How to end domestic violence completely?

[Hexen]

Is there any idea to how to make domestic violence to completely disappear? Will a post-revolutionary society do it? Also can outlawing all forms of marriages and relationships (monogamy and polygamy) and reduce everything to promiscuity as the only acceptable form of sex be effective?

[kuros]

By killing all the men, off course!!!

[Veovis]

By killing all the men, off course!!!

So are you saying only men are capable of domestic violence?

[Hexen]

By killing all the men, off course!!!

You sound like a Straw Feminist stereotype.

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[Искра]

There will still be domestic violence in post-revolutionary society. Do not idolise working class... I believe that workers in post-revolutionary society will raise an issue of that and organise to spread the "word" against it... Only then, when workers recognise the problem of domestic violence it could be reduced or wiped out. That is really tought task as many "revolutionaries" are idiots. Take a look at Stalin for example and how did he changed laws made by Alexandra Kollontai about merrage and abortus.

[Nox]

Try to eliminate the root causes of domestic violence.

I'm no expert on the subject, but I assume the problems associated with capitalism contribute significantly to domestic violence.

[eyedrop]

Making it economically neutral to exit relationships would help with a good deal of the cases.

[manic expression]

I think it's a difficult concept to get rid of something such as this, but regardless it must be done. Obviously, the most important step would be the abolition of capitalism, as it does create a great deal of the conditions that lead to domestic violence. Another critical issue is that of how post-revolutionary society organizes its response to such an occurrence. I can't say much about the details myself, but it needs to be something quite accessible and fair. Also, I think we should think about how to present a positive, progressive vision of masculinity so that the pervading role model will reflect the egalitarian nature of post-revolutionary society.


You sound like a Straw Feminist stereotype.
Feminists don't need Hollywood's help in looking unreasonable, they do that all by themselves. Gloria Allred, defended by the video, is actually a pretty clear example of that (as she so reasonably stated, "if you're not a feminist then you're a bigot").

[Princess Luna]

So are you saying only men are capable of domestic violence?


You sound like a Straw Feminist stereotype.

I am 98.3% sure (s)he was being sarcastic

[Jimmie Higgins]

Try to eliminate the root causes of domestic violence.

I'm no expert on the subject, but I assume the problems associated with capitalism contribute significantly to domestic violence.

This and what eyedrop said right after.

The reason "domestic violence" is not just called violence is because in privatized family units, children, sometimes wives or even elderly parents are often without alternative ways to take care of themselves outside of a family.

So the most immediate and effective thing would be providing free child-care for workers (so if a family has to split up, it's not a huge burden or worry for a single working parent) housing (so someone wouldn't stay in a bad family situation only for not having any ability to be independent financially), medical care for the elderly, free stigmatized care for people with mental, physical, or substance abuse problems.

These kinds of measures would go a long way in materially helping people to immediately get out of unhealthy living arrangements. In addition to this, measures against sexism, reproductive freedom, etc will minimize spousal abuse towards women because marriage would be a mutual arrangement, not a (patriarchal) mini-hierarchy of "traditional marriage" within families.

For the longer-term, getting rid of alienation; people actually having control over their work and living situations and having a real say in how society functions; people having the ability to do meaningful and fulfilling work and more free-time; not having to worry about loosing your house or apartment; not having to deal with the rat-race; and many other improvements in our lives will get rid of a lot of the pent up frustration, depression, cynicism, and "dog-eat-dog" mentality that people internalize because we are all forced to fight eachother and be crammed into communities or commutes together.

[kuros]

You sound like a Straw Feminist stereotype.

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wow she looks attractive!

[eyedrop]

wow she looks attractive!

And that's relevant how...

[danyboy27]

Is there any idea to how to make domestic violence to completely disappear? Will a post-revolutionary society do it? Also can outlawing all forms of marriages and relationships (monogamy and polygamy) and reduce everything to promiscuity as the only acceptable form of sex be effective?

I doubt we can get rid of it totally but we can give the mean for the people in trouble to get help.

