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Sasha
13th January 2012, 10:47
All good things come in threes.
BLOCK DRESDEN 2012 – Making the fascist march in Dresden history.
Over the past two years we have been able to achieve, what many have previously deemed impossible: We have successfully blocked the fascist march in Dresden. Thousands of Nazis did not succeed in marching through Dresden to display their inhuman ideology.
For years the Nazis have tried to link their annual demonstrations to the remembrance of the bombardment of Dresden in February 1945 and to the related myth of the “innocent city of Dresden”. Supported by the fact that the city of Dresden has ignored the march for a long time and by a lack of decisive protests by many citizens of Dresden the Nazis have been able to establish one of their largest gatherings in Europe with up to 7.000 participants. But the growing presence of Nazis in Dresden has been stopped, largely thanks to the decisive resistance of more than twelve thousand proterstes in 2010 and more than twenty thousand people in 2011 who stopped the Nazis from marching through mass blockades.
We speak out against every form of revisionism. Old and new Nazis must not have the opportunity to glorify German history or to glamorize the crimes of fascist Germany. On February 13, 2012 we will therefore once again visit the places of crimes committed by Nazis in Dresden to keep alive the memory of fascist history.
„To say what we do, and to do what we say“ – has been our guiding principle which will continue to guide us in 2012! We stand united in our goal to stop the fascist march through large scale blockades. Our goal is not to confront the police. We are committed to blocking the Nazi march – but we will not initiate any escalation. We show solidarity with everybody sharing our goal of blocking the fascist march.
„Our strength is driven by our diversity“ – has been our creed which will continue to guide in 2012! With a broad alliance of anti-fascist groups, local initiatives and groups, trade unions, political parties and youth associations, religious groups as well as numerous other organizations and individuals we have made it very clear: Our blockades are legitimate! Dresden concerns us all!
Anti-fascists have been under pressure from authorities in recent months: The illegal tracking of mobile phones, politically motivated lawsuits, and even withdrawals of parliamentary immunity will not intimidate us. Attempts to divide us will not break our solidarity. We stand united and we will not be divided. Civil disobedience is our right, our blockades are legitimate.
Let us not be intimidated. Our protest in February is also directed against undermining our right to assembly and against the government spying on us. In Dresden, authorities are consciously trying to push aside the principle of proportionality to establish a complete supervision of protesters. Together, we stand united against these attempts to intimidate us and to limit our civil rights.
Like in 2010 and in 2011 we will block the Nazi’s march in Dresden in 2012. A series of murders committed by Nazis hiding in Saxony underscores once again the relevance of the anti-fascist movement. Anti-fascist engagement must not be criminalized, anti-fascist engagement needs to be supported. For years, attacks, fascist violence, and the discovery of weapons in the hand of German Nazis have been trivialized. No more!
We will not let the Nazis march. We will block them in Dresden. Colorful and loud, creative and decisive.
Never again fascism. Never again war.

http://www.dresden-nazifrei.com/images/stories/material/2012/plakat2012.jpg

Original + multi-language translations @:
Http://www.dresden-nazifrei.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=226%3Aaufruf-englisch&catid=43&Itemid=54&lang=de

As soon as I have more info on busses, sleeping arrangements etc I will post them below.

See you on the barricades!

Princess Luna
13th January 2012, 20:43
Sorry if this is off topic, but how is Dresden being innocent a myth? I have read several sources that say the German army had largely pulled back to more defensable cities, and abandoned Dresden, so the allied forces could have taken the city with very little fighting, and the purpose of the bombing was for demoralization.

Obs
16th January 2012, 12:32
I've never been to the Dresden blockade before. How's it usually turn out?

Sasha
16th January 2012, 12:53
I've never been to the Dresden blockade before. How's it usually turn out?

I've been a couple of times back when there where still counter demonstrations being organised. Which was very frustrating because there where always 20.000 cops and a river between us and the Nazi's so most confrontations where with the cops or en route to dresden on highway parkingplaces.
This will be my first blockade.

