Your opinion on Lee Harvery Oswald?

[Bolshevika]

I must say, he had some brass balls and some incredible marXmanship (get it?!). He advanced Marxism-Leninism in the sense that he did away with an imperialist pig, Kennedy. He was an extremely Pro-Cuban revolution activist.

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[Jesus Christ]

I don't think he was mentally stable, and was a pawn in the assassination.

[Hampton]

Sandwich man is right, he didn't do it.

[praxis1966]

Get a grip, fella. Go watch Oliver Stone's JFK and you've only scratched the surface. BTW, just because he was president of the U$ doesn't make him an imperialist by default (no matter what Redstar says).

[Invader Zim]

He didnt do it, and was a member of the CIA, so yeah he did advance Marxist-Leninism... which is capitalism with a sickle.

[SonofRage]

Oswald was just a patsy. As for JFK, I don't know if he was an imperialist but I do now that he was very anti-communist.

[Kez]

of course he was imperialist.

By furthering the interests of capitalism you become an imperialists as imperialism furtheres the interests of capitalism...

i dunno if he did it, i doubt it in fact, as costner clearly proves :D

[suffianr]

By furthering the interests of capitalism you become an imperialists as imperialism furtheres the interests of capitalism...

Good point.

Now, allow myself to, er, introduce myself...

[Xvall]

Funny, considering that Oswald was a damned marine, and that he personally trained cuban exiles in the art of terrorizing their own people. Oswald didn't do it. Although I don't like Kennedy, his predecessors were even worse; so although I didn't personally care about his death, it wasn't really a good thing. I am fairly confident (As is 99% of the world) that Johnson was a much more viable canidate for the assassination.

[commieboy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2003, 12:43 PM
Oswald was just a patsy. As for JFK, I don't know if he was an imperialist but I do now that he was very anti-communist.
I agree about the whole pasty thing....there's no way he could have made those three shots in less than seven seconds and be that accuarate, not even today's best marksmen can shoot in that recreated enviornment. Maybe he could have shot one, but he wasnt alone....But i think he was communist, and even married a soviet woman....and he lived in the USSR.....i think he just wasnt told the whole truth about what was going to happen....As for JFK....all i can say he was/is good for is filling a 6ft deep hole!

[FistFullOfSteel]

oswald was a marxista and a anti-usa person i heard it from tv....

[LuZhiming]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 22 2003, 06:28 PM
I am fairly confident (As is 99% of the world) that Johnson was a much more viable canidate for the assassination.
I am not disagreeing with you, but I am curious on what facts do you base this belief? Anyway, Kennedy was an imperialist, he was the guy that openly claimed the U.S. was bombing South Vietnam, using chemical weapons to destory Vietnamise crops, and driving the civillian population into camps. And under the Kennedy administration, there were hundreds of terrorist attacks against Cuba and Cuban embassies.

[Funky Monk]

A couple of years ago i was reading into this for a school project, cant remember where it was but there was some evidence of him being a member of pro and anti-cuban groups.

Oh yeh, and he was a shit shot.

[Jesus Christ]

i dunno where you guys are getting your facts, but right after he became a member of the US military, he defected to the Soviet Union
he had nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs, it only shaped his beliefs

[SonofRage]

Originally posted by Funky [email protected] 23 2003, 10:37 AM
A couple of years ago i was reading into this for a school project, cant remember where it was but there was some evidence of him being a member of pro and anti-cuban groups.

Oh yeh, and he was a shit shot.
He was part of anti-castro groups only for the sake of gathering information (which caused him to get into fights with them when he left for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee). Oswald was not a shit shot. He was rated as a "sharpshooter" missing the highest level, master, by only one shot. He was an excellent marksman.

[Funky Monk]

The evidence i saw from his time at the Marines indicated that he only scraped into the unit.

And is anyone curious about his 'trip' to the USSR and how not only did the government let him out of the country but let him back in with his new wife who was the daughter of a Russian General

[YKTMX]

I think he was pretty nuts. I personally think he did assassinate JFK. Stone's movie is very good, but it isn't historical fact, he embelished a few things and simply made up other things in the pursuit of drama.

