Do you have a mental illness/disability?

[Polyphonic Foxes]

So I was talkin' with this dude online and he's all "dude! Start a Bipolar/Communist alliance!" but I changed my mind but hey look here I am anyway whah?!


Ok, to be completely out with it I am officially diagnosed with:

Attention Deficit/hyperactivity Disorder- Primarily Inattentive
Bipolar Disorder
Aspergers Syndrome
Psychosis
Social Phobia

What I actually have is ADD, Schizoaffective and PTSD

Ok, try top that.

[NoMasters]

So I was talkin' with this dude online and he's all "dude! Start a Bipolar/Communist alliance!" but I changed my mind but hey look here I am anyway whah?!


Ok, to be completely out with it I am officially diagnosed with:

Attention Deficit/hyperactivity Disorder- Primarily Inattentive
Bipolar Disorder
Aspergers Syndrome
Psychosis
Social Phobia

What I actually have is ADD, Schizoaffective and PTSD

Ok, try top that.

I am diagnosed with cyclothymia and adhd. And quite possibly I believe I might have PTSD.

Oh and also extreme insomnia.

You take meds?

[Polyphonic Foxes]

You take meds?

Yes, Sodium Valproate (like Lithium) and Respirdal

[NoMasters]

Yes, Sodium Valproate (like Lithium) and Respirdal

Sodium Valproate? Are you talking about Depakote generic?

I took that drug for a while which eventually lead my doctors to find out I was actually cyclothymic, a rapid cycling mood disorder. Winston Churchill had it, so I am in decent company!

Resperidal is fairly strong isn't it? I take Abilify if my mood is aggravated past normalcy.

I take adderall 60mg a day, seroquel 50mg for sleep, and 250mg lamitrogine for my moods. You should talk with your dr. about lamitrogine (lamictal).

[Agent Ducky]

Try and top that? Is this some sort of competition?
One fucked up competition if you ask me.

[NoMasters]

Haha I think it is obvious he is being extremely cynical.

:laugh:

[Polyphonic Foxes]

To be fair I'm the least cynical person I know.

I've currently been under the effects of bipolar for about 5 months now, and I'm still in the residual stage of psychosis.

[NoMasters]

To be fair I'm the least cynical person I know.

I've currently been under the effects of bipolar for about 5 months now, and I'm still in the residual stage of psychosis.

Ouch.

Good luck man, it took me over a year to get stable.

[Nox]

Epilepsy (also on Sodium Valproate)
Social Anxiety

[Veovis]

Monopolar depression I've been diagnosed with.

I might have ADD because my mind wanders incessantly. I can hardly read a couple pages at a time in any given book.

[Искра]

Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD).

Don't fuck with me.

[gorillafuck]

depression. not sure if that actually qualifies as a mental illness, though.

[Sasha]

Burn-out
Anxiety disorder
Chronic hyperventilation
Insomnia
Now in a diagnose stage for adhd-i to see if thats maybe the underlying cause of ^

[Ned Kelly]

I'm a bi polar bear

[Landsharks eat metal]

Just dysthymia, Asperger's, and generalized anxiety.

[Ravachol]

I am diagnosed with cyclothymia and adhd. And quite possibly I believe I might have PTSD.

Oh and also extreme insomnia.

You take meds?

PTSD seems pretty serious. How does that manifest itself openly?
I know people who've lived through some pretty hefty shit in wars and people who've suffered at the hands of some serious repression (including torture) and even they don't show very obvious signs of PTSD, publicly at least.

[Искра]

A lot of people around me have PTSD. But then again I was raised on frontline (Osijek 1991-1995).
I really doubt that he has PTSD.

[PhoenixAsh]

PTSD can develop after any threat to physical or sexual integrity and/or existence in which one experienced an overwhelming sense of helplessness.

This can be living in the frontline, suffering physical and sexual abuse...natural disasters etc. The kind of things we are talking about are subjective but are generally in the case of phsyical and sexual abuse prolonged exposure or a situation which was extremely stressing and taxing. We are not talking about an occasional slap here.

Before a diagnosis of PTSD will be made rather than Accute Stress Disorder the symptoms need to be pressent for more than 30 days.

