So far what I've seen here....

[CASTRO_SUCKS]

People (NOT ALL) that are afraid of different views and opinions. People that resort to insults, disrespect, smear tactics, and CENSORSHIP! People afraid to argue their points with, and impart wisdom to, those that aren't exactly like them! TRULY an oppressive board!

To "chairman mao, tomorrowsparties, bolshevika, senorache, redcanada" and the rest that have had no valid arguments but to respond with insults and advocate my being banned/restricted, I say its a shame. Here you had the chance to rebuttle my words. To debate me. To respectively offer your views and perhaps supplement (if not change) MY way of thinking. NOT with your acid tongues, but with a calm, pleasant, respectful demeanor. Obviously, you're minds are staunchly made up..you had nothing to fear and the world to gain, by possibly molding an "ally". Instead it has turned into everything I abhor about man-kind!

For those that have actually been inquisitive, respectful and truly representative of what a TRUE communist state SHOULD be, I thank you for your patience!

[Man in the White Shirt]

Aren't you just resorting to smear tatics when you post a little rant against other members here? Bit of a hypocrit, eh?

[Hampton]

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[synthesis]

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You are the one who cannot debate, "CASTRO_SUCKS". I have repeatedly asked you to address the evidence I have provided which indicates that the Cuban people support Castro and you have only offered half-assed, completely unsupported bullshit about how the polled people were "forced" to do so.

In fact, the only obstruction of data in this case was from the Miami mafia, who chose to ensure that nothing as enlightening as the poll I provided would ever be conducted again.


Responding to criticism from likely sources in Miami, Carlos Denton, Director of CID/Gallup in Costa Rica, said in his analysis of the survey: "We conducted the poll to our entire professional satisfaction. We were able to do it because the people could care less whether we were authorized or not, or what we asked." Denton added: "they were not afraid".

[CASTRO_SUCKS]

Nah....you people don't want the truth..to quote a popular movie "you can't handle the truth." Instead you resort to YOUR smear tactics, threats of "banishment", and insults. Some of you welcomed a little change around here...a fresh face, a different opinion to debate. You others wouldn't have it...afraid, it seems, of a little opposition. With nothing to add but, "you haven't made a point", "you're full of shit", "fuck you fuck this fuck that", or "prove yourself" ,"prove this prove that" or even "ban him!" And thats downright sad!

Truth is I don't need this. I have enough crap to deal with in my day to day life! ...I'm banning MYSELF from here! Later!

Tony

[synthesis]

LOL, good riddance to bad trash. Notice how he evades dealing with my points even up to his departure.

[Kapitan Andrey]

CASTRO_SUCKS...I don't support your anti-Castro movement, but...welcome to "restricted members"

I agree with your 1st post here!

[suffianr]

CASTRO_SUCKS...I don't support your anti-Castro movement, but...welcome to "restricted members"

Not the same as getting welcomed into Professor Xavier's School of the Gifted, anyhow...

:lol:

[Ortega]

Can't you listen to a different point of view for once?!??!?!?!?!?!
You drove him off Che-Lives!!

[cubist]

must say though when i joined this site 2 years ago it has changed it was funny then people arguing over politics but from all ideologies since then you seem to have restricted intelligent conversation to socialists only, just like in Citizen X where it is only one sided "impossible serial killings is a western phenomina it doesn't happen here so change your report",

ALL of you on here are oppressing yourselves and make yourselves look weak and pathetic.

you can't argue about politics with only one political view

by not letting right wingers argue on the threads you automatically lose the argument becuase you have oppressed the thoughts of other people, you have seperated them into classes of people, this alone is purposturous because it is so un socialist, what happend to all being equal

comrade zapata you and i appear to be the only people who care about those who believe in opposing ideologies, this message board used to be a place to learn and argue now it is controlled leftist properganda

[Ortega]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2003, 03:08 PM
you can't argue about politics with only one political view

by not letting right wingers argue on the threads you automatically lose the argument becuase you have oppressed the thoughts of other people, you have seperated them into classes of people, this alone is purposturous because it is so un socialist, what happend to all being equal

comrade zapata you and i appear to be the only people who care about those who believe in opposing ideologies, this message board used to be a place to learn and argue now it is controlled leftist properganda
Thank you, cephas, I could not have put it better myself.

