it has a different paradigm.

[Prometeo liberado]

I like the whole Angel of the morning star thing more I guess. Won't worship man so he takes his boys downtown to get it on. Much more playable to the kids.

[Zostrianos]

Here's the Satanic Bible on pdf:
http://www.thesatanicbiblefree.com/files/Download/The%20Satanic%20Bible%20Ebook.pdf

[Welshy]

This is just my opinion but my main issue with atheists who take to satanism is that even though they may not be christians, muslims or practice judaism anymore, they are still limiting themselves to the abrahamic world view and are just taking the opposite side of it. I just don't understand why if someone wants to be attached to a religion of sorts and don't want to be christian why they don't just go to a non ethnic-nationalist neo-pagan group/religion where they have all the good stuff that is with in satanism without being just a form of inverted christianity.

I'm also not a fan of Wicca. Non white supremacist Slavic Paganism all the way! (though in all seriousness I'm an atheist with a slight interest in Slavic Paganism and buddhism, not an actual neopagan)

[Franz Fanonipants]

This is just my opinion but my main issue with atheists who take to satanism is that even though they may not be christians, muslims or practice judaism anymore, they are still limiting themselves to the abrahamic world view and are just taking the opposite side of it.

what a maroon

hey bro did you know satanism is literally ayn rand worship?

[The Douche]

Who is a satanist on here? I challenge you to name one, of the "many" you claim to exist.

[Franz Fanonipants]

Who is a satanist on here? I challenge you to name one, of the "many" you claim to exist.

its me

[The Douche]

its me

Banned for lying.

[Franz Fanonipants]

Banned for lying.

which reminds me the op seems to think that "individualism" is a broad base good when are we going to all just post from a single user account

[Welshy]

what a maroon

hey bro did you know satanism is literally ayn rand worship?

I am well aware, but they still do so with in an abrahamic framework and I doubt that they would be doing that if it were for the fact objectivism is (despite when some christians I know would like to believe) opposed to Christianity and basic christian morals.

[Franz Fanonipants]

I am well aware, but they still do so with in an abrahamic framework and I doubt that they would be doing that if it were for the fact objectivism is (despite when some christians I know would like to believe) opposed to Christianity and basic christian morals.

lol what

ayn rand hated religion

[Thirsty Crow]

all leftcoms are satanists
Oh HELL yes, I've just drank, what, 500 gallons of baby blood mixed with goat feces!

[Welshy]

lol what

ayn rand hated religion

And that would be relevant if I was arguing that ayn rand was a satanist.

[teflon_john]

aye this shxt corny as hell, dudes.

[GoddessCleoLover]

i doubt that Satan has any place amongst those of us who subscribe to a materialist conception of history.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Oh HELL yes, I've just drank, what, 500 gallons of baby blood mixed with goat feces!

How was it? The reason why I ask, I've been reading Bordiga recently and I'm just wondering what I might be in for? Is there anything else I should know?

[Искра]

I'm satanist.... Menocchio and me worhsip the evil one

z3aN9oplvaE

GOD IS DEAD
SATAN LIVES
(HAIL SATAN!)

[Thirsty Crow]

How was it? The reason why I ask, I've been reading Bordiga recently and I'm just wondering what I might be in for? Is there anything else I should know?
You might need a puking bucket to handle such sweet transcendent delight

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GXLgQGPKWIA/TU-h-zpIDtI/AAAAAAAACkc/ojEwT7fhNCQ/s400/mr_creosote.jpg

And on the subject of Unholy Amadeo, keep in mind that the Satanic Dogma is actually INVARIANT - heresies are not welcome (unless you prefer your liver - the most potent of human organs in black magick - plucked out of your body, eaten and disgorged by a 100 virgins).

[∞]

I just like Satan because hes my favorite superhero/rebel. Hes not real though.

[∞]

lol what

ayn rand hated religion

Thats ironic.

[∞]

Shaytuun doesn't qualm about morality.
Shaytuun acts out of anger, and carries a sword to fight injustice.

