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General.Worker
2nd February 2012, 08:32
hi all, i wo uld to tell you about some parties and left ideologies that we can't say they are left parties because they are some anarchism guys and they don't understand anything!!
i have to start with some histories,
when Carl Marx made a party it was social democrat , it means a democratic social live, the name of the ideology was communism, the ideology was supporting workers and all proletarians,the party was believing dictator of the proletariat, when Marx dead, while the world was busy with revolutions and understanding communism some stupid guys had reject dictator of the proletariat , when revolution of Russia had being started V.Lenin had change the name of the party to socialist because of treason and anarchists, after the revolution while he made a USSR he change the name again , because the people weren't understanding it , we have to know that all governments are dictator and we have to make a dictator of the proletariat state, but there were more anarchist like Stalin!!!,so after V. Lenin an anarchist leader had destroyed the ideology of communism and the revolution,now we have to make a ideology that anarchists can't support and and we will not support them , we will not support nationalism , religion , and capitalism, we will support workers , just workers, this ideology is made by a Persian guy he were in Komala (Social of Marxist -Leninist party), but the party was a Kurdish nationalism party , so he came out and he made a new ideology , his name was Mansour Hikmat and the ideology is Worker-Communist, there are some parties in meddle-east like Worker-Communist party of iran - Hikamist ,Worker-Communist party of iraq,Worker-Communist party of Kurdistan, what we have to do is we have to believe dictator of the proletariat and we have to be united , maybe we have to make a new leftist ideology and begining a Marxist revolution again , what is important is we have to contact all leftists and we have to be united , that is all , long live socialism , long live communism, long live workers , and Long Live revolutionaries.
G.Worker

Firebrand
2nd February 2012, 21:30
I am struggling to understand what you are trying to say. I think the main point you are trying to get at may be that the left has been weakened by internal arguments. But i'm not sure. Can you clarify please?

Prometeo liberado
2nd February 2012, 22:21
Can I just get a little time put back on my life clock for having gone through that?:confused:

General.Worker
4th February 2012, 11:40
i'm trying to say , we can make a success revolution but we have to make a new left ideology that including right subjects from old left ideologies,so we have to know that we can't make a revolution with this ideologies/using it:
Social Democrat
Socialist
Communist
etc.. , and i told you last ideology is Worker-Communist but now the Worker-Communist of Iran (it is biggest) party have schisms, so we have to make all this leftist united and we have to make a new ideology to use it to the next revolution

Ostrinski
5th February 2012, 03:36
S/he is saying that we have to be pragmatic in the way that we choose our model of organization. That we shouldn't look for old models to respond to current conditions with. To which I completely agree.