[Invader Zim]

OK time to post my real opinion: -

There is no evidence to suggest that it was Oswald which cannot be made to look questionable...

The only actual case against him was finger prints found on the rifle... to that I say, if you have a man who has enough knowedge and ability to actually pull off such a crime would then deside not to wear goves, yeah right. <_< Then not only that but when the rifle was initially searched for prints none were found... but a little later when the rifle was searched again prints were found, how convinient.

Not to mention the shot its self, to get three shots off in a period of 8.3 seconds on a moving target which would have forced the gun man to swivel on the spot inorder to keep the motorcade in target, and shoot at a target partially obscured by tree&#39;s, and the weapon in question had a dodgy sight. For anyone who has done a little shooting you would know that it is difficult to get 3 shots off in that little time (not however impossible) never mind with the difficulties which are included with this shooting.

Then for Oswald&#39;s escape, you ever tried to get down six flights of stairs, hide a rifle, buy a coke in something in the region of a minute and a half... before being seen by an officer who runs into the building yelling that JFK has been shot, and not appear to be even slightly out of breath?

All this is before you get into the magic bullet theory, and the accoustic evidence. The majic bullet theory however is flawed IMO.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bogus4.gif

You can clearly see that the bullet would have to turn in mid air etc... well actually it doesn&#39;t, because the layout of the car is wrong... Connally&#39;s seat was actually further in towards the centre of the car by about 6 inches and lower down so the tradgectory of the shot is in fact correct. But then we get into the relms of the Pristine Bullet, a bullet which passes through JFK then enter Connally shatter a rib exit connolly, enters his wrist, exists his wrist, and then enter&#39;s his thigh, and come out looking like this: -

p://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ce399.jpg (http://p://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ce399.jpg)

Note the tiny indents at the top of the bullet, the whole dammage the bullet sustained from entering two people four times, I think not.

The accoustic evidence basically records the sound of 4 shots being fired, on a cops microphone. Rather than the supposed three shots. I dont understand the evidence my self, so i wont try and explain it, however their is still even more complicated counter evidence to disprove this theory...

Then you get thw witnesses who claim to have heard a shot, seeing smoke, seeing a man run, smelling gun powder all from the grassy knoll.

Oswald did not kill JFK and even if he did he most certainly was not alone.

Edit: - Alteration of 1 minute to minute and a half, in escape paragraph.

[Invader Zim]

Part two: -

When viewing the actual location of the assasination, Elm St, once notices several things that were foolish in this assasination attempt if it really was a lone nut case. When looking at the actual plan of Dealey Plaza you can see that shooting JFK at Elm st was a bad move, because of the view being partially obstructed by tree&#39;s, and the road actually being curved, in short a harder shot. What would have been a far better easier shot would be to take Kennedy out down Houston St which was a perfectly straight and unobstructed road directly infront of Oswalds Window. The only reason he could have for waiting was so that the car could be caught in a triangular crossfire. The crossfire would be from the underpass, Grassy Knoll and the Book depository, the plan of the route clearly shows this: -

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The lone nut side then go on to say that surley Oswald would notice the conspiricy being framed around him long before the event, and tried to stop it, and point out he was not stupid. Well as the "lone nut" side try to paint him as an absolute fool who not only chooses a bad location to shoot, but also doest clean his rifle of prints, or wear gloves.

Conspiricy, it is an obvious text book framing.

[YKTMX]

But then we get into the relms of the Pristine Bullet, a bullet which passes through JFK then enter Connally shatter a rib exit connolly, enters his wrist, exists his wrist, and then enter&#39;s his thigh, and come out looking like this: -

The bullet was in fact designed to pass throgh many targets without being damaged.


Then for Oswald&#39;s escape, you ever tried to get down six flights of stairs, hide a rifle, buy a coke in something in the region of a minute... before being seen by an officer who runs into the building yelling that JFK has been shot, and not appear to be even slightly out of breath?

