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Zostrianos
16th February 2012, 07:55
Uganda's parliament has reopened their "kill the gays" bill and are now considering implementing it (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17054414):

A Uganda cabinet minister has raided a workshop for gay activists and tried to arrest the organiser, a Ugandan paper and UK-based rights group have said.
Minister for Ethics and Integrity Simon Lokodo said the gathering was "illegal" and ordered delegates out of the hotel near the capital.
It comes days after an MP retabled a controversial anti-gay bill.
It proposes increasing the penalties in Uganda for homosexual acts, which are illegal, from 14 years in jail to life.
David Bahati, the MP behind the proposed legislation, says a clause proposing the death penalty will be dropped.
The bill was first introduced in 2009 but never debated.
It originally said those found guilty of "aggravated homosexuality" - defined as when one of the participants is a minor, HIV-positive, disabled or a "serial offender" - would face the death penalty.
In a statement last week, the government defended its right to debate the anti-gay bill but said the draft legislation did not have official backing.
The workshop was organised by Freedom and Roam Uganda, an organisation founded by prominent Uganda gay rights activist Kasha Jacqueline Nabagesera, at a hotel in Entebbe 40km (25 miles) from the capital, Kampala, Uganda's Daily Monitor newspaper reports.
"I have closed this conference because it's illegal. We do not accept homosexuality in Uganda. So go back home," the paper quotes Mr Lokodo as saying.
According to UK-based rights group Amnesty International, Mr Lokodo said if the activists did not leave immediately he would use force against them.
The minister also ordered the arrest of Ms Nabagesera , who was given the prestigious Martin Ennals rights award last year for her work fighting homophobia in Uganda, but she fled the hotel.
"This is an outrageous attempt to prevent lawful and peaceful activities of human rights defenders in Uganda," Salil Shetty, Amnesty International's secretary general, said in a statement.
"The government's claimed opposition to the bill needs to be supported through their actions. The Ugandan government must allow legitimate, peaceful gatherings of human rights defenders, including those working on LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender] rights," Mr Shetty said.
Both the US and UK have recently urged developing countries to respect gay rights or risk losing aid.
Since the bill was retabled there have been reports of increased harassment against homosexuals, gay rights groups say.
In January 2011, gay rights activist David Kato was killed in what some said was a hate crime - the police said it was linked to a robbery.
At his funeral, the priest condemned gay people.


Also on BBC another report on how a gay man had his house broken into by attackers who wanted to kill him - he went to the police who promptly arrested him and told his cell mates he was gay, whereupon he was gang raped by some 50 men:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17054414

SovietSwazi
16th February 2012, 23:37
Invade Uganda!

Tovarisch
17th February 2012, 06:16
Imperialism is not justified often, but this is a case in which it would be justified. At least USA doesn't have shit like this

Zostrianos
17th February 2012, 06:21
I think a big part of Uganda's homophobic culture stems from the strong grip conservative Christianity has on society, and in colonial times the Europeans created harsh laws against homosexuality and did everything they could to demonize it to the locals...and it worked:thumbdown:

SovietSwazi
17th February 2012, 12:20
I think a big part of Uganda's homophobic culture stems from the strong grip conservative Christianity has on society, and in colonial times the Europeans created harsh laws against homosexuality and did everything they could to demonize it to the locals...and it worked:thumbdown:

It all comes back to Capitalism.

NewLeft
18th February 2012, 18:04
Imperialism is not justified often, but this is a case in which it would be justified. At least USA doesn't have shit like this

Imperialism is never justified.

godlessfilthycommiedog
18th February 2012, 19:07
This is why I am an anti-theist. THIS is the harm that comes from religion. I know there are atheist and agnostic bigots, but at least they accept being bigots, instead of standing behind a Bronze-age short story collection written by people with an intelligence more basic than that of a fifth-grader. -___-

Danielle Ni Dhighe
20th February 2012, 06:57
Imperialism is not justified often, but this is a case in which it would be justified.
That's a liberal argument. Imperialism is never justified.

Misanthrope
20th February 2012, 21:09
At least USA doesn't have shit like this

Not yet

TheGodlessUtopian
20th February 2012, 21:24
I think a big part of Uganda's homophobic culture stems from the strong grip conservative Christianity has on society, and in colonial times the Europeans created harsh laws against homosexuality and did everything they could to demonize it to the locals...and it worked:thumbdown:

Uganda's current situation is sad and is due in part to religion, of course, but also due to (and I think it's called) the cultural imperialism of the U.S evangelicals who after "loosing" in "progressive" America were forced to retreat to the third world where liberal ideas where less entrenched. Some time back I remember hearing lots of coverage about U.S based religious groups donating millions to Ugandan missionaries and coercing the government into passing their legislature.

At one time Uganda had the best AIDS prevention program in the entire African continent. But after the missionaries and religionists gained a stranglehold this dissipated.


Invade Uganda!

Why? So the brave and heroic U.S can boost to the world how they rescued the poor gay Ugandans when it was only recently that they allowed gays to openly serve in their own military? :rolleyes:

This argument goes like this: "We have to invade otherwise they will kill everyone!" This fails to mention that the invasion will kill far more people than the Ugandan government will in implementing this (presumably) . Naturally, because of this, there is no real alternative other than to hope for a working class uprising (unlikely) as economic blockade and armed force are either acts of imperialism or unnecessary cruelties to a situation that hinges on eradicating the theism and material vices from a poverty stricken society

Ostrinski
20th February 2012, 21:32
This is why I am an anti-theist. THIS is the harm that comes from religion. I know there are atheist and agnostic bigots, but at least they accept being bigots, instead of standing behind a Bronze-age short story collection written by people with an intelligence more basic than that of a fifth-grader. -___-To blame it all on religion is bourgeois-idealist. If we don't ask the question of why religion is facilitating this, then we cease to be materialists.

Tovarisch
21st February 2012, 01:25
Not yet
Seeing as the internet spreads information like wildfire these days, I'm pretty sure it will be a while before gays will start getting executed by the government. Imagine the shitstorm the internet and the other developed countries will create if USA passes a law allowing policemen to shoot homosexuals