I don't believe in planning

[Elysian]

Is this the wrong attitude? I just act according to situation, hardly ever plan anything. It seems useless because what we plan may be contradicted by circumstances. So why plan? Why not just act according to circumstances?

[NewLeft]

You need to plan certain things.. Try meeting up with people without planning anything..

Basing decisions on the current situation without taking into account the future sounds like a plan for a disaster.

[Искра]

Even liberals plan economy. Read Hayek.

[feral bro]

planning is the basis of our oppression.

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[gorillafuck]

so if you were to visit relatives, you wouldn't call ahead and see what the best times to do it would be?:laugh:

[PC LOAD LETTER]

so if you were to visit relatives, you wouldn't call ahead and see what the best times to do it would be?:laugh:
Most of my family just shows up at eachothers houses.

Usually with whiskey.

I guess it's a southern social norm? I know several other families that do this.

I'm going to do just that in a little while.

[gorillafuck]

Most of my family just shows up at eachothers houses.

Usually with whiskey.

I guess it's a southern social norm? I know several other families that do this.

I'm going to do just that in a little while.I meant relatives who live farther away.

but yeah I'm from New England and I don't know anybody who's family does that.

[dodger]

I must admit when I left my job on the tube I took off my watch and have not put it back on since. It was a liberating experience after all those years a slave to the clock. Literally.,
Now I can please myself, strangely time has become more important, things I want to do, places I want to see, books I want to read. Some are terrified of time, sad to say, hate being retired. I was told by a retired train driver who led a seminar "It's YOUR time" and that is what rattles people. 45yrs on a treadmill with every move planned out in detail, literally every second, it is almost being thrown over an abyss. Me, I listened to the advice and planned my time accordingly. In short I adapted. You simply can't move a million people a day across London without planning. At least they are doing it now without me. When I was 40yrs I was offered a place at Oxford, plans went awry, domestic reasons. Again at 62 retiring early to get to college finally. Family circumstances conspired against me, plans went pear shaped. Dam I got my sailing boat as far as Sardinia and the Somalia pirates started acting up.I'm useless at plans, never mind I got an outrigger canoe with sail and the whales come twice a year, they got their lives planned like clockwork. Why can't I?

[Elysian]

so if you were to visit relatives, you wouldn't call ahead and see what the best times to do it would be?:laugh:

The best time to visit your relatives would be ... never.:laugh:

[PC LOAD LETTER]

I must admit when I left my job on the tube I took off my watch and have not put it back on since. It was a liberating experience after all those years a slave to the clock. Literally.,
Now I can please myself, strangely time has become more important, things I want to do, places I want to see, books I want to read. Some are terrified of time, sad to say, hate being retired. I was told by a retired train driver who led a seminar "It's YOUR time" and that is what rattles people. 45yrs on a treadmill with every move planned out in detail, literally every second, it is almost being thrown over an abyss. Me, I listened to the advice and planned my time accordingly. In short I adapted. You simply can't move a million people a day across London without planning. At least they are doing it now without me. When I was 40yrs I was offered a place at Oxford, plans went awry, domestic reasons. Again at 62 retiring early to get to college finally. Family circumstances conspired against me, plans went pear shaped. Dam I got my sailing boat as far as Sardinia and the Somalia pirates started acting up.I'm useless at plans, never mind I got an outrigger canoe with sail and the whales come twice a year, they got their lives planned like clockwork. Why can't I?
You must be fun as hell to bring to a bar, dodger.


I meant relatives who live farther away.

but yeah I'm from New England and I don't know anybody who's family does that.
It's interesting how social norms vary so much in the same country. People here would be offended if you were upset that they showed up, at least in the evening. Now, friends are a different story. I wouldn't care if my friends showed up randomly, but I'm sure most of them would get annoyed if I didn't call first. That definitely varies ... even here.

[dodger]

The best time to visit your relatives would be ... never.:laugh:

Elysian....you made a joke! I laughed.....that felt good.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: :thumbup::thumbup::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::lau gh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laug h:

I hope you were joking! Seriously joking....

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Elysian....you made a joke! I laughed.....that felt good.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: :thumbup::thumbup::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::lau gh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laug h:

I hope you were joking! Seriously joking....

Guess that depends on the relatives. Apart from my immediate family the rest can go drown for all I care. :lol:

[Elysian]

Wasn't Karl Marx againt planning? Just wondering.

[RedAtheist]

Capitalists plan the production of commodites and it seems to work out pretty well for them (not for the people producing the commodities though.) Do you think people should randomly produce things without having any idea what to do with them after they are made? How can that work?

[Firebrand]

I believe planning should be kept to an absolute minimum. Because inevitably the more elaborate your plan the more likely something is to go wrong. If there is no plan at all nothing can go wrong and life is an adventure. However that can also lead to ending up in adventurous situations, so it is important to always carry a phone, some kind of map (doesn't have to be of where you're going, the important thing is to have one), enough money for a cab, and some kind of sugar based food. If you have all these things then the plan will take care of itself.
Of course if you are actually trying to achieve smething its best to have some kind of basic plan but as long as you keep it to a minimum then not too much stuff can go wrong.

[kitsune]

Some things need to be planned more precisely, but I always like to leave myself a lot of leeway to adapt to circumstances. Like if I'm going on a trip, I need to know the train schedule and I need to know where I'm going to stay. Am I going to book a room? Where and when and for how long? Am I going to stay with friends or family? Whatever the case may be, I need to make arrangements.

What to do while I'm there is much more fluid. Maybe I want to see the shiba sakura, so we'll do that at some point. Then: well, we were going to go here today, but it's rainy. Let's do this instead. I remember one time taking a trip specifically to spend some time at one place, but when we woke up in the hotel that first morning we decided to do something else entirely. We chucked the whole point of the trip without a second thought and had a blast doing something completely different.

Sometimes planning is absolutely essential. Sometimes planning is very useful. Often spontaneity is the best option. I prefer the latter as much as is appropriate to the circumstances.