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The Douche
10th February 2012, 15:55
For you to defend shit like OFWGKTA? Songs about rape and homophobia are ok, as long as black people make them and they do it ironically?

Also, how high does you white guilt register before you start liking Lil B?

Are some white liberals just so chock full of liberal white guilt that they feel obligated to like such terrible music?

An archist
10th February 2012, 16:14
For you to defend shit like OFWGKTA? Songs about rape and homophobia are ok, as long as black people make them and they do it ironically?

Also, how high does you white guilt register before you start liking Lil B?

Are some white liberals just so chock full of liberal white guilt that they feel obligated to like such terrible music?

I've got some white friends who rap, promoting rape, pedophilia and sexism. (also not quite serious)
It's some pretty great music.

Why does skin color have anything to do with it?

The Douche
10th February 2012, 16:17
its mostly inspired by an arguement I saw recently, where a black woman had a problem with OF, and a white male insisted that she needed to lighten up. Somebody also called me a racist once for suggesting that OF's songs were a) not that great and b) contributing to rape culture. I was accused of viewing all black men as rapists.

Nox
10th February 2012, 16:34
My white guilt level is OVER 9000!!!

#FF0000
10th February 2012, 17:11
For you to defend shit like OFWGKTA? Songs about rape and homophobia are ok, as long as black people make them and they do it ironically?

Also, how high does you white guilt register before you start liking Lil B?

Are some white liberals just so chock full of liberal white guilt that they feel obligated to like such terrible music?

idk the stuff in OF is so over the top that I would think someone would have to be pretty silly to listen to it and take it seriously (as in, like, use it as a model for behavior, I guess?)

meanwhile more 'acceptable' rappers that everyone likes actually believe the dumb homophobic and sexist stuff they say e.g. Method Man, Kanye, etc etc etc.

so yeah i like ofwgkta but i completely understand people being offended by them and wouldn't suggest anyone lighten up if they are SOMEHOW offended by rape and homophobia.

I think there's some really interesting stuff going on in a lot of Tyler's music even though some of the shit I find really distracting.

Thank god his next album's gonna be instrumental tho

ed miliband
10th February 2012, 17:40
don't insult lil b

The Douche
10th February 2012, 18:22
don't insult lil b

I'm just saying, repeating the word "swag" over and over in a funny voice does not meet my standards of "art" or "music", but hey, maybe I'm just a racist...


idk the stuff in OF is so over the top that I would think someone would have to be pretty silly to listen to it and take it seriously (as in, like, use it as a model for behavior, I guess?)

I don't believe that anybody in OF is actually pro-rape, but that language and mentality, does contribute to a culture of rape, y'know, if one of your friends made a rap joke you'd probably be uncomfortable with that, but its ok if a celebrity does it?

ed miliband
10th February 2012, 18:27
I'm just saying, repeating the word "swag" over and over in a funny voice does not meet my standards of "art" or "music", but hey, maybe I'm just a racist...


i can't use my full-stop or comma keys so i can't give b the defence he deserves but that isn't all there is to his music (at all)

in fact 'i'm gay' doesn't feature a single 'swag'

for me b tears up all the conservative notions tied up with hip hop - there's this horrible idea that if hip hop doesn't come from 90s new york it isn't hip hop and b pisses on all the chumps who believe that shit

ed miliband
10th February 2012, 18:31
(you may have noticed from my facebook i'm a massive lil b fan)

Nox
10th February 2012, 18:32
rap, rnb, and hip hop are all FUCKING SHIT

ed miliband
10th February 2012, 18:36
fuck off

i don't think cmoney's dislike of lil b is based on any sort of racism (as he insinuated i would) but i think there are certain racialist notions underlying the blanket hatred of hip hop/r'nb/rap

Nox
10th February 2012, 18:39
nah its just cuz they all sound like crap. it hurts my ears

The Douche
10th February 2012, 18:41
My friend just got out of jail, when he got to his cell block, they were on lockdown for the night. He immediately started singing at the top of his lungs, "I'm bill clinton, fuckin all these women, whitehouse, swag swag swag...". Another prisoner blew up on him and the others came to his aid, and he became the "swag guy", and whenever serious shit happened, or their were awkward silences he'd start singing about "jailhouse swag".

ed miliband
10th February 2012, 18:46
that's awesome (and/or swag)

Lobotomy
10th February 2012, 19:34
I feel like Lil B is a big inside joke that I can never understand.