Oswald wanted to be caught. His whole life was about attention seeking, the assassination was not about politics, it was about Oswald seeking infamy. That was what his whole life had been about, from the defections to the re-entries to his supposed "communist" principles.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2003, 04:27 PM

But then we get into the relms of the Pristine Bullet, a bullet which passes through JFK then enter Connally shatter a rib exit connolly, enters his wrist, exists his wrist, and then enter&#39;s his thigh, and come out looking like this: -

The bullet was in fact designed to pass throgh many targets without being damaged.


Then for Oswald&#39;s escape, you ever tried to get down six flights of stairs, hide a rifle, buy a coke in something in the region of a minute... before being seen by an officer who runs into the building yelling that JFK has been shot, and not appear to be even slightly out of breath?

Oswald wanted to be caught. His whole life was about attention seeking, the assassination was not about politics, it was about Oswald seeking infamy. That was what his whole life had been about, from the defections to the re-entries to his supposed "communist" principles.
The bullet was in fact designed to pass throgh many targets without being damaged.

Actually not the bullet is supposed to pass through many targets without breaking up, big differance. And after entering effectivly 4 individual people, and coming to rest in someone&#39;s thigh, shattering two bones, you would not get that effect. Did you know that the FBI tried to reproduse the effect many times and always failed.

Take a look at this bullet: -

Edit wrong fucking pic... sort it out in a sec...

You trying to tell me that vertually identical bullets would look so different?

Oswald wanted to be caught. His whole life was about attention seeking, the assassination was not about politics, it was about Oswald seeking infamy. That was what his whole life had been about, from the defections to the re-entries to his supposed "communist" principles.

How does that phycological analasys of a man you have never met, relate remotly to the escape of Oswald from the 6th floor of the book depository to the ground floor in under 90 seconds.. and buy a coke etc, and not feal out of breath?

The fact remains no matter what you say about Oswalds past, no actual evidence exists which could not easily be falsified, against Oswald. Not to mention the fact that unless Oswald has super human abilities he has a rock solid aliby.

[Sabocat]

The bullet was in fact designed to pass throgh many targets without being damaged.


I&#39;m sure that you are referring to a bullet that is known as an FMJ or Full Metal Jacket. That does not mean that the bullet penetrates, strikes bone etc and remains undamaged. It is merely a copper jacket over the lead core to keep the bullet intact as Enigma indicated. It would be impossible for a bullet of that calibre to remain un-deformed after all those strikes.

The second thing to consider is that the alleged shot that Oswald made is just about the most difficult. Shooting from an elevated position on a moving target is in my opinion waaaayyyyy beyond the abilities of someone of Oswald&#39;s ilk with an old bolt action rifle. They have tried to reproduce the event with military sharpshooter with the same type of weapon and they even stated that it was impossible.

I also saw a documentary many years ago that matches the Zapruder film with the timing of the shots and the location of the window in the book depository. One of the shots actually happened while Kennedy was behind a road sign from Oswald&#39;s position. It truly would have to be a magic bullet to be able to get around that sign and still make contact with the intended victim. ;)

I think the most important feature of the Kennedy assassination wasn&#39;t that JFK in particular was killed, more that there was a quiet coup that was covered up with the help of the senators/representatives, corporate puppets on the Warren Commission. Keep in mind who was on that commission. Arlen Spector, Gerald Ford (president after Nixon), Allan Dulles (former director of the CIA), John J. McCloy, (former President of the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, former U.S. High Commissioner for Germany, and during World War II, the Assistant. Secretary of War). How could anyone possibly think that a commission made up of these people would "solve" anything? :lol: :lol:

[YKTMX]

The fact remains no matter what you say about Oswalds past, no actual evidence exists which could not easily be falsified, against Oswald. Not to mention the fact that unless Oswald has super human abilities he has a rock solid aliby

Ofcourse it could be falsified, all evidence can. But the fact that he was pictured with the gun, his fingerprints were on it, he worked at the depository, the shots came from there and he had definite mental problems and was the only employee not accounted for after the shooting. I don&#39;t see how not being out of breath proves he was super human at all. He was a marine, obviously very fit, it&#39;s not as if it was Pavarotti running down the stairs.