Comrade Lucifer was the very first Marxist. He taught man critical thinking by convincing Adam (Eve if you read the Bible) to eat the apple.

He is the true god. Yahweh is an asshole.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Fact: Layvean Satanists and theistic Satanists usually hate each other.

(I had a website to link which showed this but I can't seem to find it now)

[Krano]

What are Satanists exactly? i don't know much anything about them just seen some stories about some people who sacrificed some children to satan or something similar.

[Yuppie Grinder]

all leftcoms are satanists

Nev.

It's a childish belief system based on extreme egotism and detachment from reality, theistic satanism or the folks who don't actually believe in Satan but just use him as a symbol for individualism. These people are only worsening Marxism's already awful public image.

[Yuppie Grinder]

i doubt that Satan has any place amongst those of us who subscribe to a materialist conception of history.

thank you

[Krano]

Nev.

It's a childish belief system based on extreme egotism and detachment from reality, theistic satanism or the folks who don't actually believe in Satan but just use him as a symbol for individualism. These people are only worsening Marxism's already awful public image.
Sounds like fascism :lol:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

What are Satanists exactly? i don't know much anything about them just seen some stories about some people who sacrificed some children to satan or something similar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism
http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_Satanism
http://www.modernchurchofsatan.com/grotto/index.php

[The Jay]

Worshiping a non-existent diety, even just for fun, is like serving real tea to an imaginary friend. It may be fun, but it's still pointless. If you want to spice up your life (horrible advice incoming) you should start cooking up crystal meth and sell it on the sidewalk of the police station. You're life would be very interesting for a short time but at least you won't be chanting to the air.

Ps: don't make meth

[Tim Cornelis]

Fun fact: Satan does not exist

At least, it never says so in the Bible. If we look at the Hebrew definition of "satan" we find it literally means "adversary" (or "enemy" or "opponent"). The Bible speaks about "an adversary", and if we look at the context in which "satan" is used it is used as a generic term applied to just any random enemy and a different person almost each time.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Didn't Alleister Crowley have ties to Oswald Moseley and the British Union of Fascists. Didn't Hitler and Goebbels commit suicide on Walpurgisnacht? Let the Nazis and Fascists worship Satan, we ought to stick to reason and science. I know that some posters are referring to "lucifer" as a light-bringer and hence an embodiment of reason and science, but given the historical links between the occult and Nazism IMO those of us on the Left ought to give the whole thing a wide berth.

[Thirsty Crow]

Didn't Alleister Crowley have ties to Oswald Moseley and the British Union of Fascists.
Though, old Al wasn't a satanist. There was no thing as satanism back in his day.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Perhaps we can say that Crowley was a protean "Satanist"?

[Pretty Flaco]

when i hear "satanism" i think a those kids that tag 666 on the side of buildings or scrape it onto desks.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Me too, and I fervently hope they grow out of it before they start torturing small animals or lighting fires.

[Thirsty Crow]

Perhaps we can say that Crowley was a protean "Satanist"?
You could say that, but then the term would loose its coherence and become pretty much useless.
Crowley was an occultist drawing upon traditions which have absolutely nothing to do with satanism as discussed here - among others, on western hermeticism and qabbalah (don't associate it with Madonna's qabbalah :laugh:).

As far as modern satanism goes, the so called theistic variant believes in a spiritual, transcendent force/entity which it associates with satan in one way or another, while laveyans are practical atheists (egotists above all else) who employ ritual as psychological drama, without any belief in the transcendent. Both have very, very little to do with Crowley, except for occasional references since he was so very cool and the wickedest man alive etc.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Didn't Alleister Crowley have ties to Oswald Moseley and the British Union of Fascists. Didn't Hitler and Goebbels commit suicide on Walpurgisnacht? Let the Nazis and Fascists worship Satan, we ought to stick to reason and science. I know that some posters are referring to "lucifer" as a light-bringer and hence an embodiment of reason and science, but given the historical links between the occult and Nazism IMO those of us on the Left ought to give the whole thing a wide berth.