Le Rouge
10th February 2012, 19:53
Very high
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/115/766/stonercomics.jpg?1318992465

#FF0000
10th February 2012, 20:49
I don't believe that anybody in OF is actually pro-rape, but that language and mentality, does contribute to a culture of rape, y'know, if one of your friends made a rap joke you'd probably be uncomfortable with that, but its ok if a celebrity does it?

Psh I'm uncomfortable when Tyler The Creator does it too. I still like his music, though, because regardless of how incredibly rough around the edges and flat out ignorant he can be in the language he uses and the shit he says, I still think there's value in his music and something underneath all that ignorant shit.

And that's how it is with a lot of art -- you can criticize and condemn what you don't like about it and still appreciate something based on its other merits.

Plus, I think what's worse and more damaging is all the shit people don't talk about or just ignore. I know leftists who love Big Pun despite the fact that he beat the shit out of his wife and kids, or who love NWA despite all their homophobic and sexist shit. Then there's who's Method Man's homophobic as fuck. And I don't think I need to mention Kanye's flagrant sexism. But I could go on, since there are tons of rappers who are sexist and homophobic as fuck but who don't get the attention because, i dunno, i guess they pass it off as normal? Meanwhile you have OFWGKTA whose offense is basically just going LOL RAPE which is obviously ridiculous and done mostly for shock value, which I think makes it much less damaging than the people who pass it off as normal.

but yeah i totally 100% understand not liking Odd Future -- I would never tell someone they should 'lighten up' because they're shocked by the lyrics. It's totally understandable, I think.

The Douche
10th February 2012, 20:57
My issue isn't so much with liking them. I like bands that are a thousand times worse than OF, but I don't feel the need to defend them.

I just so often see this "oh my god, its satire/irony/joking/shock value, chill", whereas if you make a skrewdriver appresh thread in music on here everybody would be like "wtf nazi, ban him, you can't like that music and not like the ideas!!!!!!!!"

The Stalinator
10th February 2012, 21:18
every time someone says swag i cry

Искра
10th February 2012, 21:23
X87ig7cfFbA

El Chuncho
10th February 2012, 21:40
If rap advocates rape, sexism and homophobia it is reactionary tripe; as bad as any rightist music. The best rap in the world is either old school party rap (apolitical and feel-good) or politically aware rap. :cool:

ВАЛТЕР
10th February 2012, 21:44
I don't have any white guilt. While the English and other European powers were colonizing, we were busy being raped by the Turks...

A Revolutionary Tool
10th February 2012, 21:45
I remember a thread a while back somebody posted a song by Lil B and I said it was one of the stupidest songs I had ever heard. Everybody was like :confused: as if I was the one with the problem. I think it was that Bill Clinton song. Wtf is that? Why do people like that guy?

Искра
10th February 2012, 21:48
I don't have any white guilt. While the English and other European powers were colonizing, we were busy being raped by the Turks...
Your Serbian nationalism will make me cry. Why don't you start singing Tko to kaže, tko to laže? :rolleyes:

#FF0000
11th February 2012, 01:06
My issue isn't so much with liking them. I like bands that are a thousand times worse than OF, but I don't feel the need to defend them.

Oh gotcha.


I just so often see this "oh my god, its satire/irony/joking/shock value, chill", whereas if you make a skrewdriver appresh thread in music on here everybody would be like "wtf nazi, ban him, you can't like that music and not like the ideas!!!!!!!!"

ehhhhhhh skrewdriver are actual nazis though whereas OF is just ignorant as fuck so there is the difference i think. sorta the same with with punks who wore swastikas just to be shocking, i think.

#FF0000
11th February 2012, 01:07
politically aware rap. :cool:

almost all politically aware rap is terrible i'm sorry

#FF0000
11th February 2012, 01:08
I remember a thread a while back somebody posted a song by Lil B and I said it was one of the stupidest songs I had ever heard. Everybody was like :confused: as if I was the one with the problem. I think it was that Bill Clinton song. Wtf is that? Why do people like that guy?

lil b is a troll and is actually pretty good when he isn't trolling.

Искра
11th February 2012, 01:16
almost all politically aware rap is terrible i'm sorry
except public enemy

then again, people talk shit about nazi music (which is ok), but what about christian music? that is somehow aceptable etc. what about all that music which promotes reactionary values and politics...