Not to mention the shot its self, to get three shots off in a period of 8.3 seconds on a moving target which would have forced the gun man to swivel on the spot inorder to keep the motorcade in target

The car was only moving at ten miles an hour. And I don&#39;t think "swivel" would be a fair term for the movement needed to keep the car in range.

[Sabocat]

I&#39;m not sure how mentally ill or disturbed Oswald actually was. It sounds to me like some more window dressing from the media. It&#39;s a lot easier to pin an assassination on a guy that is purported to be mentally ill.

Here is some interesting reading regarding events that day.

http://www.jfklancer.com/LNE/report35.html

Here&#39;s some testimony regarding the magic bullet and some pictures of the bullet.


http://www.jfk-info.com/fragment.htm


To top it all off, here&#39;s a quote from Jacqueline Kennedy. Oh yeah....they were friends of the left...

"He didn&#39;t even have the satisfaction of being killed for civil rights . . . . It&#39;s -- it had to be some silly little Communist." -- Jackie Kennedy, on hearing that a leftist had been arrested for her husband&#39;s murder.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2003, 05:13 PM

The fact remains no matter what you say about Oswalds past, no actual evidence exists which could not easily be falsified, against Oswald. Not to mention the fact that unless Oswald has super human abilities he has a rock solid aliby

Ofcourse it could be falsified, all evidence can. But the fact that he was pictured with the gun, his fingerprints were on it, he worked at the depository, the shots came from there and he had definite mental problems and was the only employee not accounted for after the shooting. I don&#39;t see how not being out of breath proves he was super human at all. He was a marine, obviously very fit, it&#39;s not as if it was Pavarotti running down the stairs.


Not to mention the shot its self, to get three shots off in a period of 8.3 seconds on a moving target which would have forced the gun man to swivel on the spot inorder to keep the motorcade in target

The car was only moving at ten miles an hour. And I don&#39;t think "swivel" would be a fair term for the movement needed to keep the car in range.
But the fact that he was pictured with the gun,

Ahh you refer to the infamous picks which were taken in his yard, the same ones which are highly contested because a powerful case can be made to show them as fakes. For example if you look at the angle of the shadow on his face and the shadow on the ground... and how they go in a different direction.

The car was only moving at ten miles an hour. And I don&#39;t think "swivel" would be a fair term for the movement needed to keep the car in range.

Having not been there at the time, I can only say what I have read... But nearly every thing I have read says that.

his fingerprints were on it,

Yeah your right they were... later after the initial check performed, which recovered nothing. But when another search of the rifle was made palm prints were found, that suggests either the investigation was made by idiots, or Oswald was framed.. if not both.

He was a marine, obviously very fit, it&#39;s not as if it was Pavarotti running down the stairs.

The important part of that sentence is was a marine by the time he "assassinated" Kennedy he had already had, moved to Russia, had 1 child, moved back to the USA, moved to Dallas, moved to New Orleans, got his wife pregnant again, then move back to Dallas. He was not in the marines any more... and therefore not under the same physical demands. Then we get into the realms of fantasy if you think that you can clean a rifle of prints, hide a rifle, run down however many flights of stairs, sort your change out, buy a coke, and be seen calmly not remotely out of breath, when an officer runs into the room less than 90 seconds after you’ve just shot the president of the United States. Ohh and something I forgot last time, run through several heavy fire doors which no one hears slam after you even though two ladies who also worked in the building descended less than a minute behind after you, and are just in time to see the office telling you that the president has been shot... right. Takes more than 90 seconds to say that never mind run it. :D


Disgustipated: -

Just reading your article I notice an error on their part (or what I assume is an error but in this case who knows what’s true and what’s lies): -

17. The Commission implies that Oswald could shoot well, and explains
his low rifle test scores as an indication that he wasn&#39;t interested in
them.

Oswald was a Marine Sharpshooter, which would suggest this to be unlikely, and often got excellent groupings. I am not an expert in Shooting or the US system for shooting. However I do recall he got 38&#39;s and 39&#39;s in his scores. I assume that’s good.