Tim Cornelis
16th January 2012, 13:25
Sorry if this is off topic, but how is Dresden being innocent a myth? I have read several sources that say the German army had largely pulled back to more defensable cities, and abandoned Dresden, so the allied forces could have taken the city with very little fighting, and the purpose of the bombing was for demoralization.

And have the nazis use it as an excuse to propagate their hatred? But you're right, bombing of Dresden was a war crime.

Sasha
16th January 2012, 13:42
Sorry if this is off topic, but how is Dresden being innocent a myth? I have read several sources that say the German army had largely pulled back to more defensable cities, and abandoned Dresden, so the allied forces could have taken the city with very little fighting, and the purpose of the bombing was for demoralization.

In most of the german radical left the position is that there where no "innocent germans", a false position of course but understandably considering the disgusting whitewashing after the war in which even the wehrmacht was absolved for decades shifting all blame for war crimes towards the SS.
Its the same here where after the war suddenly every dutch person suddenly was in the resistance while in fact far more collaborated than even supported the resistance.

Sasha
17th January 2012, 14:40
o.k.
there was some confusion about the dates (also for me) so this is whats up:
on the 13th of februari the nazi's have a "small" torch march, mobilisation against this march will be local only altough people from abroad are welcome too of course.
the huge international nazi march is expected for the 18th this will be also the day for the blockades, friday the 17 th there is the traditional warm up antifascist demonstration, the 19th atari teenage riot and others will give a solidarity concert.
the most complete info i have found until now is in this PDF: http://www.dresden-nazifrei.com/images/stories/material/2012/dresden-nazifrei_praes2012_v7_lang-en.pdf

people traveling from/through the netherlands/ruhr contact me and w'll see if i can set you up with our bus from germany and sleeping places.

The Douche
18th January 2012, 05:04
How many people will get upset if I say "bomber harris, do it again"?

PhoenixAsh
18th January 2012, 05:36
Dresden was not an innocent target. While methods used were fucked up and can be considered a crime of war...Dresden itself was contributing heavilly to the German war effort and the extermination and concentrationcamps. It manufactures arms and amunition for all parts of the army including the u-boats. It also manufactured biological weapons (poisoned gass) and anti aircraft guns.

Its industrial complex was entirely geared towards the war from the late 30's. with 60.000 workers working in 110 factories making equipment for the German army.

It was a huge transportation hub for POWs, Concentrationcamps and military personal and equipment to and from the front line. Every day 20.000 troops passed through the city to and from the front line 120 miles away...offcourse also numerous supplies passed through the city which, next to being railway hub was a mayor river line port.

It is also not true that Dresden was undefended. It was until the 13th of februari hevailly fortified by AA guns and gun emplacement. On the 13th most of these were ordered to the Russian front line....a fact which was unknown to the Allies at the time.

PhoenixAsh
18th January 2012, 05:39
Also....the bombing of Hamburg....many more deaths by the way.

Dresden is used as a propaganda tool for the Nazi's and sad to say by the DDR

Sasha
18th January 2012, 10:27
There are strong rumors that the fash are cancelling the (inter)national march because of their utter failure last year and the pressure they are under after the scandal over the nazi terrorist cell broke. (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvenceremos.sytes.net%2Fartdd%2Farti kel%2Fco%2Fein-nazi-grossaufmarsch-weniger.html&act=url)
I will let you all know as soon as i know more.

Sasha
18th January 2012, 10:34
How many people will get upset if I say "bomber harris, do it again"?

The correct slogan is: bomber Harris flaggebrand, Deutschland einig ackerland!
Although I prefer the "stalingrad was wunderbahr, mein nazi Opa sterbe da"...