I don't know. Chill out and enjoy music.

Burzum is great band. Like I care about his belifes.

ed miliband
11th February 2012, 01:17
except public enemy

then again, people talk shit about nazi music (which is ok), but what about christian music? that is somehow aceptable etc. what about all that music which promotes reactionary values and politics...

I don't know. Chill out and enjoy music.

Burzum is great band. Like I care about his belifes.

burzum is great but so is a lot of old gospel music and negro spirituals

#FF0000
11th February 2012, 01:19
except public enemy

yes they are one of the exceptions. there are more though (sup sun rise above)


then again, people talk shit about nazi music (which is ok), but what about christian music? that is somehow aceptable etc. what about all that music which promotes reactionary values and politics...

I don't know. Chill out and enjoy music.

Burzum is great band. Like I care about his belifes.

yeah i like gospel and spirituals and stuff too but whoever enjoys christian rock/punk/pop-punk needs to be put down.

dodger
11th February 2012, 02:11
rap, rnb, and hip hop are all FUCKING SHIT

Agreed NOX, 1000%. Does that make for self doubt, considering that I am 64 years old?

Not at all fond of lyrics that glorify drug abuse, violence or rape. The music form does not please my senses. Am probably too set in my musical ways, although often I hear something from Africa or South America which causes me to follow through and investigate more. Holding back from criticism is idiotic if the reason has connection to skin pigment. Now what is that song and melody I like?
First here's one I hate for it's gratuitous violence, drug references, intoxication and sexual innuendo:Sung by a white artist though I have heard black singers!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy00_EXdUzA


Music censorship, it was common currency that the fastest way to get a No1 hit was for the BBC to ban it. LINK to wiki on music censorship below:


http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=song%20music%20censorship&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCensors hip_of_music&ei=qss1T-KsG8SciAfd6YmNAg&usg=AFQjCNE1Lf5wLPZbCvhw7kMJJu1ZFRo3tg
I get no kick from Champagne
Mere alchohol doesn't thrill me at all
so tell me why should it be true
that i get a kick
out of you

Some get a kick from cocain
i'm sure that if i took even one sniff
that would bore me terrificly too
yet i get a kick out of you

i get a kick every time i see you standing there before me
i get a kick though its clear to me you obviously don't
adore me

I get no kick in a plane
Flying too high
with some guy in the sky is my idea of nothing to do

Yet i get a kick
Out of you

NoOneIsIllegal
11th February 2012, 02:42
I like hip-hop, but Lil B and Odd Future are shit. Stupid beats, stupid lyrics. It's terrible.

#FF0000
11th February 2012, 02:45
Stupid beats

Excuse me

ed miliband
11th February 2012, 02:48
I like hip-hop, but Lil B and Odd Future are shit. Stupid beats, stupid lyrics. It's terrible.

MAN

Lil b has some of the best beat makers in modern hip hop on his side

wtf??

NoOneIsIllegal
11th February 2012, 03:01
"Open Thunder Eternal Slumber" samples Slowdive. That was cool, I guess.

ed miliband
11th February 2012, 03:03
"Open Thunder Eternal Slumber" samples Slowdive. That was cool, I guess.

quite a few of his songs sample/reference really obscure indie stuff

#FF0000
11th February 2012, 03:38
oh ps anyone who says 'i hate this entire genre' is being a dummy because there is always something good in every genre no matter what even though most of everything is awful.

Ostrinski
11th February 2012, 03:50
I don't like Lil B or OF but a lot of the stuff I listen to like Big L and N.W.A are rife with chauvinism. Also, there's a lot of good political hip hop (Boogie Down Productions, 2Pac, Eric B & Rakim, Gang Starr, Common, The Roots, Big Daddy Kane, Mos Def etc etc etc)

NewLeft
11th February 2012, 03:55
Fuck the stalinist B.A., everyone go listen to lil b right now.

Ele'ill
11th February 2012, 03:55
I think music is made when someone thinks 'I have something I want to share lyrically and I want to say it with instruments in there'. If someone sings about really awful things then that's the message and I personally don't listen to that stuff. The exception would be in relatively benign cases where the music is more nostalgic than anything else.