Symptoms include:

Re-experiencing of the event again and again...in the form of nightmares, lucid flashbacks or a severe psychological or physical reaction to anything associated with the event.

And one or more of the following:
- avoidance of things associated with situation or behaviour associated with the situation
- repression of memmories
- hyper vigilance or hyper activity
- anger issues
- lack of concentration

[Искра]

And one or more of the following:
- avoidance of things associated with situation or behaviour associated with the situation
- repression of memmories
- hyper vigilance or hyper activity
- anger issues
- lack of concentration
- depression
- violence and anti-social behaviour (for example, women abuse and shooting people in the streets...)
- excesive drinking or drug use
- problems with nervs (shakeing etc.)

A lot of war veterans have this and also civilians who were near war. In my town a lot of people suffer from this... so, I really doubt that anyone here have PTSD, except you were not war veterans or from war areas. I mean I don't have PTSD (nor anyone in my family) and 10 bombs were droped on my house (while I was in basemant), so I really doubt that many of you have experienced something like that and that you could develop such disorder.

[MotherCossack]

is this a joke?

o--k...... well .... let.... me ...see...

how to react.....?!.... well... seeing as i am actually already in trouble, it seems.....

i had better keep my.......eureka!!!

i was diagnosed only today.....

yes... you guessed it.....

I AM SPAM!!!!!!!!

How serious is that!?

I assume that it is in fact a mental health issue....

it seems that a symptom of being spam is paranoia and delusions that all moderators are out to get me!!!!

i feel a genuine panic attack sweeping over me and an overwhelming need to beg for mercy....!

[MotherCossack]

where does mental illness end and become an unlucky inability to adapt to our socially perverse, nonsensical existence ?

b.t.w. oh yes... i've got a healthy list of non-functioning, mental abnormalities.
how i choose to live with them is of far more importance, in my opinion.

[PhoenixAsh]

- depression
- violence and anti-social behaviour (for example, women abuse and shooting people in the streets...)
- excesive drinking or drug use
- problems with nervs (shakeing etc.)

A lot of war veterans have this and also civilians who were near war. In my town a lot of people suffer from this... so, I really doubt that anyone here have PTSD, except you were not war veterans or from war areas. I mean I don't have PTSD (nor anyone in my family) and 10 bombs were droped on my house (while I was in basemant), so I really doubt that many of you have experienced something like that and that you could develop such disorder.


I agree.

PTSD is an extremely rare diagnosis outside of actual life threatening situations like naturtal disasters and war.

So far the cases outside deal with very serious situations of direct threats. Murder attempts, prolonged physical and/or sexual abuse, rape etc. Though the experience can be entirely subjective most people who claim to have PTSD have never been diagnosed....and are more likely to suffer from severe anxiety disorders or acute stress disorder or something along these lines.

That said...I do not want to say that it is not possible for people here to have this specific disorder.

[Kornilios Sunshine]

I think I might have Derealization because I am like that for the past month. But I am feeling much better now. Although I have no mental disorder or trauma I can't find out what triggered it.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

So I was talkin' with this dude online and he's all "dude! Start a Bipolar/Communist alliance!" but I changed my mind but hey look here I am anyway whah?!


Ok, to be completely out with it I am officially diagnosed with:

Attention Deficit/hyperactivity Disorder- Primarily Inattentive
Bipolar Disorder
Aspergers Syndrome
Psychosis
Social Phobia

What I actually have is ADD, Schizoaffective and PTSD

Ok, try top that.
Bipolar (rapid cycling)
Oppositional Defiance Disorder
ADD
GID
PTSD
Gen. Anxiety
Anorexia
Bulemia
Addiction

And that is only what I remember at the moment.

[Sasha]

where does mental illness end and become an unlucky inability to adapt to our socially perverse, nonsensical existence ?

.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Patients%27_Collective

[Ravachol]

Oppositional Defiance Disorder




(..) an ongoing pattern of anger guided disobedience, hostilely defiant behavior toward authority figures which goes beyond the bounds of normal childhood behavior.


