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The Old Man from Scene 24
30th January 2012, 06:01
Would making regional networks of human transportation be a possible way to 'seize property' into the hands of the proletariat? I mean starting out with some old buses and creating a regional transportation system run cooperatively.
Die Neue Zeit
30th January 2012, 06:07
That's an interesting approach to Alternative Culture, provided that these services are run on a legally "non-profit" basis.
The Old Man from Scene 24
30th January 2012, 06:24
That's an interesting approach to Alternative Culture, provided that these services are run on a legally "non-profit" basis.
Yeah, I don't yet know of a good system for running rather expensive vehicles on a non-profit basis, which is obviously needed. Coincidentally, I happen to be working on a project in High School right now; I'm studying about alternative fuels for vehicles. That could lower the costs to run them, depending on what type of fuel.
Lanky Wanker
30th January 2012, 11:05
That's an interesting approach to Alternative Culture, provided that these services are run on a legally "non-profit" basis.
Why the quotation marks?
Die Neue Zeit
30th January 2012, 14:47
"Non-profit organizations" need some sort of excess for their land, building, and equipment funds, and here I am using the US fund accounting terminology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fund_accounting#Nonprofit_organizations) only because international standards have yet to be made.
The Old Man from Scene 24
31st January 2012, 01:23
Transportation in also an interest to me in my non-political life, which is why it came to my mind first. However, there are obviously many other industries that need proletarian attention as well. What other kinds of services would be most effective if they were taken under control by the proletariat? Edit: I mean in an earlier period of time (as eventually everything must be in the hands of the workers). In other words, what might be best to seize first?
The Young Pioneer
31st January 2012, 01:46
I'm game, but we gotta make it look like this:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4136/4865223379_9cce4b9832_z.jpg
The Old Man from Scene 24
31st January 2012, 02:02
I'm game, but we gotta make it look like this:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4136/4865223379_9cce4b9832_z.jpg
Haha, yeah :lol:
But in seriousness, I was thinking more of a 'schedule and arrive' system. I would love a static bus route, but that would probably require 100+ buses. I was thinking that there might be a few twice-three-four daily inter-city trips. I guess it's not as 'regional' as I made it sound. My biggest concern is where to run service and who would actually ride it, if people are even interested at all.
Polyphonic Foxes
31st January 2012, 02:15
I think we already have stuff similar to this, I know that here in Ireland we have sort of cycling carriages that bring you around for free and are non profit charity based - they're quite popular.
Just a thought.
The Old Man from Scene 24
31st January 2012, 02:31
I think we already have stuff similar to this, I know that here in Ireland we have sort of cycling carriages that bring you around for free and are non profit charity based - they're quite popular.
Just a thought.
I have considered the possibility of 'networking' certain groups that specialize in certain categories. It may make an organization more useful to put it in partnership with organizations like farming co-ops and small product services (small goods produced cooperatively). It would basically be a framework that provides open service and care to people. You're right that there are already services like this, but I'm saying that their all individually focused on specific things. I wonder if it would make the socialist cause more affective if these individual groups were linked to a central organization that could act as a major resource for public needs.
kuros
31st January 2012, 16:42
What exactly do you mean with this, that we should ban cars and only allowed public transportation?
The Old Man from Scene 24
31st January 2012, 23:57
What exactly do you mean with this, that we should ban cars and only allowed public transportation?
http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2011/06/full-12369-13965-can_t_tell_if_trolling.jpg
Um... No? I'm saying that people who don't want to pay giant corporations for transportation should have the option to use non-profit transportation if they want to.
28350
1st February 2012, 00:54
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What I recommend are strikes demanding gratuity.
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Have the trains, the metros, the buses running freely and you will provoke healthy emulation everywhere, you will awaken the creativity of each person.
Firebrand
1st February 2012, 20:37
In other words, what might be best to seize first?
Communications. So phones, TV, radio, newspapers, the lot. Communication is key, if they can stop us talking to each other the revolution can't happen. If we can all tak to each other not only does it help the revolution it helps forge stronger connections between people wich allows people to explore new ways of thinking and learn about each other.
I agree transport is also very important, and food industries maybe, oh and water, gas, electricty etc
danyboy27
1st February 2012, 20:52
We have a similar system here in Quebec. People call or go to the website to see if there are people going to x destination and schedule a place for the pickup.
http://www.allostop-quebec.com/voyage.php
I never took it but a lot of folks in my family did and they loved it.
workersadvocate
1st February 2012, 23:45
What exactly do you mean with this, that we should ban cars and only allowed public transportation?
Don't tempt, so very tempting, especially in America.
I have not owned a car EVER and I was born in the 70s, so not being hypocritical.
Fuck the killer rat race and macho bullshit class-elitism called "car culture".
1 out of every 20 is drunk driving. Cops are far more likely to jack you in a car.
Cars breed social isolation and worse, because people think they can start shit then just zoom off without any accoutability. If your car has to speak about your worth, you ain't worth much. If you want the freedom to be a yeehaw asshole on public roads, I think you should have it in the context of mass public transit, where the other riders and driver can drag you out and beat your ass silly. Anti-social bullshit no longer tolerated, because no chance to escape and pretend it's someone else's problem.
Do I have to mention pollution thanks to the auto industry?
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