The Douche
11th February 2012, 06:31
Check it out, I wrote a sweet rap, inspired by OF and Lil B, the almighty based god:

Rape rape rape, its good to do rape, I love to rape because my name is satan.
swagswagswagswagswagswagswagswagswag

NewLeft
11th February 2012, 06:35
Check it out, I wrote a sweet rap, inspired by OF and Lil B, the almighty based god:

Rape rape rape, its good to do rape, I love to rape because my name is satan.
swagswagswagswagswagswagswagswagswag

ur just jealous

Ostrinski
11th February 2012, 06:46
oh ps anyone who says 'i hate this entire genre' is being a dummy because there is always something good in every genre no matter what even though most of everything is awful.Name one good deathcore/nu metal band besides After the Burial and Deftones. I agree with you for the most part but I feel like those two genres can be safely generalized.

The Douche
11th February 2012, 06:47
ur just drunk

Fixed it for you.

#FF0000
11th February 2012, 07:26
Name one good deathcore/nu metal band besides After the Burial and Deftones. I agree with you for the most part but I feel like those two genres can be safely generalized.

son even the bands you named are horrible.

but you are right. nu-metal is awful but the worst of all, bar abso-fucking-lutely none is 'post grunge'.

Fawkes
11th February 2012, 08:06
If rap advocates rape, sexism and homophobia it is reactionary tripe; as bad as any rightist music. The best rap in the world is either old school party rap (apolitical and feel-good)

A few off the top of my head

"say if your girl starts actin up, then you take her friend"
- Sugarhill Gang, Rapper's Delight

"A big fine girl, she had a hell of a body, then she looked at me and then she started switchin
So I took my key out of the ignition
Got out the car and kept my mouth shut, cause my 20-20 vision was right on her butt"
- Spoonie Gee, Spoonin' Rap

"Girls to do the dishes, to clean up my room, to do the laundry, and in the bathroom"
- Beastie Boys, Girls



What were you saying again?

An archist
11th February 2012, 10:42
He's one of us!

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz81j01uH01r89p1xo1_500.jpg

GallowsBird
11th February 2012, 10:54
Agreed NOX, 1000%. Does that make for self doubt, considering that I am 64 years old?

Not at all fond of lyrics that glorify drug abuse, violence or rape. The music form does not please my senses. Am probably too set in my musical ways, although often I hear something from Africa or South America which causes me to follow through and investigate more. Holding back from criticism is idiotic if the reason has connection to skin pigment. Now what is that song and melody I like?
First here's one I hate for it's gratuitous violence, drug references, intoxication and sexual innuendo:Sung by a white artist though I have heard black singers!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy00_EXdUzA


Music censorship, it was common currency that the fastest way to get a No1 hit was for the BBC to ban it. LINK to wiki on music censorship below:


http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=song%20music%20censorship&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCensors hip_of_music&ei=qss1T-KsG8SciAfd6YmNAg&usg=AFQjCNE1Lf5wLPZbCvhw7kMJJu1ZFRo3tg
I get no kick from Champagne
Mere alchohol doesn't thrill me at all
so tell me why should it be true
that i get a kick
out of you

Some get a kick from cocain
i'm sure that if i took even one sniff
that would bore me terrificly too
yet i get a kick out of you

i get a kick every time i see you standing there before me
i get a kick though its clear to me you obviously don't
adore me

I get no kick in a plane
Flying too high
with some guy in the sky is my idea of nothing to do

Yet i get a kick
Out of you

What is this evil modern music invading our shores! Glorifying violence! HATE MUSIC! It is about a man who has tried all these drugs kicking planes but instead he wants to kick his significant other. Evil stuff.

Thank you comrade Dodger for alerting us to the pressence of such anti-social music!

:lol:

manic expression
11th February 2012, 13:59
I have no idea what OFGBJSKALADOCIOUS or whatever its name is is and I don't see any reason why I should...I like hip hop because I like the music and the rhythm and the things good artists are able to express not because I feel guilty about anything. If there's sexist lyrics sometimes its stupid...but still if all you see (http://www.theroot.com/buzz/72-percent-african-american-children-born-unwed-mothers) are broken homes you're probably not going to be a moral model, a lot of rappers just talk about what they know don't blame them. I've said this before feminists always complain about Biggie's lyrics but they've never heard the last track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GygEAcFFMVs) on Ready to Die or understand why the cd was even called that. And yeah, men sometimes say things about women's bodies...big deal women talk about men's bodies all the time and no one complains about that do they.