I always found this to be one of the most blatantly authoritarian inventions of the whole psychiatric circus and a clear show of it's role as a disciplinary apparatus.

http://www.humanistischecanon.nl/foto/michel_foucault_rechts.jpg

This fella would have a thing or two to say about it I guess..

[Искра]

Lol, that fella should be shoot for his writings :D

and also... why do so many of you (3 so far) claim that you have PTSD :D are you aware that you wouldn't be able to post so much here with PTSD or that you would write like Mother Cossack... I've spend at least 20 years around PTSD people and I know that all of you are probably full of shit.

I've never understood this obsession with having a psychical disorder or even posting it on Internet board...

[Le Rouge]

None?

Depression (rarely)

[runequester]

None.

[The Stalinator]

Why yes I do -- clinical depression, social anxiety, and anorexia nervosa!

[Agent Ducky]

I AM SPAM!!!!!!!!



That explains a lot.

[Azraella]

Post-partum deppression, PTSD, I'm a former opiate addict, and I have several phobias

[gorillafuck]

wow, there's a high ratio of people with ptsd in chit chat to the amount of people who have it in society....

I thought pstd was caused by war and extreme violence. have you all actually been exposed to that?

[Azraella]

I gotten my PTSD in response to being violently raped.

[Prometeo liberado]

I have a disorder whereas I can only take small doses of niece and nephew everyday yet get violent withdrawals if I dont get to see them. A lot like heroine. You can take oatmeal cookies for it, but that only lasts for an hour or so.:(

[gorillafuck]

I gotten my PTSD in response to being violently raped.oh okay. I did not know that could cause post traumatic stress disorder unless it was over the course of long periods. I don't know much about ptsd though.

[NewLeft]

I am not diagnosed with anything, but I haven't seen a psychiatrist or a regular doctor for that matter.

[Ostrinski]

Major Depressive Disorder, General Anxiety Disorder, and Aspergers Syndrome

On the other hand, I do consider my psychiatrist to be quite the pompous shithead.

[Polyphonic Foxes]

- depression
- violence and anti-social behaviour (for example, women abuse and shooting people in the streets...)
- excesive drinking or drug use
- problems with nervs (shakeing etc.)

A lot of war veterans have this and also civilians who were near war. In my town a lot of people suffer from this... so, I really doubt that anyone here have PTSD, except you were not war veterans or from war areas. I mean I don't have PTSD (nor anyone in my family) and 10 bombs were droped on my house (while I was in basemant), so I really doubt that many of you have experienced something like that and that you could develop such disorder.

This^ is what ignorance about mental illness looks like, he obviously hasn't any idea what he's talking about.

What happens to you doesn't decide whether or not you develop PTSD, it's how you react to it and you you feel about it. Some people go through many horrible things and brush it off their shoulders, some people need only be involved in a single thing and develop it. It doesn't matter what happened - what causes PTSD is more based on the personality of the person who has it.

I really wont stand for this..fucking "I've been through lots of crap but I don't have PTSD so no one else here does" how fucking dare you you dilapidated ****, you have no fucking idea.
But hey, you have ASPD, the dick of disorders, what's there to expect?

[Polyphonic Foxes]

oh okay. I did not know that could cause post traumatic stress disorder unless it was over the course of long periods. I don't know much about ptsd though.


It's pretty apparent that people claiming we're full of shit don't know much about it, since you and kontra are getting these stupid myths going like "only war vets get PTSD" or some shit

truth is, PTSD is based on symptoms, not the original situation, if you develop all the symptoms of PTSD for more than 1 month due to a car accident: you've got it.

[Polyphonic Foxes]

are you aware that you wouldn't be able to post so much here with PTSD or that you would write like Mother Cossack...

I'm also officially diagnosed with psychosis, which effects communication much more often - and yet here I am buddy.

[gorillafuck]

It's pretty apparent that people claiming we're full of shit don't know much about it, since you and kontra are getting these stupid myths going like "only war vets get PTSD" or some shit it.you act as if I was trying to convince people that you all don't have ptsd.

[dodger]

Life for me is a breeze, brothers and sisters. I'll let you all know, when it is not.