However I did like this: -

The Commission flatly states that Oswald tried to kill General Edwin
Walker, despite the fact that the bullet recovered from the scene was
not compatible with his rifle. It only "became compatible" after the
assassination, when it turned out to be a different kind of bullet than
Dallas Police had reported it to be in April.

Which kind of makes the whole investigation null, as if they can do it in that situation why not in the actual JFK assassination?

[Soviet power supreme]

Just look the film.The fatal shot on Kennedy didn&#39;t come from behind.

Why Ruby killed him?I just can believe that it was spontane act.

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by Soviet power [email protected] 25 2003, 07:47 PM
Just look the film.The fatal shot on Kennedy didn&#39;t come from behind.


Where the victims body moves after a gunshot is not at all conclusive of where the shot came from. The fact is Kennedys head wound has a rear right entry point, a shot impossible from the "grassy knoll".

[Jesus Sanchez]

I think he is a bloddy legend. The Wane Carey of assasinations. Kenedy got what was coming.

[Socialsmo o Muerte]

Firstly, don&#39;t take the film as evidence. Stone himself has said that there are various inaccuracies. It is a film "based" on fact. Not fact itself.

Second, theplot was a conerup from start to finish. Enigma has mentioned the limo route itself. Also, on eof the accuracies in the film was the part with a man only called "X" on the film. He would&#39;ve been organising security that day but was sent to the North Pole and the security was organised by his cheif commander guy who was linked with the secret service and the CIA.

As for the "back and to the left" argument, well ballistics and biology have proved that after being struck by a bullet, the body can react in many ways. Indeed, it is the entry wound that needs to be looked at.

Whatever you look at, the fact that the Warren Commission created such clear bullshit is disgusting. Concening that fatal shot, the diagram they give shows the bullet going up through JFK&#39;s head, suggesting it came from below the level of his head.

But this is all crap. We&#39;re fed the "Who?" and the "Where?" and the "How?" to keep us on the edge of our seats and stop us asking the real important question: "Why?"

Kennedy was going to get all American forces of of Vietnam by 65. Months after his death, LBJ doubles the number of troops in Vietnam. Kennedy refused air cover at the Bay of Pigs. He embarrassed the institutions. He and Bobby decreased the power of the CIA. He ended up being surrounded by enemies in his own establishment.

We need to ask why.

As for Oswald, as if it really matters, he was a complete nut. He probably picked JFK off with at least one bullet, but there was more than one gunman. From what I&#39;ve read he seemed a determined Left winger.

And I finally have to say hats off to praxis1966 for pointing out that being USA President doesn&#39;t make you an imperialist pig by default. JFK was a hero who would&#39;ve changed the world. Changed the world too much for his own institutions&#39; liking.

[Urban Rubble]

I cannot believe there is actually someone alive who believes Oswald acted alone.

Have you ever studied the evidence YouKnowTheyMurderedX ?

[Socialsmo o Muerte]

Actualy, YouKnowTheyMurderedX has a valid argument.

It&#39;s not one that I subscribe to, but recent studies have proven that the "Magic Bullet" wasn&#39;t that magic. The reason it was seen as "magic" before was because the Warren Commission got Connaly and Kennedy&#39;s seating positions wrong. When it is studied properly, the seating positions of the two allow a bullet topass straight through and give the wounds that they recieved. And as he says, the bullets used are specially designed to pass through more than one target without being damaged.

Like I said, I don&#39;t believe this, but it&#39;s a valid argument.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Socialsmo o [email protected] 17 2003, 02:49 PM
Actualy, YouKnowTheyMurderedX has a valid argument.

It&#39;s not one that I subscribe to, but recent studies have proven that the "Magic Bullet" wasn&#39;t that magic. The reason it was seen as "magic" before was because the Warren Commission got Connaly and Kennedy&#39;s seating positions wrong. When it is studied properly, the seating positions of the two allow a bullet topass straight through and give the wounds that they recieved. And as he says, the bullets used are specially designed to pass through more than one target without being damaged.