So IMO there's pro-rap white guilt and anti-rap male white guilt. Screw it just listen to what you enjoy and don't listen to what you don't. Is that so difficult?


"A big fine girl, she had a hell of a body, then she looked at me and then she started switchin
So I took my key out of the ignition
Got out the car and kept my mouth shut, cause my 20-20 vision was right on her butt"Oh, wow, I'm so offended that a man looked at the butt of a female. This is barbarity, sir, barbarity that is. :rolleyes:

The Douche
11th February 2012, 14:40
I have no idea what OFGBJSKALADOCIOUS or whatever its name is is and I don't see any reason why I should...

Because its relavent to this discussion. I'm not talking about rap, I'm not talking about listening to certain kinds of music which have questionable lyrics, I'm talking about odd future, and since you don't know, here is an example:


[Verse 1: Jasper]
Chillin' in class (http://rapgenius.com/142039/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Chillin-in-class) with a bag full of grass (http://rapgenius.com/141729/Odd-future-swag-me-out/With-a-bag-full-of-grass)
Lookin' for a white chick to smoke up and choke up
I even got that white sniff come over here and take a whiff
Now you ready to get raped and ate by Mr. Haley (http://rapgenius.com/141735/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Lookin-for-a-white-chick-to-smoke-up-and-choke-up-i-even-got-that-white-sniff-come-over-here-and-take-a-whiff-now-you-ready-to-get-raped-and-ate-by-mr-haley)
Litter Life is the gang, (http://rapgenius.com/141737/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Litter-life-is-the-gang) it's that shit that we bang (http://rapgenius.com/321033/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Its-that-shit-that-we-bang)
Let's play an Odd game, it's called ***** you better run (http://rapgenius.com/143746/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Lets-play-an-odd-game-its-called-*****-you-better-run)
When those Odd Wolves (http://rapgenius.com/143243/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Odd-wolves) come out
And chew you up ***** like bubble gum (http://rapgenius.com/141738/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Chew-you-up-*****-like-bubble-gum)
Jasper's off climbin' trees with that nazist you see
Never met a nigga like me because I'm an Oddsby
Opposite of them Cosby kids (http://rapgenius.com/141724/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Im-an-oddsby-opposite-of-them-cosby-kids)
Got that Virginia Tech swag, shoot up your school and laugh, ***** (http://rapgenius.com/141726/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Got-that-virginia-tech-swag-shoot-up-your-school-and-laugh-*****)

[Hook]
Swag me out *****
Wolf Gang!

[Verse 2: Left Brain] (http://rapgenius.com/290627/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Verse-2-left-brain)
Uh, Left Brain (http://rapgenius.com/264443/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Uh-left-brain)
Swag, me, the fuck, out
'fore you get punched in your fuckin' mouth (http://rapgenius.com/158176/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Swag-me-the-fuck-out-fore-you-get-punched-in-your-fuckin-mouth)
I'mma take your ***** back to my crib (http://rapgenius.com/529661/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Imma-take-your-*****-back-to-my-crib)
You already know my dick is gon' be in ribs (http://rapgenius.com/141740/Odd-future-swag-me-out/You-already-know-my-dick-is-gon-be-in-ribs)
Yeah, and I like barbecue (http://rapgenius.com/142525/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Yeah-and-i-like-barbecue)
Fuckin' with me, I'm fuckin' with you
Uh, Wolf Gang, that's the fuckin' clique (http://rapgenius.com/144808/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Uh-wolf-gang-thats-the-fuckin-clique)
If you got a problem ***** hop on this dick (http://rapgenius.com/150378/Odd-future-swag-me-out/If-you-got-a-problem-*****-hop-on-this-dick)
Nigga I don't want you here
So get the fuck out 'fore (http://rapgenius.com/251429/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Nigga-i-dont-want-you-here-so-get-the-fuck-out-fore) shoot you like a deer (http://rapgenius.com/143348/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Shoot-you-like-a-deer)
Swag me out, swag me out
I don't give a fuck, swag me out (http://rapgenius.com/143393/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Swag-me-out-swag-me-out-i-dont-give-a-fuck-swag-me-out)
Oh oh, where the fuckin' hoes?
Hoes hoes, where the fuckin' hoes?
Hoes hoes, where the fuckin' hoes? (http://rapgenius.com/144372/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Hoes-hoes-where-the-fuckin-hoes-hoes-hoes-where-the-fuckin-hoes)
Where the hoes?