[RedAnarchist]

I'm not diagnosed with anything, and I don't seem to have any undiagnosed problems, although since my teens I've often felt that people didn't see me as me, but as someone else entirely, that someone else usually being a real life person or fictional character, and I would have to think about anything but the person I thought others saw me as. It was really bad in my teens and still occurs to some extent today, although I think it's mostly the product of an overactive imagination rather than anything to do with my mental health.

[Искра]

I really find hard to believe that on one internet forum 3 people of 6 who wrote their mental ilnesses have PTSD. Also, I find quite stupid to write such information on Intenret borad and as person who has quite experience when it comes to leftists I have good reason to believe that a lot of you are talking shit. You wrote whole bunch of disorders for which you'll have to be on heavy medications and under heavy survalence.

Also, I've grew up on frontline. You don't have to believe but there's few users here who can confirm that. The fact that I've grew up on frontline and later in fucked up post-war society means that I've meet quite a lot of people who have PTSD. I know how do they behave etc. which is why I believe that some of you are full of shit. People with PTSD have runined lifes to a lot of people here. Of course, I understand their problems, but also I don't approve their behaviour. If you have such problems, face them, cure them and stop demanding from whole society to feel sorry for you.

I've personaly have some traumas etc. caused by war and shit like that, but I've no intention to write that shit of borads. Except, if you really believe that I have anti-social disorder which is some kind of shit that every 15 years old leftist in Croatia wants to have to feel special.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

wow, there's a high ratio of people with ptsd in chit chat to the amount of people who have it in society....

I thought pstd was caused by war and extreme violence. have you all actually been exposed to that?
I was raped by my ex, beaten by my ex and he let other men pay him to have their way with me. He also put a knife to my throat. He also was very controlling cutting me off from all that I really knew.
I regularly wake up screaming and thrashing about, freaking out and I also get flash backs regularly.
Also, that ex was not the first person to abuse me in a relationship. He was just the most severely violent.

[Tim Cornelis]

ITT: self-diagnosed and hypochondriasis

[Quail]

I think I've only been officially diagnosed with bulimia nervosa and ocd. I have quite bad anxiety though which can make life quite difficult.

Once I noticed over my psychiatrist's shoulder she'd written "Quail drinks daily, which makes her bulimia worse"! Which was a bullshit lie! I really disliked that woman.

[runequester]

There's no way to ask this question without sounding like a jerk, so please forgive me, but I am quite curious about something, considering the vast disparities between rates of mental illness in the two different countries I have lived in.

How many of these ailments were diagnosed by a doctor and how many were self-diagnosed?

[The Stalinator]

There's no way to ask this question without sounding like a jerk, so please forgive me, but I am quite curious about something, considering the vast disparities between rates of mental illness in the two different countries I have lived in.

How many of these ailments were diagnosed by a doctor and how many were self-diagnosed?

Mine were all diagnosed by a psychiatrist. Beforehand, though, I kind of knew I had all three when I wouldn't eat anything except fruits in fear of getting fat, wouldn't talk to anyone in fear of humiliating myself, and thought about suicide all day alone in my room to pass the time.

The cost of a psychiatrist will absolutely bleed some people dry. Most people can tell when there's something wrong in their head.


ITT: self-diagnosed hypochondriasis

What a prime display of ignorance.

[Azraella]

There's no way to ask this question without sounding like a jerk, so please forgive me, but I am quite curious about something, considering the vast disparities between rates of mental illness in the two different countries I have lived in.

How many of these ailments were diagnosed by a doctor and how many were self-diagnosed?


My psychiatrist diagnosed me, I know I'm a former opiate addict, and I scared shitless of public rstrooms.

[Polyphonic Foxes]

you act as if I was trying to convince people that you all don't have ptsd.

Pardon me Zeekloid, you're right, I shouldn't have meant you, but Kontra only.

[Polyphonic Foxes]

How many of these ailments were diagnosed by a doctor and how many were self-diagnosed?

My Bipolar, psychosis, AS, ADD and Social Phobia officially diagnosed by several docs, my PTSD isn't something I've spoken to her about and I don't really care if I'm diagnosed with schizoaffective or not, since having psychosis and bipolar basically means you've got it.

