question: why is a graduated tax needed in Marxism

[j.guevara]

im a relative novice in Marxism but i dont understand why a heavy and graduated tax is one of the 10 plaques. It seems like you hand over so much freedom after a marxist revolution. I cant see how its worth it. Why build such a monsterous State?

[Marxist in Nebraska]

First of all, what are the "10 plaques"?

Second of all, the idea of a graduated or progressive tax is that people who make more can afford to and deserve to pay more. This is not even a radical measure--it is championed by liberals. The line I have heard to justify it is, "Those who benefit the most from the system have an obligation to give more back."

And what does a graduated tax have to do with having a "monsterous state" or surrendering freedoms?

[j.guevara]

thanks for your responce the plaques i was reffering to is the set of ten precepts for communism in the manifesto. im not sure what is the correct name for them. and your right the taxes have nothing to do with the monstrous State that was an unrelated question really.

[Mike Fakelastname]

I'm confused, how would people pay tax if there were no currency?

[Iepilei]

Currency isn't abolished. Capital is.

[RevolucioN NoW]

Effectively a communist revolution would lessen the importance of currency until it is abolished.

No tax when there is no currency.

:ph34r:

[Mike Fakelastname]

Originally posted by RevolucioN [email protected] 19 2003, 11:06 PM
Effectively a communist revolution would lessen the importance of currency until it is abolished.

No tax when there is no currency.

:ph34r:
Yeah, that's what I had thought. I always had thought Communism would have no need for curency, because everything you needed would be provided, and you could take whatever else you wanted for free. That's my view on perfect Communism.

[Saint-Just]

Its part of the transition to communism. Marx suggests these points as the first measures for workers to bring about a more egalitarian society.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by RevolucioN [email protected] 19 2003, 11:06 PM
Effectively a communist revolution would lessen the importance of currency until it is abolished.

No tax when there is no currency.

:ph34r:
I am not sure where this "no currency" concept is writen about. Where would I find info on it?

[RevolucioN NoW]

Did not marx say "to each according to his needs", I considered this to entail the abolision of currency under a communist state, with commodities distributed evenly and without any means of exchange.

Of course there would be value for some commodities, such as computers, and these would be distributed accordign to availability.

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Originally posted by RevolucioN [email protected] 20 2003, 04:33 PM
Did not marx say "to each according to his needs", I considered this to entail the abolision of currency under a communist state, with commodities distributed evenly and without any means of exchange.
Marx indeed gave an ideal of, "From each according to his [or her] ability, to each according to his [or her] needs." He wrote that line in his work, Critique of the Gotha Program. He was not original in saying it--he was quoting a French utopian socialist (Blanc, I believe). Marx did not specify how we would distribute according to needs, at least not in that pamphlet.