[Verse 3: Tyler the Creator]
You faggots yap about tokin' kush (http://rapgenius.com/180407/Odd-future-swag-me-out/You-faggots-yap-about-tokin-kush)
While I deal with drug dealers and they killed a whole bush
George (http://rapgenius.com/143349/Odd-future-swag-me-out/While-i-deal-with-drug-dealers-and-they-killed-a-whole-bush-george) inside the storage if you wanna take a look (http://rapgenius.com/146268/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Inside-the-storage-if-you-wanna-take-a-look)
But keep your motherfuckin' daughter's mouth shushed boy (http://rapgenius.com/195218/Odd-future-swag-me-out/But-keep-your-motherfuckin-daughters-mouth-shushed-boy)
Lookin' for them white sluts who good at suckin' cat (http://rapgenius.com/141759/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Lookin-for-them-white-sluts-who-good-at-suckin-cat)
Wolf dick black as nigga riders from the fat black *****es
Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All don't give a fuck (http://rapgenius.com/416349/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Odd-future-wolf-gang-kill-them-all-dont-give-a-fuck)
Loiter Squad (http://rapgenius.com/146270/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Loiter-squad), you know where the fuck we at
Earl and Berman swervin' in the Jeep (http://rapgenius.com/141742/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Earl-and-berman-swervin-in-the-jeep)
Me and Travis in the back squirtin' Jergins on our feet (http://rapgenius.com/143527/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Me-and-travis-in-the-back-squirtin-jergins-on-our-feet)
What is that? Not a penis (http://rapgenius.com/156590/Odd-future-swag-me-out/What-is-that-not-a-penis)
What the fuck is extra meat? I don't know, ask Asia (http://rapgenius.com/157018/Odd-future-swag-me-out/What-the-fuck-is-extra-meat-i-dont-know-ask-asia)
Two nazi dykes shittin' in a Synagogue (http://rapgenius.com/264444/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Two-nazi-dykes-shittin-in-a-synagogue)
Cause that ***** lick balls from Western to Crenshaw (http://rapgenius.com/144811/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Cause-that-*****-lick-balls-from-western-to-crenshaw)
And her grandma suck dick down in Rimpau (http://rapgenius.com/145578/Odd-future-swag-me-out/And-her-grandma-suck-dick-down-in-rimpau)
And she masturbates with Vaseline and a (http://rapgenius.com/321039/Odd-future-swag-me-out/And-she-masturbates-with-vaseline-and-a) Ken doll (http://rapgenius.com/143907/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Ken-doll)

[Hook]

[Verse 4: Hodgy Beats]
We cool like the breeze at the fuckin' beach (http://rapgenius.com/251438/Odd-future-swag-me-out/We-cool-like-the-breeze-at-the-fuckin-beach)
They told me to write a flow, I wrote a fuckin' speech
Odd Future Wolf Gang rolls fuckin' deep (http://rapgenius.com/264448/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Odd-future-wolf-gang-rolls-fuckin-deep)
Taylor Swift come around, we go fuckin' deep (http://rapgenius.com/141744/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Taylor-swift-come-around-we-go-fuckin-deep)
She's our slut for weeks and she wash our sheets
Brush our teeth but don't make our beats (http://rapgenius.com/145580/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Brush-our-teeth-but-dont-make-our-beats)
Tyler got the waffles, Devon covers bacon
2DopeBoyz (http://rapgenius.com/143245/Odd-future-swag-me-out/2dopeboyz) got the beef, we serve filet mignon (http://rapgenius.com/157347/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Got-the-beef-we-serve-filet-mignon) shakin' (http://rapgenius.com/144240/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Shakin)
Sour D's got me touchin' the moon (http://rapgenius.com/142044/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Sour-ds-got-me-touchin-the-moon)
Rollin' up blunts the size of a fuckin' cocoon
Wolves roll together like some family raccoons (http://rapgenius.com/251445/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Rollin-up-blunts-the-size-of-a-fuckin-cocoon-wolves-roll-together-like-some-family-raccoons)
Tellin' you to eat an ass like a fuckin' baboon (http://rapgenius.com/144249/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Tellin-you-to-eat-an-ass-like-a-fuckin-baboon)