Many people and events have links to "less seemly" parts of history... in my time on the Satanic forums I encountered reactionaries but never any Nazis; I have more often encountered the garden variety progressive and sometimes the occasional leftist though.

Saying a group of people should completely disregard a ideology based on hazy connections is simply silly.

[gorillafuck]

I've noticed a lot of RevLefters are involved in Satanism.no, sorry but you've definitely noticed incorrectly.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Me too, and I fervently hope they grow out of it before they start torturing small animals or lighting fires.

A real satanist would do either... you are using the stereotype version as the real deal when such is not the case; under such thought, to use a parallel, all Anarchists would supposedly be angsty teenagers who love to write the anarchy symbol.

[The Young Pioneer]

When people think Satanism they usually think of something really metal and badass like virgin sacrifice and eating babies. \m/

Unfortunately, Satanism is more about self-indulgence (hence the Ayn Rand references) and repelling the general values of other organised religions in favour of carpe diem. Which is fairly logical but not really very Marxist; the Satanic Bible basically says it's okay to walk over the downtrodden towards your own success.

Like anything, it's got good and bad ideas.

[∞]

when i hear "satanism" i think a those kids that tag 666 on the side of buildings or scrape it onto desks.

And on their arms, and their notebooks...:blushing:

[Franz Fanonipants]

basically just black magick hustla and whatever ridiculous-creepy commie sex cult/cult of the self he's involved with

e: wait basically just being a leftcom on revleft which brings us right back to my first post

[Astarte]

Didn't Alleister Crowley have ties to Oswald Moseley and the British Union of Fascists. Didn't Hitler and Goebbels commit suicide on Walpurgisnacht? Let the Nazis and Fascists worship Satan, we ought to stick to reason and science. I know that some posters are referring to "lucifer" as a light-bringer and hence an embodiment of reason and science, but given the historical links between the occult and Nazism IMO those of us on the Left ought to give the whole thing a wide berth.

Pardon, but are you talking about? Lucifer as a source of Enlightenment, Knowing and all around benevolence to mankind is well known - even Robespierre was keen to it - as well as most people involved in the revolutions of the "age of enlightenment" the funny thing is though, that Jesus himself has been theologically compared to Lucifer - I believe it was in the gnostic Gospel of Thomas in which he said "we must be clever as serpents and innocent as doves".

The Right constantly attempts to steal the Left's tactics, such as the vanguard party, and yes, even occultism and even atheism - perhaps since Ayn Rand was an atheist communists should abandon atheism even if it is what they truly believe - your argument makes no sense - Freemasonry, the driving force of the Enlightenment revolutions hinged around occultism that was essentially Luciferian.

[Franz Fanonipants]

perhaps since Ayn Rand was an atheist communists should abandon atheism even if it is what they truly believe

yes
they should

[black magick hustla]

basically just black magick hustla and whatever ridiculous-creepy commie sex cult/cult of the self he's involved with


making out with girls from the internet

[black magick hustla]

and listenin to brujeria \m/

[black magick hustla]

Sólo la nieve sabe
la grandeza del lobo
la grandeza de Satán
vencedor de la piedra desnuda
de la piedra desnuda que amenaza al hombre
y que invoca en vano a Satán
señor del verso, de ese agujero
en la página
por donde la realidad
cae como agua muerta.

[∞]

I don't speak spanish. what does that say?

[black magick hustla]

Only the snow knows
the greatness of the wolf
the greatness of satan,
vanquisher of the naked stone,
that naked stone that threatens man,
and that invokes in vain Satan,
lord of the verse, of that
hole in the page
were reality
oozes like dead water.


its a poem of some heroin addict in some loony bin in spain

[Franz Fanonipants]

making out with girls from the internet

decadencia norteamericana

[Prometeo liberado]

Me too, and I fervently hope they grow out of it before they start torturing small animals or lighting fires.

Although they should never, ever stop breaking stained glass windows.

[Pretty Flaco]

fuck i hear they like fuck goats or some shit like that shit.