I've repeated this maybe 3 times now, but Kontra persists: The severity of what happened to you is not what decides whether or not you get PTSD, it is your ability to cope that decides that, some people get PTSD from X, some people can brush it off. End fucking of.

And I can't believe he's pulling the "you're just attention whoring, none of you have seen shit, I've seen shit and I'm fine", you have no fucking idea what many of us have been through


I can't believe no one but me is arguing with this, am I totally alone in having an issue with this? Do I honestly have no support? Nice how I can rely on my comrades when someone is obviously being a bully.

But of course Kontra gets away with being a bully basically 100% of the time for inexplicable reasons.


if you really believe that I have anti-social disorder which is some kind of shit that every 15 years old leftist in Croatia wants to have to feel special.

To be frank you've done and said everything to suggest you're a sociopath in my short time of knowing you.

[GoddessCleoLover]

I sympathize with you, but the sad fact is that there is still a good deal of stigmatization regarding mental illnesses. My guess is that you have other sympathizers who don't want to jump into an message board controversy. Please try to be resilient and don't worry about the judgment of others.

[Искра]

To be frank you've done and said everything to suggest you're a sociopath in my short time of knowing you.No, I'm just not some little kid braging about serious ilnesses over internet. I've actually worked with PTSD people... and I've watched one guy killing himself, which are reasons I don't like when people write about stuff in this way. Then again 3 of 7 have PTSD... sorry crew I don't buy that, but I'll leave you to write your stuff.

[Polyphonic Foxes]

No, I'm just not some little kid braging about serious ilnesses over internet. I've actually worked with PTSD people... and I've watched one guy killing himself, which are reasons I don't like when people write about stuff in this way. Then again 3 of 7 have PTSD... sorry crew I don't buy that, but I'll leave you to write your stuff.

I hope - I hope to such a profound degree - that I am never a cynical **** like you.

[The Jay]

I have PTSD, ADD, and MDD. I'm special.

[The Young Pioneer]

Disabilities? I have a penicillin allergy. :scared:

And an irrational irritation at the existence of this thread.

Let's all go write some dark poetry and drink babies' tears. :p

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I hope - I hope to such a profound degree - that I am never a cynical **** like you.
I agree with your message but mind your language. But, yes, kontra is being an idiot.

[runequester]

I appreciate the responses comrades.

The reason for my inquiry is that there is significant difference in the amount of people diagnosed with mental disabilities between the US and Europe, and it is puzzling me.

[MotherCossack]

That explains a lot.

ooh!
somebody not all that keen on brutal honesty after all !?
hey!
let's be chums?!
i will if you do.

[heyjoe]

you are correct polyphonic. kontra you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Agent Ducky]

ooh!
somebody not all that keen on brutal honesty after all !?
hey!
let's be chums?!
i will if you do.

What led you to this conclusion? Your reasoning... it is... intensely hard to follow sometimes.
And okay, but only if you stop abusing interrobangs and derailing threads.

[MotherCossack]

being one of many moods, many of which even i cant explain
[ and there you have it.... one of many peculiarities which, i suppose, led me to this particular thread]
-to continue-
being a moody old tart... i was thinking of rewriting the above.... but ...you have read it ...so ...
lets do ...
CLARIFICATION!!!!!
i am clearly a jaded, ageing[and it shows!], unfulfilled, indecisive, impulsive, disappointed, grumpy, lazy, self-obsessed, inflexible, uncooperative, unreliable, scared, worried, obsessive, overly emotional [but not in a predictable fashion... i take empathy to a whole new level...almost debilitatingly so], irrational, unwilling to adapt, fearful of change, melodramatic, very irritating, obtuse, often stupid, over-sensitive. self-critical [to degree most would agree, unhelpful], unwillingly dependent, aggresive, stubborn, perfectionist, compulsive and on top of all that i have the nerve to claim that i dont like myself very much!

and you know what.... there is so much more but i'm a mum of 4, so i'll stop right there.
and i understand your trouble following my inconsistancies and the hopping, skipping, and jumping that characterises my train of thought.....sorry.
but i can honestly say that i have no idea what "abusing interrobangs" even means....

and i am horrified that you believe that i seek to derail threads.!

all i do is say what i think...[damn that infernal honesty.... in trouble again] ...i thought that is what rev-left is for!