His Dudeness
20th January 2012, 20:31
It will be my second blockade if I manage to go there. I'm pretty much broke, but I will find a way to go to Dresden.

klsv
14th February 2012, 09:57
site's down at the moment, how have things been in dresden?

thälmann
15th February 2012, 16:34
on the 13th, the march had to turn around after a some 100 meters because of the blockades.

wat will happen on the 18th isnt clear, because the fascists dont mobilise openly for the day, but there is the possibility that they do somethibg spontaneus

thälmann
16th February 2012, 21:20
although there is still the possibility of some fascist aktivity on the 18th in dresden, it is more likely to be a big antifascist demonstration to celebrate the victory over the greatest fascist demonstration in europe, and also against the huge repression against antifascists in connection with the events the last year. ( building of a terrorist group and so on.)

AntifaArnhem
19th February 2012, 08:48
There where no nazis at all, I'm heading to bed now...

marl
20th February 2012, 20:26
Huge antifa turnout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgIOxgthvPA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbYtQZ5GKVc

Little to no fash turnout.

Sasha
20th February 2012, 20:35
thats a shit load of antifa... now i regret again that i didnt go

POUM
21st February 2012, 10:51
This is all great,but i would like to point out that every year in Budapest the nazis and ultranationalists go almost unopposed...why is this?

btw what's the origin of the blue-white stripped flags with the red triangle?

Sasha
21st February 2012, 10:58
This is all great,but i would like to point out that every year in Budapest the nazis and ultranationalists go almost unopposed...why is this?

Bad organisation/mobilization of counter actions?



btw what's the origin of the blue-white stripped flags with the red triangle?

It's from the organisation for leftist former concentrationcamp prisoners, the concentrationcamp uniforms where blue/white striped with the red triangle being the mark for political prisoners.
I'm not Sure how it is in Germany but here that flag is used by the Marxist-leninists while the autonomist-marxists/anarchists use the AFA flag (even though the original AFA was a KPD organisation.

POUM
21st February 2012, 11:44
I think that leftists in Hungary are not that many, and the nazis get alot of international far right support at those Day of Honor rallies. So i was wondering if there are any antifa solidarity actions with Hungary since it is probably the most fucked up country in the EU concerning the far right.

I mean it's kind of weird that dresden gets this massive antifa turnout,and i mean massive, and only few 100 km away, in the same week, a roughly same number of nazis gather and they get almost unopposed.

Sasha
21st February 2012, 12:05
Seem there was a small mobilization last year: http://indymediacall.blogspot.com/2011/03/antifascist-demo-in-budapest_4486.html?z&m=1

The antifa resistance in dresden didn't start that much bigger a few years a go.

Maybe get in touch with AFA Budapest and volunteer to help mobilize for coming year: http://afafi.blog.hu/

thälmann
21st February 2012, 13:45
regarding hungary: i think the far right in hungary is much stronger and have a lot of open sympathies in the government. So such a successfull action against the fascists there would include much bigger confrontation with the police as it was already in dresden. i think that ten thousands of people are necesarry for that, and it would be very difficult for foreigners to travel there, and much important, to get out of hungary afterwards.


(QUOTE)It's from the organisation for leftist former concentrationcamp prisoners, the concentrationcamp uniforms where blue/white striped with the red triangle being the mark for political prisoners.
I'm not Sure how it is in Germany but here that flag is used by the Marxist-leninists while the autonomist-marxists/anarchists use the AFA flag (even though the original AFA was a KPD organisation.[/QUOTE]


in germany this flag is used by the vvn/bda(society of People Persecuted by the Nazi Regime – Federation of Anti-Fascists ), an organisation wich is very near tp the dkp.
the afa flag is mostly used by more militant antifascists, in different colours acoording to ideology. anarchists Black/black, autonomous red/black, communists red/red....and so on

Sasha
21st February 2012, 14:35
Here they are called Antifascistische Oud-Verzetsstrijders Nederland / Bond van Antifascisten, they are close to the NCPN/CJB (they splitted from the CPN after the CPN condemned the suppression of the Prague spring, they are still very stalinist).