Like I said, I don&#39;t believe this, but it&#39;s a valid argument.
Yeah I spent quite a while explaining why the majic Bullet theory isn&#39;t remotly magic.

[Socialsmo o Muerte]

Ahh, sorry about that. I just went to the latest post and joined in from there.

[Ian]

Originally posted by El Grande of [email protected] 5 2003, 04:51 AM
The Wane Carey of assasinations.
Mate he didn&#39;t fuck Jakie Onassis, Wayne Carey is a pretty boy who can take a mark.

[j.guevara]

Oswald was no Marxist-Leninist if you research his defect from America to go live in Russia you will notice the peculiar circumstances of his stay there ( the Soviets gave him a place to stay, the US army had him take a Russain language test before he left) Im not sure but he was some kind of spy or CIA agent, perhaps a double agent. His pro-cuba act was bullshit. He was also hangin out with the anit-castro groups in New Orleans. Im not sure what his true loyalties were but i seriously doubt he was a Marxist-Leninist.

[Marxismliveson]

Oswald did kill JFK, he worked alone, there is no conspiracy, the film has no truth in it, there was no second shooter, Oswald was a communist who lived in the USSR for a few years, had a wife and kids in the USSR, he was refused entry to Cuba, then he decided to use his marine expertise to shoot the president of the USA JFK

In my opinion Oswald was a Comunist who did something to better the world around him

[Soviet power supreme]

What about the mob?

I heard that some mobster had confess the killing in the late 80s to his lawyer and the lawyer mustn&#39;t reveal this secret until the mobster dies.

The mobster is dead now and his secret is revealed though I dont remember his name.

[Le Libérer]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 22 2003, 06:28 PM
I am fairly confident (As is 99% of the world) that Johnson was a much more viable canidate for the assassination.
I am of this same beleif, or more so his wife, Lady Bird Johnson. Her family had quite a bit of power.

[Le Libérer]

Originally posted by Soviet power [email protected] 2 2004, 02:07 AM
What about the mob?

The mobster is dead now and his secret is revealed though I dont remember his name.
His name was Carlos Marcellos. He was the kingpin of New Orleans, La. (right redstar2000)?

My grandfather Ernest grew up with Carlos and he frequently visited the family restaurant. My grandma managed all of Carlos&#39; restuarants in N.O. and met her future husband Ernest thru Carlos. And thats all I have to say on the subject :ph34r:

[Danton]

People, you are insane.. Lee Harvey Oswald commited this crime alone and unabetted, bloody hell I thought this one had been put to bed.

Oswald was a trained sharp shooter and was in fact top of his class, score cards show him consistantly hitting targets far further than he needed for the assassination. Any who knows anything about firearms knows that anyone half competant can get off the necessary shots with time to spare, in fact in a recent tv show an 80 year old man demonstrated just this, on a moving target...

I&#39;m not going to get technical, I haven&#39;t the time or inclination but all the conspiracy theories have been totally discredited, the second shooter, the magic bullet etc... I forget the name of the recent programme I saw but it was pretty conclusive, seek it out it is far flung from Stone&#39;s artistically liscenced, factually inept film....

He was a loner, an attention seeker with delusions of grandour, rejected by the Soviets and Cubans his failed attempt on another target sent him over the edge and he popped the president... Look at him in the footage of his final hours, grinning like a cheshire cat, proud of hiself because he had gone down in history just like he always wanted...

Enigma, you are something of a Walter Mitty charachter :lol:

[Le Libérer]

I havent formed any opinions based on a movie. Being so close, demographically and such, has lent an insiders eye to my beleif. And in NO way do I beleive Oswald acted alone. He was a puppet, just as most assassins are. The truth will come to be, soon enough. Just like everything else does.

[Le Libérer]

Okay now that I&#39;ve gotten my thoughts together, heres what I think about Oswald.

I beleive there was a coup, by the American government. Think about it. JFK felt he had been deceived by his advisers. He was killed by officials in the US government who disagreed with his policies. He was on the brink of dismantling the CIA. He was furious with the Pentagon for trying to force a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Russia. He was furious at having been set up at the Bay of Pigs. He was deliberately misinformed by his trusted advisors. He was betrayed, thus a dismantling.

