The draft?

[Marquess]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, so sorry in advance if it's not.

I just got my learners permit the other day, but in order to get it I had to sign a draft paper (I guess it's called the "Selective Service System" now). Basically it said that should the US ever bring the draft back, I would be selected and deployed as a soldier.

I honestly don't know anyone else who's had to do this, if fact to the best of my knowledge anything having to do with draft was done away after the Vietnam war. But according to the research I've done, all people 18-25 have to do it by law or face prison or a fine. In fact, I guess I was supposed to do it 30 days after turning 18.

How long has this been going on for? Is it recent that they've brought this back?

[#FF0000]

selective service is sorta old. it's no big deal really

[Antipiol]

It's always been around to my knowledge, and if I'm not mistaken, every male, unless a special circumstance applies, is required to sign up when they turn 18. Not that every male actually does though.

You're thinking of the actually act of "drafting", which hasn't been done since the vietnam war. The selective service is just something you have to do in case the "draft" ever happens again. You're name is put on a list for them to "draft" from.

And there's no gaurantee you would be deployed, it works in kind of a lottery system. At least during the vietnam war it did...

But I'd like to think that if the "draft" were ever imposed upon the people again, especially after Vietnam, that there would be massive protest. A protest with such size and anger that it would render the government unable to go to war effectively or impose it's will on the people... I may be thinking wishfully though.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

selective service is sorta old. it's no big deal really
This.

If I remember correctly, I had to do it in order to get federal financial aid for college. This was back in 2007, but I think it's been going on since 1917?

[Veovis]

I honestly don't know anyone else who's had to do this, if fact to the best of my knowledge anything having to do with draft was done away after the Vietnam war. But according to the research I've done, all people 18-25 have to do it by law or face prison or a fine. In fact, I guess I was supposed to do it 30 days after turning 18.

All men 18-25 have to register.

[Ocean Seal]

Its okay man, I signed up too when our school forced us to register to vote. Whatevs bro you'll be okay so long as the US doesn't do something dumb... oh wait. I guess we'll have to find some way out of this one.

[Ostrinski]

Hmm, I've gotten three notices in the mail about this now. I've not done it out of laziness more than defiance. I turned 18 last June, guess I should do it.

[Veovis]

Just make sure you have your passport in order, some friends overseas, and a little bit put aside for airfare.

[Marquess]

Thanks all. I've just never heard of it, and to the best of my knowledge none of my friends have had to do this either.


All men 18-25 have to register.

That's what I meant to say, my bad.



Its okay man, I signed up too when our school forced us to register to vote. Whatevs bro you'll be okay so long as the US doesn't do something dumb... oh wait. I guess we'll have to find some way out of this one.
My thoughts exactly.

[KrasnayaRossiya]

cancel it.
i was luckly to serve in a normal unit in the russian army,but my friend spent more time sucking d**ks and slave-laboring than doing military excercise.what a sad army it was/is...

[Ostrinski]

my friend spent more time sucking d**ksSounds better than being in a regular unit.

[KrasnayaRossiya]

well,see for yourself and tell us how it was
i'm sure i dont wanna be raped

[aristos]

Sounds better than being in a regular unit.

Leave it to violence fetishist Brospierre to condone rape.:thumbup1:

[ellipsis]

i had to register, even my CO friend eventually registered, not really a big deal, they already have you in "the database".

[Bostana]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, so sorry in advance if it's not.

I just got my learners permit the other day, but in order to get it I had to sign a draft paper (I guess it's called the "Selective Service System" now). Basically it said that should the US ever bring the draft back, I would be selected and deployed as a soldier.

I honestly don't know anyone else who's had to do this, if fact to the best of my knowledge anything having to do with draft was done away after the Vietnam war. But according to the research I've done, all people 18-25 have to do it by law or face prison or a fine. In fact, I guess I was supposed to do it 30 days after turning 18.

How long has this been going on for? Is it recent that they've brought this back?

I wouldn't worry to much about it.
The last time America used the draft was in Vietnam.
Even if they do end up using the draft you could pursay dodge it. I here Canada isn't a bad place.
:D

[danyboy27]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, so sorry in advance if it's not.

I just got my learners permit the other day, but in order to get it I had to sign a draft paper (I guess it's called the "Selective Service System" now). Basically it said that should the US ever bring the draft back, I would be selected and deployed as a soldier.

I honestly don't know anyone else who's had to do this, if fact to the best of my knowledge anything having to do with draft was done away after the Vietnam war. But according to the research I've done, all people 18-25 have to do it by law or face prison or a fine. In fact, I guess I was supposed to do it 30 days after turning 18.

How long has this been going on for? Is it recent that they've brought this back?
there are several way to avoid being drafted even if you sign that paper,so dont worry about it.

i am pretty sure over 60% of the people who sign this paper couldnt be drafted for medical reason anyway.

[danyboy27]

I wouldn't worry to much about it.
The last time America used the draft was in Vietnam.
Even if they do end up using the draft you could pursay dodge it. I here Canada isn't a bad place.
:D
canada expulsed several conscience objector during the war in iraq and they will do it again in the future believe me.
The conservatives run the show here now.