[Hook]

[Verse 5: Earl Sweatshirt]
Swag me out, swag me out, Jasper get them faggots out
Snortin' coke, (http://rapgenius.com/529662/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Snortin-coke) got the Pope yellin' who let the rabbits out (http://rapgenius.com/142045/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Got-the-pope-yellin-who-let-the-rabbits-out)
Kissin' whores and kissin' bunnies, (http://rapgenius.com/141748/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Kissin-bunnies) put this horse dick in your tummy (http://rapgenius.com/202377/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Put-this-horse-dick-in-your-tummy)
I am on this track because that nigga Taco isn't funny (http://rapgenius.com/143931/Odd-future-swag-me-out/I-am-on-this-track-because-that-nigga-taco-isnt-funny)
(Me and Jesus in the Humvee, Ace and Mary gettin' comfy (http://rapgenius.com/195225/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Me-and-jesus-in-the-humvee-ace-and-mary-gettin-comfy)
Jeffrey Dahmer's (http://rapgenius.com/143448/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Jeffrey-dahmers) in the bushes with R. Kelly (http://rapgenius.com/181268/Odd-future-swag-me-out/R-kelly) tryna fuck me
Steve Harvey, (http://rapgenius.com/143654/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Steve-harvey) Kenan Thompson's (http://rapgenius.com/143653/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Kenan-thompsons) plottin' how to jump me
Well fuck Steve Harvey (http://rapgenius.com/181271/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Well-fuck-steve-harvey) and free Max B (http://rapgenius.com/157348/Odd-future-swag-me-out/And-free-max-b)
Fuckin' Waterham, Hodgy's ass eat skills help eat all the Jam
Damn I'm like marmalam marmalade

[Verse 6: Mike G]
Yo motherfuck 'em if they haters, bet I'll rain on their parade (http://rapgenius.com/157030/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Yo-motherfuck-em-if-they-haters-bet-ill-rain-on-their-parade)
I'm that ignorant motherfucker who took your daughter on a date (http://rapgenius.com/169176/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Im-that-ignorant-motherfucker-who-took-your-daughter-on-a-date)
Dare her to answer the phone if you call her cause she's late
Black kid on the corner sellin' drugs go figure (http://rapgenius.com/156595/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Black-kid-on-the-corner-sellin-drugs-go-figure)
Syd tha Kyd, (http://rapgenius.com/142051/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Syd-tha-kyd) what the fuck we doin'? (Flippin' bricks nigga!) (http://rapgenius.com/146098/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Flippin-bricks-nigga)

[Verse 7: Taco]
Fuck you listenin' to this Wolf Gang reserve (http://rapgenius.com/143194/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Fuck-you-listenin-to-this-wolf-gang-reserve)
Drivin' with your ***** swagged Jasper
Don't give a fuck stealin' your fuckin' purse
All I do is laugh first yeah nigga (http://rapgenius.com/143195/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Dont-give-a-fuck-stealin-your-fuckin-purse-all-i-do-is-laugh-first-yeah-nigga)
Swag me the fuck out, Loiter Squad Bacon Boys (http://rapgenius.com/144245/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Loiter-squad-bacon-boys)
Nigga we take your girl, rape her in the back
Of the fuckin' Jeep, we're off squirtin' feet
We're Jurgens nigga, ultra healin' (http://rapgenius.com/143940/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Were-off-squirtin-feet-were-jurgens-nigga-ultra-healin)

[Verse 8: Jasper]
Yeah we're swervin' in the Jeep, while I'm rollin' up the tree (http://rapgenius.com/575724/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Yeah-were-swervin-in-the-jeep-while-im-rollin-up-the-tree)
Litter Life don't give a fuck, that's why we fuckin' up the trees (http://rapgenius.com/195227/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Litter-life-dont-give-a-fuck-thats-why-we-fuckin-up-the-trees)
Wolf bandit and land it you niggas can't stand it
Chop a *****es head off and get a pleasant nut off, ***** (http://rapgenius.com/147711/Odd-future-swag-me-out/Chop-a-*****es-head-off-and-get-a-pleasant-nut-off-*****)

[Hook]

manic expression
11th February 2012, 15:02
Because its relavent to this discussion. I'm not talking about rap, I'm not talking about listening to certain kinds of music which have questionable lyrics, I'm talking about odd future, and since you don't know, here is an example:
Yeah but other people started talking about rap in general, and it's chit chat.