[Iepilei]

I'm sorry I have a standard of debate which was not being met by his "facts" - everything he said was pure rhetoric and I could have had the same discussion with a preppy high-school cheerleader if I so desired.

[cubist]

mate no probs i have been on here and been called an idiot for being slighly different when i first arived it was a bloody war of words and then people started getting banned i don't post very often becuase i read the threads and see no need to argue,

the abortion thread was the first proper debate in the politics bit for ages and that was becuase it was on a personal level not a political one so people actually argued,

[Hampton]

Wow...5 threads about the same thing..."We" didn't drive him off Che-Lives, what did he expect to come here spewing shit about Castro and people agreeing with it?

Stop turning him into the martyr he isn't.

[Man in the White Shirt]

I don't understand why we let right-wingers here anyways. They are not going to change our minds, and we're not going to change theirs (expect for DesertFox). THIS IS A LEFTIST WEBSITE! Not ever thread should turn into a Communims vs. Capitialism debate.

Cephas, we don't have just "one" view. We have Liberals, Socialists, Lenninst, Maoists, Trotskites and Stalinists on this website, that seems to be broad spectrum, espically when you watch Trots and Stalinist duke it out. In short we argue amongst ourselves enough with out adding a catyslt to our debates.

I saw shut down the OI and ban and cappies.

PS I have gotten banned on every cappie website I ever posted on, often times after one or two posts, hmm.

[cubist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2003, 08:33 PM
I'm sorry I have a standard of debate which was not being met by his "facts" - everything he said was pure rhetoric and I could have had the same discussion with a preppy high-school cheerleader if I so desired.
well why don't you the cheerleader will give you a run for your money

the way i see it is you can't argue with him becuase you have restricted him for being to damn up on your ideology you have decided that he is not adiquate to argue with as he doesn't agree with you, that makes you the one who has no standard of debate

[cubist]

Originally posted by Man in the White [email protected] 24 2003, 08:54 PM


Cephas, we don't have just "one" view. We have Liberals, Socialists, Lenninst, Maoists, Trotskites and Stalinists on this website, that seems to be broad spectrum, espically when you watch Trots and Stalinist duke it out. In short we argue amongst ourselves enough with out adding a catyslt to our debates.

I saw shut down the OI and ban and cappies.

PS I have gotten banned on every cappie website I ever posted on, often times after one or two posts, hmm.
well great what do you want a medal,

you should expect to be banned on cappie sites they are cappies, but when we act like this we are just being the same as them.

i don't care if he thinks castro is a twat he still has a valid opinion he still would make a great conversation,

devils advocate always makes the conversation more interesting and you learn alot more, this site is about learning and socialisng we can't learn when we only read leftist tripe, we need a balance on here its not like he came on and said leftist wankers fuck off he came on a played ball in your park and you don't like it and that is the problem.

i don't want him to be a martyr loadsa good clever people have been banned from here who were alot better than him i frankly don't Give a Fuck what happens but i don't see how you can ban people from a socialist website for having a different view you are undermining yourselves by doing so you don't affect him he doesn't care he will just go else where.

[Ortega]

Castro_Sucks had good points!
He would've been a great debater, if you'd only listened to a word he said...
Whats the point of an all-leftist website? No diversity, no good arguments.

[Eastside Revolt]

"Communism ON PAPER works! Its a great system of equality! No class division, etc. HOWEVER, my problem with it is when you introduce the HUMAN aspect! Absolute power corrupts absolutely!"