[Yuppie Grinder]

The only "satanist" I've ever met was this fat ginger kid in the seventh grade who would draw swastikas on things and get detention for calling people "niggers". The little fucker eventually got expelled after he got caught skipping class to play pokemon by himself in the janitors closet for the second time. For a while, this guy formed my conception of what "satanists" are. Then I came across satanists on the internet, and all they did was reaffirm my negative preconceptions about their kind.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

The only "satanist" I've ever met was this fat ginger kid in the seventh grade who would draw swastikas on things and get detention for calling people "niggers". The little fucker eventually got expelled after he got caught skipping class to play pokemon by himself in the janitors closet for the second time. For a while, this guy formed my conception of what "satanists" are. Then I came across satanists on the internet, and all they did was reaffirm my negative preconceptions about their kind.

You must have not met some very ideological sound Satanists then.

[Thirsty Crow]

yes
they should
And become catholics, eh? Do I sense the foul stench of preachig here perhaps?

[Rafiq]

Ah Satanism, that cheap brand of "Just became an atheist" insecurity used to piss off Christians, and parents, rebelling against your former beliefs.

Satanism is overrated and lame.

Satanism is only good for trolling christians. It ends there.

[Bostana]

Satan is a Capitalist,

But.......
http://mattstone.blogs.com/photos/christian_art_political/jesuswasacommunist_by_fbarok.jpg

[Franz Fanonipants]

And become catholics, eh? Do I sense the foul stench of preachig here perhaps?

no mostly i think they should probably just jump off the planet

[Sinister Intents]

The Right constantly attempts to steal the Left's tactics, such as the vanguard party, and yes, even occultism and even atheism - perhaps since Ayn Rand was an atheist communists should abandon atheism even if it is what they truly believe - your argument makes no sense - Freemasonry, the driving force of the Enlightenment revolutions hinged around occultism that was essentially Luciferian.
There are a lot of Freemasons in the town I live in. They're all incredibly racist and nationalistic, does that make them satanists.

[Azraella]

There are a lot of Freemasons in the town I live in. They're all incredibly racist and nationalistic, does that make them satanists.


Must be the place you live in. My dad is a freemason is slightly nationalist but he is hardly racist.

[Zostrianos]

I know several Freemasons and none are racist or nationalistic.

[Sinister Intents]

Yeah its probably where I live, every one here seems so backwards and the majority where I live is full of racists, there are also several nazis and KKK where I live.

[Astarte]

There are a lot of Freemasons in the town I live in. They're all incredibly racist and nationalistic, does that make them satanists.

Well, actually, yes, the American brand of Freemasonry is known to be quite reactionary compared to the Continental European varieties which were ideological forces in the European revolutions of the Enlightenment - but even if you read "Morals and Dogma" (written by Albert Pike, a known historical reactionary) you will see that even the mentioned texts focuses little on politics and mostly on Luciferian theology - these weren't his original theological ideas either.

Why would you equate non-racism with Satanism? I have met many, many Satanists who are Racists - Luciferianism, in my reckoning of things seems in a way diametrically opposed to Satanism, as Satanism implies the Earthbound one - "Lucifer" after the fall - the whole idea of Luciferianism is that Lucifer is the Angel of Light, Truth, Wisdom rebelling against a Tyrannical "God" - it is Ea opposing Enlil - The aspect of "Lucifer" which is Satan is actually more a kin to Yahweh's attributes than Lucifer's or Jesus's.

EDIT: I just wanted to say, as far as Freemasonry and racism, or even political alignment - it is not so that "All American Freemasons are reactionaries or racists" - I have known, personally, American Freemasons that are very leftwing and open minded people. In the South, I think though, that Freemasonry, historically, leaned in the direction of reaction for historical reasons having little to do with the core theology of Freemasonry, and more to do with the legacy of racism inherent in US history.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Why would you equate non-racism with Satanism? I have met many, many Satanists who are Racists - Luciferianism, in my reckoning of things seems in a way diametrically opposed to Satanism, as Satanism implies the Earthbound one - "Lucifer" after the fall - the whole idea of Luciferianism is that Lucifer is the Angel of Light, Truth, Wisdom rebelling against a Tyrannical "God" - it is Ea opposing Enlil - The aspect of "Lucifer" which is Satan is actually more a kin to Yahweh's attributes than Lucifer's or Jesus's.