[ellipsis]

I'll come and shoot u in the foot it u need. Jk

[Veovis]

I used to have an out, but then they repealed DADT.

[Bostana]

canada expulsed several conscience objector during the war in iraq and they will do it again in the future believe me.
The conservatives run the show here now.

I'm sorry to hear that.

[danyboy27]

I'll come and shoot u in the foot it u need. Jk

showing sign of emotional distress is less painful and more efficient.
if they feel like you could be a threat to the whole structure, they will exclude you or put you in non-combat positions.

Nobody want a pyromaniac or a guy who hear voices to be in position of holding a weapon or be anywhere near the frontline.

There are also countless physical injuries and diseases that can discharge you from serving; epilepsy, cardiac problem, weight problems, lung problems etc etc.

If you can convince the army and the doctors that you will be a liability, that you could be a threat to their whole struture, you will be fine.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

showing sign of emotional distress is less painful and more efficient.
if they feel like you could be a threat to the whole structure, they will exclude you or put you in non-combat positions.

Nobody want a pyromaniac or a guy who hear voices to be in position of holding a weapon or be anywhere near the frontline.

There are also countless physical injuries and diseases that can discharge you from serving; epilepsy, cardiac problem, weight problems, lung problems etc etc.

If you can convince the army and the doctors that you will be a liability, that you could be a threat to their whole struture, you will be fine.
I'll have to remember to get fat and obsess over starting fires while claiming Satan is talking to me if I'm ever drafted.

[Marquess]

I'll come and shoot u in the foot it u need. Jk
Let's save that as a last resort.:cool:


showing sign of emotional distress is less painful and more efficient.
if they feel like you could be a threat to the whole structure, they will exclude you or put you in non-combat positions.

Nobody want a pyromaniac or a guy who hear voices to be in position of holding a weapon or be anywhere near the frontline.

There are also countless physical injuries and diseases that can discharge you from serving; epilepsy, cardiac problem, weight problems, lung problems etc etc.

If you can convince the army and the doctors that you will be a liability, that you could be a threat to their whole struture, you will be fine.
That's plan b. And I do have a history of mental problems in my family and was diagnosed with mild depression when I was 12, so that might just work.

I did have a plan a, but if Canada is deporting conscientious objectors now, I'm screwed. I would've even went to Quebec too...

My only real worry is since a war with Iran seems to be looming, they will bring it back. Seems very plausible since that's a war that no one wants (Except the war mongers of course).

[X5N]

I've heard that despite the threats and bullshit, they haven't prosecuted anyone for not signing up in like 30 years.

I had to in order to get financial aid for the college I'm not going to. I was so mad I actually screamed -- something I've never done in a situation not involving parental stupidity.

If the U.S. ever even considers reinstating the draft, I will leave the country and burn the first American flag I can get my hands on.

[danyboy27]

My only real worry is since a war with Iran seems to be looming, they will bring it back. Seems very plausible since that's a war that no one wants (Except the war mongers of course).
I wouldnt worry about it, a war with iran have been looming since the 70s, its really nothing new.

[The Young Pioneer]

Oh, brother. :rolleyes:

OP- calm down, kid. You're falling for sensationalism if you're actually this worried about that stupid service paper.

Firstly, if you plan on attending college, there's your "out" for the next four years (assuming you're finishing up high school now). If a war were to start and in the unlikely event they brought back the draft, you could switch majors and remain another two years, or go to graduate school...etc.

Everyone else has already posted the other ways out of it - Leave the US, feign an injury/illness...

The idea that the US government can actually pick you up by your underarms and drag you to a battlefield is really quite naive. Instead, go back to worrying about your facial hair growing in evenly.

[Zav]

I never signed up for a number of reasons, but I'm approaching 30 and no one's pestered me about it, so you'll probably be fine.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

They sent me similar papers in the mail some time ago;I signed their blasted paper for financial aid reasons.Doesn't matter though since even if they did reinstate the draft and I was "selected" for "service" I would opt for a jail cell instead.

[Libertador]

In Ohio I had to sign it in order to get a driver's license.

Of course if the US were to try to force me into the military I would be the first to jump the first ship to New Zealand.

[Veovis]

Anyone know if they'll still take you if you admit to being a communist?

[Libertador]

Anyone know if they'll still take you if you admit to being a communist?

Take you?

They would fucking make your life hell.

[Zav]

Anyone know if they'll still take you if you admit to being a communist?
They might take you, and there might be an ''accident'' while you are on duty. There are still laws the U.S. has about not being able to do certain things if you are a Communist, because we're fourth-class citizens if open about our politics. The legal system will treat you at a lower level than it does 'illegal' immigrants.

[MarxSchmarx]

Anyone know if they'll still take you if you admit to being a communist?

It sounds like they still ask if you are a communist if you plan to join the us military:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120121211258AAaaohX

http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/78192862/m/8350046912001

But I don't know if that's necessarily a disqualifying answer. Though importantly this is for volunteering - when it comes to conscription, I don't know. My guess is they won't care, they need cannon fodder and can always court martial you if you become a pain in the ass.