A Moment of Silence Please

[praxis1966]

I'm not sure what the attitudes about John Kennedy are on this board, but I really don't care. On this day in 1963 at 12:23 central time President John Fitzgerald Kennedy was assassinated. In those brief few seconds in Dealy Plaza, many Americans lost not only their future but their innocence. In the following years Vietnam would start for real, the civil rights movement would become violent, and Kent State took its toll.

I would like all of us to remember what we were, but more importantly what Mr. Kennedy would have liked us to become. As John once said, and Teddy would later repeat in his eulogy with only the love a brother could know, "Some men look at the way things are and ask, why; I choose to dream of the way things could be and ask, why not?"

[canikickit]

After Kennedy died was the first time Hunter Thompson used the phrase (in written form, at least) "fear and loathing". Fascinating stuff, eh?

JFK means nothing to me, to be honest.

[Pete]

I bet you would see Kennedy as an enemy if he did not die.

[praxis1966]

This was an attempt to appeal to our better selves... I don't really think hypotheticals or negativity serve any purpose here.

[canikickit]

The purpose they serve is the expression of my opinion. Perhaps it is a good thing that people lost their innocence and some eyes were opened to the way things are. You have to ask why things are the way they are before you can move on to the way things could be.

What President Kennedy would have liked me to become is of no concern of mine.

As it is a concern of yours, and as all this means something to you, Praxis, you should expand on it in reaction to my comments, not politely tell me to shut up.

[praxis1966]

Ummm... Actually I wasn't talking to you. But now that you mention it, I believe I was simply trying to encourage the populus here to attempt something greater than ourselves. Whatever the case may be, some form of contribution rather than payment. The formation of a grander world and future, and all that romantic nonsense.

My earlier comment was directed at Pete, not you... Someone who seems to think he knows what I would do were a certain hypothetical situation were to play itself out... Really, his name isn't He-Man and he's not the Master of the Universe.

[canikickit]

Sorry Praxis, my mistake.

Anyway, I can't really relate. Kennedy is just an assassinated president from another era to me. If anything, I just associate him with patriotic nonsense, to be honest. I'm not trying to imply that you are a nonsensical patriot - that's just how I see Kennedy and how he is portrayed.

It's interesting, because I remember asking my mother what the main media event she remembered from her childhood was, and Kennedy's killing was her response.

Anyway, here's some of what Hunter Thompson wrote to his friend, William J. Kennedy on this day, forty years ago:

We now enter the era of the shitrain, President Johnson and the hardening of the arteries...

...The killing has put me in a state of shock. The rage is trebled. I was not prepared at this time for the death of hope, but here it is. Ignore it at your peril. I have written Semonin, that cheap book store Marxist, that he had better tell his boys to buy bullets. And forget the dialectic. This is the end of reason, the dirtiest hour of our time. I mean to come down from the hills and enter the fray...

....The only hope now is to swing hard with the right hand, while hanging onto sanity with the left. Politics will become a cockfight and reason will go by the boards...

Pretty negative stuff. He was right, along came Nixon, Reagan....Bushes...

[Jesus Christ]

if anything, this should be a moment of silence for Lee Harvey Oswold, the pawn in the game

[truthaddict11]

JFK, good riddince to bad rubbish

[Ortega]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2003, 05:31 PM
JFK, good riddince to bad rubbish
i agree with truthaddict. he was a rich, spoiled, ivy leaguer who was totally out of touch with anyone but other millionaires.

[Hampton]

The Chickens Come Home To Roost (http://sweb.uky.edu/~jfmcdo00/bookshelf/chicken.html)

;)

[Bolshevika]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2003, 08:30 PM
if anything, this should be a moment of silence for Lee Harvey Oswold, the pawn in the game
Yep

[the SovieT]

why the fuck should i loose one fucking minute mourning a fucking USA president?


Deves tar é parvo

PARVO!

[swapna]

Kennedy is/was an illiterate and ignorant millionare(words of castro in UN) . He is no better than bush in terms of his brains. He is an American Impreialistic Pig who doesnt deserve a mintue silence.

[redstar2000]

As the overseer of the invasion of Cuba by U.S.-trained reactionaries and the guy who sent the first 15,000 U.S. troops to Vietnam, JFK was an imperialist asshole.

Domestically, he declined to order the FBI to protect civil rights workers in the American South from Klansmen and other racist groups.

He was raised, by the way, to be exactly as he was. His father, Joseph Kennedy, was fairly open in his opposition to the U.S. aiding Britain during the early years of World War II...and was thought to have pro-Nazi sympathies.

On the other hand, I have reason to be personally grateful to JFK. As a naive young kid, I worked in his campaign (on a very low level) and really thought he was "different" and "better". The invasion of Cuba taught me the real nature of imperialism...and the real nature of bourgeois politics.

Thanks, turd!

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[Blackberry]

Three cheers for the imperialist.

[Bolshevika]

RedStar: How old are you?! I thought you were in high school.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

LOL :lol:
No, redstar is in his 60s, if I'm not mistaken

[Rastafari]

the world didn't seem to change too when he was shot. Imagine if someone popped ol' Bush today. The whole world would be simultaneously attacked.

[Comrade Ceausescu]

Kennedy was a disgusting imperialist.He lied and said that he would help civil rights a lot.But then he really did not.He got what was coming.

[resistpsychicdeath]

"HOORAY"

[truthaddict11]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2003, 11:05 PM
LOL :lol:
No, redstar is in his 60s, if I'm not mistaken
i think he is 62

[canikickit]

I think he's 84.

[redstar2000]

Well, I have bad days and then really bad days.

Today, I feel about 130! :o

But tomorrow I may feel like a kid of 70...who knows? :P

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[Jesus Sanchez]

I think he got what was coming and deserved it. He didn't become president in an honest way, and then he made a war with the people who elped him become president