They are often opposed.

http://www.paganspace.net/group/crookedpathsorcery/forum/topics/luciferianism-vs-satanism

edit: http://nyarbb.com/casp/pdf/pamphlet-SL-nyarbb.pdf

[bots]

I was reqlly into the Temple of the Black Light for a couple weeks but I was just listening to too much Dissection and tripping on the weeeed

[Saviorself]

Theistic Satanists are an "interesting" lot. The reality is, they are nothing but reverse Christians in that they believe the bullshit story and instead choose to side with the "bad guy". I think Atheistic (LaVeyan) Satanism has some merit to it but these days, under the rule of Peter Gilmore, C/S has turned into a joke. I would have been a member back when it first started and LaVey was at the helm but I can't take them seriously these days. And I think LaVey would be churning in his urn if he saw that his organization has turned into a cabal of sycophants who take his every word as axiomatic truth leaving no room for disagreement. I find myself very much in line with LaVey's Satanic philosophy except for the law worship it espouses.

[Guy Incognito]

I was reqlly into the Temple of the Black Light for a couple weeks but I was just listening to too much Dissection and tripping on the weeeed

Satanism leads to way too much metal & industrial music. Or is it the other way around...

(Disclaimer: I love metal & industrial music)

[Thirsty Crow]

I find myself very much in line with LaVey's Satanic philosophy except for the law worship it espouses.
I find it really curious that any politicised person who would fall under the broad category of the left would find themselves in line with this dog-eat-dog, war-of-all-against-all ideology, which in the first place is only egoism ritualized.

[Elysian]

Satanists give Satan a bad name.

[Saviorself]

I find it really curious that any politicised person who would fall under the broad category of the left would find themselves in line with this dog-eat-dog, war-of-all-against-all ideology, which in the first place is only egoism ritualized.

Well, since Satanism makes no distinction concerning political ideology (leaving it up to the individual to decide what suits them best) the two are not mutually exclusive. I don't know what gives you the idea that it is "war-of-all-against-all". And I would also say that calling it "egoism ritualized" is an over-simplification. By the by, I have never found any need for ritual.

[Franz Fanonipants]

Well, since Satanism makes no distinction concerning political ideology (leaving it up to the individual to decide what suits them best) the two are not mutually exclusive.

lookit dis nub

[Os Cangaceiros]

Satanism in popular culture is fun. Like some black metal groups or movies like "The Ninth Gate" or "The Omen". Unfortunately "actual Satanists" seem to be p. much non-existent.

Well, except for these guys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripper_Crew).

[GPDP]

A couple of days ago, driving back from a day of work, my father tuned in to a popular Mexican-American radio station, where they just happened to have invited a theistic Satanist for an interview of sorts. It was a very... interesting experience.

Basically, the guy literally worshipped Satan, and claimed he raised his three sons to do so as well. He claimed to be a servant of Satan, and believed that the Anti-Christ would come soon and usher in world peace. He spent a lot of time during the interview going on about how the Christian god was a malicious god, and how his god was the god of reason, wisdom, and tolerance. For this, he frequently referred to his complete acceptance of homosexuality, and how Christians were hypocrites for preaching peace and tolerance when they did not extend it to people like homosexuals, and in fact were forbidden by scripture to do so.

He also said he believed the US and Mexico would soon cease to exist, and that the US would collapse upon itself, and that once it did, the Anti-Christ would surface in Europe, and a golden age for humanity would begin. As such, he preached to listeners that they take their beliefs into question, and whether it was worth supporting a false god that did more harm to the world than good.