whatever else is true... (e.g. the above all, at times, are] one thing that i most certainly do avoid is playing silly games.
saying one thing, meaning another...constructing a hidden agenda.... playing hard to get... inventing exclusive secret little clubs to ridicule the unsuspecting, trip people up, make them look stupid, skupper people....for no reason... power games..... ME - NO - LIKE - ! Nah... not interested in any o' that.
trust me... i am strictly a 'what you see is what ya get' kind of a girl.
[sherlock holmes would have held me in very dim regard.]
so if you like the sound o' that great ... i am up for it
or if you still hate my guts.... dont be too rough....like i said a while back, this chick breaks easily!!

[Quail]

I appreciate the responses comrades.

The reason for my inquiry is that there is significant difference in the amount of people diagnosed with mental disabilities between the US and Europe, and it is puzzling me.
I'm not sure that you're going to get a representative sample by asking a few people on the internet. There could be a variety of reasons for different levels of mental health problems. It could be to do with the amount of money doctors can make in the US by diagnosing something or the conditions in which people live. It might be better to do some research into it yourself.

I know quite a few people who are diagnosed with mental health difficulties. I think it's more common than people think because it's such a taboo subject to talk about. Although I might also know an unusually high number of people with certain problems because we have something in common.

[Agent Ducky]

whatever else is true... (e.g. the above all, at times, are] one thing that i most certainly do avoid is playing silly games.
saying one thing, meaning another...constructing a hidden agenda.... playing hard to get... inventing exclusive secret little clubs to ridicule the unsuspecting, trip people up, make them look stupid, skupper people....for no reason... power games..... ME - NO - LIKE - ! Nah... not interested in any o' that.
trust me... i am strictly a 'what you see is what ya get' kind of a girl.
[sherlock holmes would have held me in very dim regard.]
so if you like the sound o' that great ... i am up for it
or if you still hate my guts.... dont be too rough....like i said a while back, this chick breaks easily!!

"Interrobang" is a question mark and exclamation point put together. It's a great piece of punctuation, but isn't appropriate in every situation. Hi, I'm Agent Ducky, what's your name?! I like trains?! I have to do my duty as Spell Cheka Officer 2nd Class.

Speaking of trains, I'm not saying you intentionally derail threads. You do it though, unintentionally. A lot of people do, it's fine. Here we are talking about... well, what are we talking about? on a thread about mental disorders.

Also "still hate your guts" da fok? I've never hated you! In fact, I quite like you. Your posts make me laugh quite regularly.

I'm still pretty unclear on your point though. Are you implying that I'm doing what you said (ie saying things I don't mean, having a hidden agenda?) Because I don't do that. I'm just a sarcastic person and I tend to joke around with people a lot. So I can be brutally honest through sarcasm. and stuff.

You still confuse me though.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I think I'm a psychopath, is that a mental disorder?

[PC LOAD LETTER]

I think I'm a psychopath, is that a mental disorder?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism

Or, if you're into the self-diagnosis thing, check out "hypochondriasis"

[dodger]

I think I'm a psychopath, is that a mental disorder?

How can it be? A legal defence of murder would have to prove that a person believed he was battering a traffic cone rather than a fellow human being. To justify his actions as mental illness.
More and more human traits come under the category of mental illness. It must have started as ONE. Now in the US, there are several hundred. How did you reach that point. Are we all going bonkers? Are we any more nuts than our great grand-parents? There must be forces at work. What are they? It is true that a great deal of the stigma attached to mental illness has gone, though not enough. We all know a little about the subject. Not surprising, there can be few families that have not brushed up against it. What is certain is that their are pharmaceuticals who along with insurance companies have solid interests in categorizing yet one more human trait or foible as mental illness to gain funds or treatment. I predict shyness will be soon on the list. So be prepared, or eccentricity, incoherent? There will be folk with nets or therapists chasing you down, offering tablets counselling or even help from the almighty. I'll stick to leaches.

Along with self improvement motivational products(21billion a year), the whole mental health industry must at least be met with a great deal of scepticism. Before you all start going bonkers. There are people out there that really do need and deserve our respect and help.