But OK I just listened to Orange Juice. Eh, weak...trying to be like early Eminem but not as clever or original and with bad delivery. This stuff is supposed to be popular now? At least it's not souljah boy or I Love College, I guess...

KrasnayaRossiya
11th February 2012, 20:14
there are idiots in all races
but it is mean to say that white americans dont have any guilt,yes they have,the HISTORICAL guilt.this is not a matter of rapearations or whatver,but selfe-awareness

NoOneIsIllegal
11th February 2012, 20:22
cmoney's post proves they can't rap for shit. do they know what flow is?

Holy shit, I actually am listening to this "swag me out" song now... this is fucking garbage.

NoOneIsIllegal
11th February 2012, 20:24
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I seriously cant believe some of you like this. Did he seriously record some rubbish he wrote in 12 seconds? This was considered the album of the year?!?!

#FF0000
12th February 2012, 00:34
cmoney's post proves they can't rap for shit. do they know what flow is?

Holy shit, I actually am listening to this "swag me out" song now... this is fucking garbage.

nah it is great actually

but yeah tyler, earl, and hodgy beats are pretty much the only actual rappers in the group.

Fawkes
12th February 2012, 05:43
Oh, wow, I'm so offended that a man looked at the butt of a female. This is barbarity, sir, barbarity that is. :rolleyes:

It's not barbarity, but it is sexual objectification.



And yeah, men sometimes say things about women's bodies...big deal women talk about men's bodies all the time and no one complains about that do they.
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/facepalm_fead82_197800.jpg

That's like when people were saying "Smack My ***** Up" wasn't sexist because the music video showed that 'women can be abusers too'


oh, and yeah, it is a big fucking deal when you can't even walk down the street without being oggled and hit on

Seriously, could you be any more of an apologist for sexism?

Prometeo liberado
12th February 2012, 05:57
I am soooo lost. :confused:

Sir Comradical
12th February 2012, 06:28
I'm not white, so I can get away with saying all kinds of ignorant shit.

Crux
12th February 2012, 07:53
I'm just saying, repeating the word "swag" over and over in a funny voice does not meet my standards of "art" or "music", but hey, maybe I'm just a racist...



I don't believe that anybody in OF is actually pro-rape, but that language and mentality, does contribute to a culture of rape, y'know, if one of your friends made a rap joke you'd probably be uncomfortable with that, but its ok if a celebrity does it?
No man rap apologism is never okay.

workersadvocate
12th February 2012, 11:05
Okay, question for this thread now:

WHAT CLASS do these recorded/promoted rappers--that everyone has heard of--belong to NOW?
Not asking about your friends who do amateur rap or perform rap at karaoke or even who are dreaming of being big rap stars someday. Not asking about where the big rap stars came from in the past, but what their class position and role is now?

Make your case: bourgeois, petty bourgeois, proletarian, or what?

manic expression
12th February 2012, 11:27
It's not barbarity, but it is sexual objectification.
Don't exaggerate this, a guy looking at the butt of a female is completely harmless. Women "sexually objectify" men when they take notice of foot size or muscles...so what big deal.


That's like when people were saying "Smack My ***** Up" wasn't sexist because the music video showed that 'women can be abusers too'
Being some techno-ish track with a looped phrase, that's not the kind of music I'm interested in.


oh, and yeah, it is a big fucking deal when you can't even walk down the street without being oggled and hit on

Seriously, could you be any more of an apologist for sexism?
Yes, I'm certain that women would rather that men never look at them, talked to them or gave them any attention. That's a formula for gender equality if I've ever seen one.

gorillafuck
13th February 2012, 01:18
It's not barbarity, but it is sexual objectification.



http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/facepalm_fead82_197800.jpg

That's like when people were saying "Smack My ***** Up" wasn't sexist because the music video showed that 'women can be abusers too'


oh, and yeah, it is a big fucking deal when you can't even walk down the street without being oggled and hit on

Seriously, could you be any more of an apologist for sexism?dude, don't you listen to like, the dead boys? if so then you shouldn't tell other people not to listen to sexist music.