While I think the guy was a little off his rocker, and definitely was little better than Christians in preaching support for his deity in saying that only by doing so would bring salvation to mankind, I did find it interesting to see him point out the contradictions in Christian theology, and how many Christians, despite claiming to be progressive, don't really bother to defend their own religion's tenets (the radio hosts claimed to not be against homosexuality, but refused to acknowledge the Bible's position on this). The fact that it came from a Mexican, given how strongly Catholic Mexico is, only made the interview even more intriguing, though again despite the Satanist in question acting like an arrogant douchebag at times.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

A couple of days ago, driving back from a day of work, my father tuned in to a popular Mexican-American radio station, where they just happened to have invited a theistic Satanist for an interview of sorts. It was a very... interesting experience.

Basically, the guy literally worshipped Satan, and claimed he raised his three sons to do so as well. He claimed to be a servant of Satan, and believed that the Anti-Christ would come soon and usher in world peace. He spent a lot of time during the interview going on about how the Christian god was a malicious god, and how his god was the god of reason, wisdom, and tolerance. For this, he frequently referred to his complete acceptance of homosexuality, and how Christians were hypocrites for preaching peace and tolerance when they did not extend it to people like homosexuals, and in fact were forbidden by scripture to do so.

He also said he believed the US and Mexico would soon cease to exist, and that the US would collapse upon itself, and that once it did, the Anti-Christ would surface in Europe, and a golden age for humanity would begin. As such, he preached to listeners that they take their beliefs into question, and whether it was worth supporting a false god that did more harm to the world than good.

While I think the guy was a little off his rocker, and definitely was little better than Christians in preaching support for his deity in saying that only by doing so would bring salvation to mankind, I did find it interesting to see him point out the contradictions in Christian theology, and how many Christians, despite claiming to be progressive, don't really bother to defend their own religion's tenets (the radio hosts claimed to not be against homosexuality, but refused to acknowledge the Bible's position on this). The fact that it came from a Mexican, given how strongly Catholic Mexico is, only made the interview even more intriguing, though again despite the Satanist in question acting like an arrogant douchebag at times.

I find that Theistic Satanists are the oddest lot.Like a "reverse Christian" in many respects.

[Zealot]

Satanism, both atheistic and theistic types, are a pitiful reaction to Christianism and it's offshoots. Laveyanism is an individualistic, petty-bourgeois "religion" that appeals to people who think they're hardcore/had a bad experience with monotheism and tries to abolish religion through making their own Satan-worshiping religion. It's not even good as philosophy.

[Thirsty Crow]

Well, since Satanism makes no distinction concerning political ideology (leaving it up to the individual to decide what suits them best) the two are not mutually exclusive. I don't know what gives you the idea that it is "war-of-all-against-all". And I would also say that calling it "egoism ritualized" is an over-simplification. By the by, I have never found any need for ritual.
It doesn't need to make such a distinction since the core tenets of atheist satanism actually imply a political orientation, or at least suggest it as corresponding to satanism.
From what I remember when I had read LaVey's "bible", the notion of the assertive individual enforcing his/her own will is a basic tenet of this brand of satanism, which actually corresponds to this old notion of homo homini lupus or war of each against each.
As far as the formulation of ritualized egoism goes, this may very well be a simplification, though I think there is a strong basis for viewing satanism predominantly from this perspective.
And it says very little of satanism that you never found need for rituals, since they've been an integral part of the doctrine from LaVey's time (I recall him, or someone else, calling them "psychological dramas").

[RGacky3]

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Go to 30 minutes in when Bill Burr basically calls out the Satanists as being full of shit.

[l'Enfermé]

What is this stupid shit? Are there people here so stupid that they call themselves Satanists?

[RGacky3]

A comedian radio show interviewing satanists ... i.e. its just funny.

[black magick hustla]

The fact that it came from a Mexican, given how strongly Catholic Mexico is, only made the interview even more intriguing, though again despite the Satanist in question acting like an arrogant douchebag at times.

i don't think its that "unique". metal and the occult are pretty big among some segments of the mexican working class and middle class. it doesn't seem that out of the picture to me that some mexicans would emerge with strange theistic satanic ideas lol.