Yeah excellent points like this are just impossible to argue with! :D

[Soul Rebel]

not this same thread again...

anywho, before castro_sucks starts accusing people of wanting him banned maybe he should start with getting the actual facts straight. he mentions me, but the funny thing is that i never wanted him banned and made it quite clear in a thread about it. i do not have a problem with him because of his politics. i do however have a problem with the way in which he argues about politics. sure he makes his statement clear, which would be "i hate castro," but he does not use actual facts to back up his statement. He uses personal experiences to back himself up. Personal experiences arent really considered as valid facts, or points in an argument. The other problem i have is with the fact that he has avoided answering anyones post about the actual topic of castro and cuba. All he has said is "i hate... because i..." and insulted people (which he denies). He has gone completely around peoples posts in which he is actually challenged with thought out arguments. He just knit-picks at them, pointing out insignificant things such as spelling, rather than answering the questions asked. He has not made one strong statement in all the posts he made. If there was one, it was said by Comrade Zapata in defense of Castro_Sucks. He says that we had no arguments, that we used "acid tongues" to argue, but if you look on page 3 i think it is of the Cuba thread i gave him a long argument, with no insults or anything, on cuba and castro, and what did he do? He responded, but not answering to anything in the argument, but to insult and knit-pick what i said (honey this, honey that, blah, blah, blah). He also avoided Urban Rubbles post(s)- he never answered anything in the argument. So tell me where he ever made valid points or had a well-thought out response.

my goddess, im getting so sick of this crap...ive been here for almost a year and never had to deal with this until now.

[Mike Fakelastname]

I agree with cephas, we need to let rightists into this website, at least the ones that are willing to debate. I'm not talking about the ones that say shit like "LENiN DESERVED TO DIE!!!!111!one!!1!", I'm talking about the ones that know a thing or two about Communism, but still choose to be Capitalists. We can do nothing but learn even more from these people. I say we let them in.

Castro-Sucks: I saw your other topic, you weren't really debating, you were just being annoying. If you were actually willing to debate, I would love to have you and people like yourselves on these forums.

It goes against the equality we're supposed to believe in and support, to restrict the right wingers to one forums.

[Don't Change Your Name]

I say they should let him post

[Rasta Sapian]

castrosucks: post away, speak you mind, if you have a point or comment it is your right to argue!

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2003, 07:31 PM
Can't you listen to a different point of view for once?!??!?!?!?!?!
You drove him off Che-Lives!!
Was this addressed to me?

[Kapitan Andrey]

cephas...comrade zapata you and i appear to be the only people who care about those who believe in opposing ideologies, this message board used to be a place to learn and argue now it is controlled leftist properganda

You forgot about me&#33; <_<

Hampton...Stop turning him into the martyr he isn&#39;t.
:D ...YOU - mods made him and me the martyrs by "restriction"&#33; ;)

Man in the White Shirt...Cephas, we don&#39;t have just "one" view. We have Liberals, Socialists, Lenninst, Maoists, Trotskites and Stalinists on this website...
But WTF&#33;? I thoght this site is against stalinists&#33; <_< :angry:
Can anyone answer me? WHY DON&#39;T YOu BAN stalinists&#33;? :huh: :angry:

...I have gotten banned on every cappie website I ever posted on, often times after one or two posts, hmm.
Well...I&#39;ve been banned from central chat and forum of KPRF (communist party of Russian Federation)&#33;&#33;&#33;
So...&#33;? Morons can be everewhere&#33; In the rank of admin, moderator (in my experience of KPRF forum)...everewhere&#33;

And another...Castro-Sucks is not right-winger...he&#39;s a leftist...

[Ortega]

Originally posted by Kapitan [email protected] 25 2003, 07:00 AM
And another...Castro-Sucks is not right-winger...he&#39;s a leftist...
Congratulations, Kapitan Andrey. You might just be the first other person to pay attention to a word he says and realize that.

[cubist]

victor nice matey ;) ;)