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RebeldePorLaPAZ
20th November 2003, 19:24
It appears as they are still out there large in numbers. Al-Qaeda still operating and now looking as if there stronger than a few months ago in my opinion. They have been linked to I believe three bombings in three weeks. I think that’s correct if I’m not than correct me.

These weren’t small bombing either, they seemed really big. The last one killed around 27 and injuring over 400 so it only looks to be as if they are getting bigger.

Just wondering, what do you think is going on with al-Qaeda? Do you think they are still out there in large numbers or do you think these are desperate last minute hopes to get new members? I don’t think it is what about you?


--Paz

Jesus Christ
20th November 2003, 19:33
honestly, I dont think that Al-Qaeda is behind these bombings, and that they may very well are being carried out by the US to gain support from the UN
but, if it is Al-Qaeda, then it does look to be that they are gaining big numbers and getting larger

And it sure doesnt look like they are becoming desperate with ease at which they are carrying these bombings out, if it is them

Marxist in Nebraska
20th November 2003, 19:46
I am not sure if Al-Qaeda is behind the bombings or not. There is no reason to believe that they are not involved.

The Bush administration has never seemed to me to be that insistent on destroying them. Of course, Afghanistan was invaded under the premise of routing Qaeda and destroying their infrastructure. The greater interest seems to have been in getting a pro-Western man in charge to get an oil pipeline through the country.

I understand that Al-Qaeda is regrouping in Afghanistan and now seems to be present in Iraq as well, which was not the case during Saddam's rule. I do not know if this indicates a growth on the part of Al-Qaeda...

Soviet power supreme
20th November 2003, 19:55
I was reading a internet site that told me that al-qaeda wasn't behind the 9.11.

What do you think?

Many people don't believe the U.S explanation about that attack.

toastedmonkey
20th November 2003, 19:59
I dont know if its Al-Qaeda, i imagine not though.

The U$A are yet to provide any evidence to prove it was them that were behind the attacks on 9/11 (the 2001 version)
It seems to be another simplification by the west, viewing eveyone as a "goodie or badie" if they can say all the bad is coming from one source then its easy to justify war.

The attacks in Istanbul, are good timing for all but the families involved.

From the terroist side (Whoever it may be) they've attacked Britian on a BIG day, showing their 'strength'
From the American and British politics side, it was absolutly perfect timing, hours before Bush n Sidekick Blair were to give a joint speech about their (it aint mine) war on terroism, these attacks shows evil exists in the world still and they will attack Britain. Just what the imperialists needed, more justification.

Soviet power supreme
20th November 2003, 20:12
How the hell Turkish goverment know that al-qaeda is behind those attacks in Istanbul?

Turkish radical groups are already confess that they are behind those attacks.

Marxist in Nebraska
20th November 2003, 20:23
Originally posted by Soviet power [email protected] 20 2003, 02:55 PM
I was reading a internet site that told me that al-qaeda wasn't behind the 9.11.

Many people don't believe the U.S explanation about that attack.
What website was this? You have to be careful because there is a lot of inaccurate shit on the web... and a lot of black helicopter conspiracy theory crap, too.

It is true that the United States has done a pitiful job of proving the case against Al-Qaeda, and Bush has benefited so much from the attack that one does have to scratch his head and wonder if there was government involvement. Michael Moore wrote in Dude, Where's My Country an interesting theory that Bush's relationship with the bin Ladens and the U.S.'s protection of Saudi Arabia put blinders on intelligence agents that prevented them from properly investigating the attacks on the trade towers beforehand...

Soviet power supreme
20th November 2003, 20:30
Well it is a finnish site but there are good links.http://members.surfeu.fi/11syyskuu/119.htm

For example why 8 of those terrorist were alive after the attack?
http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/alive.html

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
20th November 2003, 20:36
Al'Qaida and muslim fundamentalists are the new threat to the Western World aka "The Free World", according to our Propaganda Ministers. It's intended to keep the civilians in fear and justify Imperialistic movements (Also think of Patriotic Act). Just like Communism played this rol during the Cold War.

It's not necessarily that Al'Qaida really excecuted the terroristic attacks on 11/9 and the late bombings in Turkey. It could just as well be other groups, but blaming Al'Qaida makes the threat of Al'Qaida seem real. It makes the population even more frightend and ready to tolerate more Imperialistic movements.

I am certain that they have gained popularity and members, because of their attacks against American Imeperialism and Israel. But still they don't seem big to me. Remember you don't need much people to plant bombs. It's not a difficult operation. (Think of Oklahoma bombing)

Acting like those groups are big, makes the threat seem real. Especially when overexagerating their capacities. Simply to justify Imperialism.

Marxist in Nebraska
20th November 2003, 21:01
NSB is right about "terrorists" being the boogymen that the U.S. imperialists must destroy to keep the world "safe for democracy" in the 21st Century, just as the "Communists" were the menace of the 20th century.

With the menace of a foreign terror hanging overhead, the idea is that the workers will serve their masters and rally behind nationalism and "self-defense." This has often worked--fear is a powerful tool of control. Whether the menace of Al-Qaeda is real or imagined, the fear is real. That is the important point.

Looter
20th November 2003, 21:33
Al Kaida is a completely bogus organization fabricated by the US media. Osama bin Laden has always been a CIA agent, how could he be behind 9-11 when he was off in Afghanistan? The occupation of Afghanistan has had no effect on terrorism. You really need to understand that whenever anyone says anything about Al Kaida they are talking pure BS, there is no such thing!

Saint-Just
20th November 2003, 22:36
I think they seem to have been more active recently because they have changed their tactic. Maybe I am wrong but they seem to go for very easy targets. However, you could argue not every attack attributed to Al Quaeda was actually committed by them, you could argue as to whether their movement is particularly effetive at all.

Intifada
21st November 2003, 17:30
al quaeda warned countries that support action in iraq that they will strike them hard. they did. the war in iraq and now the occupation of iraq is pissing the militants off so obviously this fucking attack was inevitable.

end the occupations of iraq, afghanistan and palestine (plus others) and the attacks will stop.