My personal opinion on why US citizens depend on wars in order to eat !!

[TrotskistMarx]

Dear friends, the US capitalist system, and the economic system of USA is very very different from many other capitalist countries. Because the USA has a war-based oriented economic system. Some sociologists call it "Military Keynesiansim" or "Pentagonism".

Well, what I am trying to state here is that millions and millions of US citizens work directly or indirectly for the Military Industrial Machine of The Pentagon. The USA is so militarized in its economic system and its psychology of life, that there are even many Corn Flakes and breakfast cereal boxes at the supermarkets with pictures of jet fighters. The propaganda of supporting wars, weapons and military in America are every where in America. In supermarkets, in the streets, in movies made by Hollywood Corporations, in computer games and nintendo and playstation games.

So for us socialists leftists it is better to be 100% realist about the American Hell of a war-based government, than to be utopian dreamers about american families welcoming marxism into their hearts and souls as a result of the economic crisis in USA.

What i mean is that it will almost be impossible to overthrow the Capitalist Zionist Pentagonism war based government, because of the fact that millions of american families depend from the war-based economic system that USA has, their paychecks come from the military industrial machine of wars and evil.

This war-oriented US government feeds millions of Americans, and many businesses in America and even non-war businesses like Mcdonalds, Nike, Adidas, Wal Mart etc. depend on US government bombing the shit out of nations, invading countries and killing people.

That's why millions of USA voters are driven to vote for blue dog zionist pro-war Democrats and zionist neocon pro-war Republicans. And that's why anti-war populists like Nader, Cynthia Mckinney, Stewart Alexander, Ron Paul and Kucinich are hated in America.

SO THE ONLY SOLUTION I SEE FOR USA IS AN EXTRA-ELECTORAL SOLUTION, BUT THERE IS A CATCH-22 WITH THE EXTRA-ELECTORAL SOLUTION, THE CATCH-22 IS THAT MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WILL NOT SUPPORT AN ANTI-WAR POPULIST REVOLUTION, BECUASE OF THE FACT THAT THE INCOME OF MILLIONS OF AMERICAN FAMILIES DEPEND ON THE WAR-BASED ECONOMIC SYSTEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN AMERICA !! IN OTHER WORDS: WE ARE FUCKED UP BIG TIME AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO OVERTHROW THIS ZIONIST WAR-BASED GOVERNMENT IN THE NEAR FUTURE !!!!

Sorry, this is just my personal theory, hypothesis and opinion on why I see it so hard for US voters, US citizens, US families to welcome Marxism, socialism, The Bolivarian Socialist project and the Latin American left leaning projects into their lives to be applied in USA.

Face it, americans don't even support the Norway welfare economic model.

The majority of people of America are so so closed minded, and so quiet, so shy. Most regular average income americans don't communicate their thoughts and feelings. and we are not extra-terrestrials with telepathic abilities to know if they like capitalism or if they hate the american capitalist economic model, and if they would love socialism in USA.

Thanks !!!

[Arilou Lalee'lay]

Well, what I am trying to state here is that millions and millions of US citizens work directly or indirectly for the Military Industrial Machine of The Pentagon.A huge amount of tax dollars, but that hardly means the economy depends on it. Quite the contrary. Its main purpose is to crush revolution wherever it appears. It is used to give the capitalists more opportunities to exploit, but it is one of many tools.


...The propaganda of supporting wars, weapons and military in America are every where in America. In supermarkets, in the streets, in movies made by Hollywood Corporations, in computer games and nintendo and playstation games.

So for us socialists leftists it is better to be 100% realist about the American Hell of a war-based government, than to be utopian dreamers about american families welcoming marxism into their hearts and souls as a result of the economic crisis in USA. Western Marxism has been addressing this for 80 years or longer. That's why it focuses on cultural and artistic analysis and praxis.

Zionisthahahaha

That's why millions of USA voters are driven to vote for blue dog zionist pro-war Democrats and zionist neocon pro-war Republicans.The legal parties here solely exist as a faccade. The one with the most money can sway the most weak or otherwise fucked up minds (and we have a LOT of fucked up minds here) and the competition to pander to lobbyists is very real. The chance of each candidate winning is fifty fifty.