Johnson, I beleive knew about this and cut a deal. He diverted the attention of the US people by furthering the was in Viet Nam. Lady Bird Johnson was on the board of directors of Brown and Root, the same Brown and Root that&#39;s in Iraq today: a subsidiary of Halliburton (Texas politics - oil, money, murder) Both Johnson and Lady Bird made their fortune in Vietnam.

I beleive Oswald allowed the CIA to use him, tho he wasn&#39;t innocent. It served his purpose. He got what he wanted, he was a celebrity. If JFK hadnt been killed in that parade in Dallas, it would have happened eventually.

And I do beleive there are other characters in this whole senerio that will one day be revealed. And it will be a complete surprise to all who they were.

[redstar2000]

People "love" conspiracy theories, don&#39;t they? :D

Perhaps because sometimes there really are conspiracies. Or perhaps because it makes history "more interesting"...I don&#39;t know.

Here are some I&#39;ve heard over the years...

Raul Castro "did it"...through Cuban agents that had infiltrated the gusano community in Miami.

The "mob" did it...they thought they had a "deal" with JFK to get back into Cuba and when JFK didn&#39;t provide air support at the "Bay of Pigs", the mob was really pissed off.

The most violent and reactionary gusanos "did it"...to pay back JFK for his treachery at the "Bay of Pigs". It would have been easy for them to recruit a nutball like Oswald. I kind of like this one, myself.

LBJ "did it"...for obvious reasons. In addition to his "vaulting ambition", it&#39;s known that LBJ personally despised Kennedy.

There&#39;s no question but that JFK was an imperialist turd. Check out The Dark Side of Camelot for the gruesome details.

On a personal note, the assassination of JFK was the occasion of my ***first interview*** with the FBI. I was a member of the "Fair Play for Cuba Committee" (in the midwest, not in the south). I was able to truthfully reply that 1) I had never met or corresponded with Oswald; 2) I had never been to New Orleans; and 3) I had never been to Dallas.

Whew&#33;&#33;&#33; :P

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[Le Libérer]

Well I asked for it, and I got it&#33; Thanks for your imput RedStar2000. You and I agree, i see to a certain extent. :D

[truthaddict11]

On a personal note, the assassination of JFK was the occasion of my ***first interview*** with the FBI

first? were you interviewed after going to Cuba and meeting Castro and Che?

[redstar2000]

first? were you interviewed after going to Cuba and meeting Castro and Che?

The bastards were at my door when I got out of the taxi from the train station. :o

By this time, of course, I had learned that one can simply reply to every question that "I have nothing to say unless I have an attorney present".

That usually puts an end to the problem...unless they really think that they can pin something on you.

The FBI wanted to talk to me about the "Weather Underground" as well...fortunately, those people didn&#39;t like me so they didn&#39;t inform me of their plans or locations. I was able to tell the FBI that the "Weather Underground" would no more tell me anything than they&#39;d tell Richard Nixon...which was the truth.

It was a time...

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A site about communist ideas

[Looter]

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This is the most incredible site, very imaginative.

[Penguin Chariot Archer from Hell]

Oswald was a patsy in my opinion. Kennedy was an imperialist pig who got what was coming to him. Its a shame every president from washington on couldn&#39;t get this treatment.

[Le Libérer]

I was talking to an old high school friend of mine and brought up the subject of Oswald. He said his dad witnessed the shooting. He also had an8 millimeter camera that filmed a man on the grassy knoll firing shots. He was close enough to see the image of the man oin the knoll. He said, the CIA showed up at his house here in Shreveport (about 2 hours from Dallas) and confiscated the camera and film. Then he said, "What if that man was Jack Ruby?"

I believe my friend, cuz when I asked his dad about it, he nervously heistitated, and said, "No, no that never happened". It also makes me wonder what tactics the CIA used on him to make him so scared.

As far as this account, beleive it or not..... I know I do. Its very possible.

[j.guevara]

if you think oswald acted alone you dont know much about what happened that day.