There are things in this world that cannot be totally fixed, that why has leftist we should not be utopian.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Once the economic situations present in the nuclear family are abolished and the nuclear family in itself is a thing of the past the suffering of people within former units will decrease significantly but I do not believe it can ever fully be eliminated as humans will always have some form of interpersonal relationship struggles.

[Quail]

I don't think it will ever be eliminated completely, but a hell of a lot can be done to address some of the causes. The mental health services, especially in the UK (not sure about elsewhere) are woefully underfunded and there is a stigma associated with being mentally ill (whether you have depression, anger issues, substance abuse, etc) which can be a barrier to people getting treated. It would also help if survivors of abuse were given more support. Children and young people who have been abused need to feel that they can talk to someone and get treatment so that they themselves don't go on to abuse others. Survivors of domestic abuse (both male and female) need safe places that they can go to if they want to leave their partner. People who have been violent towards others must also be treated with understanding so that they can get appropriate treatment (probably in some place resembling a mental health hospital) while still sending out the message that violence towards others is not okay. I think that economic stress has a huge role to play in the mental wellbeing of working class people, so getting rid of capitalism would probably reduce the levels of violence.

[Pretty Flaco]

So are you saying only men are capable of domestic violence?

I know my mom used to beat the shit out of me more often than my dad! And my dad would only use paddles. My mom would hit me with anything she could find... her hand, pots and pans, spoons, she even smacked the shit out of me with pvc pipes once!

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Domestic violence results from misogyny, anger management issues, or some combination thereof.

[Lanky Wanker]

We were reading in sociology about feminism and how Marxist feminists describe women as being "takers of shit". The idea is that men (breadwinners of the nuclear family) get stressed out from work (capitalism) end up verbally and/or physically abusing their wives. Small explanations like this make sense, but it doesn't take a monkey with a big brain to understand that shouting "CAPITALISM!!!" at something like this won't make it go away. Many tribes that, minus the leader, work on a much more communistic system also have problems with domestic abuse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4cgDKT3RQ4 (UK only, sorry.)

[Prometeo liberado]

You can start by getting rid of the Superbowl. The busiest day of the year for cops in relation to domestic violence calls.

[Neoprime]

This and what eyedrop said right after.

The reason "domestic violence" is not just called violence is because in privatized family units, children, sometimes wives or even elderly parents are often without alternative ways to take care of themselves outside of a family.

So the most immediate and effective thing would be providing free child-care for workers (so if a family has to split up, it's not a huge burden or worry for a single working parent) housing (so someone wouldn't stay in a bad family situation only for not having any ability to be independent financially), medical care for the elderly, free stigmatized care for people with mental, physical, or substance abuse problems.

These kinds of measures would go a long way in materially helping people to immediately get out of unhealthy living arrangements. In addition to this, measures against sexism, reproductive freedom, etc will minimize spousal abuse towards women because marriage would be a mutual arrangement, not a (patriarchal) mini-hierarchy of "traditional marriage" within families.

For the longer-term, getting rid of alienation; people actually having control over their work and living situations and having a real say in how society functions; people having the ability to do meaningful and fulfilling work and more free-time; not having to worry about loosing your house or apartment; not having to deal with the rat-race; and many other improvements in our lives will get rid of a lot of the pent up frustration, depression, cynicism, and "dog-eat-dog" mentality that people internalize because we are all forced to fight eachother and be crammed into communities or commutes together.

Disagree.

Then you have to explain situations in which a woman/man can leave but have Stockholm syndrome and won't leave.

I think most people should be taught how to fight for themselves, be strong willed, and independent.

That way they can fend off an attack and have the cofidence to be strong and walk away.

But I still agree with mostly what you said.

[Tovarisch]

So are you saying only men are capable of domestic violence?
I just want to add personal experience, my mom often resorted to violence when things didn't go her way. My dad never did...

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

You can start by getting rid of the Superbowl. The busiest day of the year for cops in relation to domestic violence calls.
Probably has more to do with people drinking all day than a televised sports game.