And that's why anti-war populists like Nader, Cynthia Mckinney, Stewart Alexander, Ron Paul and Kucinich are hated in America. Not particularly hated, just unkown (with the exception of Paul and Nader). No one but the main two politicians register because of plurality voting. See this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system#Evaluating_voting_systems_using_crit eria


The majority of people of America are so so closed minded, and so quiet, so shy. Most regular average income americans don't communicate their thoughts and feelings. and we are not extra-terrestrials with telepathic abilities to know if they like capitalism or if they hate the american capitalist economic model, and if they would love socialism in USA.Oh, have no doubt. Half of the country hates socialism and is very vocal about it, and 100% of the country has no clue what socialism is.

The situation here is somewhat grim but not as bleak as you think. If we have a revolution it will just be very different than yours. It will arise from the increasing inhumanity, the insanity capitalism demands to justify itself, the mechanical sham of a life it forces on its citizens. Our revolution might occur under the name of a euphemism like economic democracy, the propaganda against socialism is so pervasive.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Those of us who were born and live in the USA are destined to struggle for change in the USA. Furthermore, IMO the American variant of capitalism may be different in degree from that elsewhere, but I doubt that it is different in kind. Also, it may be a mistake to overemphasize "Zionism" in describing American society and the reference to Ron Paul as a populist definitely missed the mark.

[TrotskistMarx]

You are right, a major cause of that is that most americans, like most people of other nations have a busy life outside of their houses. They must get up early go to work, or to a school, institution, etc. And when they come home, they have more physical labor to do (cooking, cleaning etc). All that, I mean the excess of activities that people do in their daily lives in most capitalist countries unables them to see the bigger picture of how unfair the system of private property of big businesses and corporations (Capitalism). And specially in America there is 0% of information about socialism in the streets. The best place for socialism and marxism propaganda in the USA is in the internet. And many folks in America do not have internet, and those who do have internet, I suspect that do not really use it for politics, to read news, for knowledge and for general information about their reality and the world.

I think that many americans still view the internet as a playstation, as a video, as a nintendo. And not as a credible source of evidence based perfect information. So, they might still rely a lot more on CNN news, FOX news, ABC news, CBS news, NBC news, Noticias Univision and Noticiero Telemundo. And that's why I think that the socialism propaganda has not reached all american households even with the internet and with computer information revolution.

So it is the task of the organized left in America to work a lot harder at spreading propaganda of socialism to american poor low income families. Who are the ones who need an escape, a solution out the living hell they are living in USA right now. A country where low-income families have to take sleeping pills at night, because they are ultra-stressed because they have to pay like 6 different monthly expensive utility bills, fees and taxes to corporations owned by oligarchs. Just to prevent being thrown out to the streets, to sleep in the streets.

So it is the task of the USA left to work harder maybe in making a socialist newspaper, or in investing in progressive TV stations like Free Speech TV, Link TV, and Russia News Today, in order for socialism to reach americans. Because even with the movie "Capitalism: A Love Story" by Michael More, and other socialist movies, socialism has not really reached the majority of low income US families.

Thanks

[RevSpetsnaz]

Thats not an opinion, thats a fact. The US economy has only ever flourished during wartime.

[Jimmie Higgins]

While the US military is one of the largest single employers in the US, the Egyptian military has 100% forced service for citizens and also directly controls about 25% of the capitalist economy (even using conscripted workers to till military-run fields or work in military factories) and yet there is still a revolt and now revolutionary situation in Egypt.

As far as the US economy goes, the US economy may or may not work well during war-time - the biggest boom was during peacetime after WWII, though. TO me that is beside the point, the US military isn't there to directly impact the economy but to make sure that the US economy can remain dominant. So the point of the pentagon isn't to have a war and increase production and lower unemployment, it's to ensure that China can't control the US, that Russia doesn't surpass the US's allies in Europe etc.

After WWII, the US had a "guns and butter" policy of social reforms to keep the domestic peace while the US engaged in imperialist adventures in their attempt to be the biggest power. That situation in the mid-20th century led many on the left to see US workers as "bought-off" and dependent on US imperialism for relatively good working class living standards. But this was impressionistic because as the US shifted to neo-liberalsim we now just have a policy of "guns and batons". Since the 1970s military expendatures haven't been alongside of social reforms but counter-posed to them. The US ruling class made a conscious decision to spend resources on military, police and prisons, rather than social reforms.

[Rusty Shackleford]

all capitalist societies rely on war in some way or another.