Benefit cap defeat will be reversed, say ministers

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Ministers will seek to overturn a Lords defeat for controversial plans to cap benefits for households at £26,000, when the bill returns to the Commons.
The Welfare Reform Bill looks set to "ping pong" between the two chambers, after peers voted to exclude child benefit from the overall cap.

More on BBC Website - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16694991

I know our second chamber is completely unelected and undemocratic, but what's the point of having any second chamber if the Commons / the Government are going to push ahead with it anyway?

[Oswy]

Ministers will seek to overturn a Lords defeat for controversial plans to cap benefits for households at £26,000, when the bill returns to the Commons.
The Welfare Reform Bill looks set to "ping pong" between the two chambers, after peers voted to exclude child benefit from the overall cap.

More on BBC Website - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16694991

I know our second chamber is completely unelected and undemocratic, but what's the point of having any second chamber if the Commons / the Government are going to push ahead with it anyway?

Yeah, they should either have an elected second chamber of some kind or just do away with it. Even in liberal terms the idea that the UK has a great democracy is a sham.

[Firebrand]

To be honest i don't think anyone thinks we have a great democracy. It's just that when you take an honest look at it its not as if anyone else does either, so why go to the trouble of changing something that sort of works for something else that sort of works.
If you try and make the system more democratic you just end up getting all worked up only to be totally dissapointed and dissillusioned when it turns out to be pretty much the same.
The general attitude I see is that its not worth putting all your energy into a largly symbolic change that will have little or no effect on the actual situation.

[ed miliband]

Yeah, they should either have an elected second chamber of some kind or just do away with it. Even in liberal terms the idea that the UK has a great democracy is a sham.

Why should revolutionary leftists care about the arrangements of parliament?