[dodger]

There seems controversy brewing on what exactly is and should be classed as mental illness. Follow the link to Reuters feature and various articles. We need to be very sceptical and figure out a way forward. Resist the temptation to leave it to experts. An industry worth billions employs a whole army of academics, pressure groups, tame legislators and hack journalists. Labels are not for sticking to people, nor should any of us accept any title or label we feel uncomfortable with. All can be swayed by suggestion at one time or another. Especially at a vulnerable time of our lives. We need to stand up and take responsibility for ourselves. DO WE TRUST THE OTHER CROWD TO DO IT?


http://news.google.com/news/url?ct2=uk%2F6_0_s_1_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNEgUm5ud-w-tRFcQaoZvDIfG-xJRQ&cid=17593999782172&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Farticle%2F2012% 2F02%2F09%2Fus-mental-illness-diagnosis-idUSTRE8181WX20120209&ei=I8Q2T4D2LLCziQfZbw&rt=HOMEPAGE&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=-6066411306588902371&sid=en_uk-m



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[MotherCossack]

There seems controversy brewing on what exactly is and should be classed as mental illness. Follow the link to Reuters feature and various articles. We need to be very sceptical and figure out a way forward. Resist the temptation to leave it to experts. An industry worth billions employs a whole army of academics, pressure groups, tame legislators and hack journalists. Labels are not for sticking to people, nor should any of us accept any title or label we feel uncomfortable with. All can be swayed by suggestion at one time or another. Especially at a vulnerable time of our lives. We need to stand up and take responsibility for ourselves. DO WE TRUST THE OTHER CROWD TO DO IT

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
now see here mr dodger... you raise some very interesting issues and ask some excellent questions. i agree with what you are saying... we have got so used to waiting in lines, standing in assigned groups, awaiting instructions... from 'the people who tell us what to do, what to think, what we are, how to behave, who to reject, what is right and what is wrong....
we seem to have forgotten that each of us does possess the capacity to make valid judgements. we have become morally, socially and individually lazy. not on purpose and not all at once.... it has taken a few generations and no one is to blame.
but we now exist in a world where nobody really takes responsibility for the direction that our social groups are moving in.
i mean, do we even really know who or what is driving this train? can we trust them/it? and shouldn't we have a go ourselves?

[MotherCossack]

talking of head problems....
saw my bonkers in the nut doc only today...
a fresh new face... new blood, untried, untested, and
yep... hate to say it.... predictably....
wot a monumental wastage of time and outpourings.
said professional was as ineffectual as only the very cheapest toilet paper
tends to be.
the good ones leave... always replaced by a script- reading, wooden poorly cut replacement, who is terrified, of me, my behaviour and of having to treat me????
mostly they stick to the classics....
"you are not plagued with suicidal meanderings, at the moment, are you? no? no! well that is good.... well done.... you're coming along nicely.... when do you think we should meet next?"

or some such nonsense.
so ..... my new shrink is like ....... no life there then ...or toasted cardboard.

hurrah!

[Doflamingo]

I've been diagnosed with:
Panic Disorder
Agoraphobia
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder

and I believe that I have Depersonalization Disorder

[MotherCossack]

erm...
congraserations....or
commisatulations...
i hope you get better soon?

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I'm not sure that you're going to get a representative sample by asking a few people on the internet. There could be a variety of reasons for different levels of mental health problems. It could be to do with the amount of money doctors can make in the US by diagnosing something or the conditions in which people live. It might be better to do some research into it yourself.

I know quite a few people who are diagnosed with mental health difficulties. I think it's more common than people think because it's such a taboo subject to talk about. Although I might also know an unusually high number of people with certain problems because we have something in common.
I'm not sure, I used to see a psychiatrist at a free clinic in a homeless shelter and they had no problem telling me what's wrong with my head. They had no problem prescribing me prozac and all that stuff and they had no problem recomending intensive therapy to me. So is money the key to this and if so what money are they making off a homeless person who was getting their services for free?

Also, I think there is something inherently screwy about americans. period. My generation of americans are also offing each other in record numbers. The murder rate in the US is significantly worse than most of the western european countries and lets face it, my generation is generation pills and kills.