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Paul
8th November 2001, 19:45
On October 20, US troops went in to Afganistan on a mission. The Pentagon released footage of it.
Cnn report here (http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/20/ret.afghan.attacks/index.html). Just like a movie. In and out, GO AMERICA.
Oh what a lovely war.

Also from a CNN story:
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CNN's Catherine Callaway spoke with retired Army Lt. Gen. William Odom to get more insight on this mission

ODOM: I think, more than anything else, it's their very special training. Every one of these soldiers and officers has had to perform outstandingly in some other unit. There is no better trained organization. The kind of raid that you've just witnessed there is practiced frequently by the Rangers. So, for them, this is sort of standard operating procedure. In a real mission, however, it's very high risk, but...

CALLAWAY: Yes ... there was some report that there was some Taliban resistance, but you're saying these Rangers were more than prepared for this type of encounter?

ODOM: Well, I think it's the finest light infantry in the world. Now, the Afghans, sure, they're great fighters, but they haven't been up against this kind of capability before. The Soviets had no units of any size, maybe some small commando intelligence ... units, but nothing compared to the capabilities of these (units) have the Taliban or other Afghan units faced before.
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uh-oh, whats this?

Delta Force caught in ferocious Taliban ambush (http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4292852,00.html)
The Pentagon's only publicly announced commando raid on Taliban positions, hailed as a success and beamed around the world in video pictures hours later, actually went badly wrong, seriously injuring American soldiers, sources in Pakistan said yesterday.

The debacle, which saw US Delta Force soldiers come under intense fire from the Taliban, prompted a review of special forces operations in Afghanistan and seems to have led to a delay in similar behind-the-lines operations

A raid led by Delta Force commandos on a Kandahar compound of the Taliban's leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, ran into heavy resistance, causing serious casualties. One soldier's foot was blown off.

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But it's all ok, cause the US denies it all
From the BEEB:
"The force that went in on the ground, there were a couple of parachute injuries that we expected... and there were some other wounds from some... of the activity that they were undergoing, but none of it was inflicted by the enemy," said General Richard Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"I've not read the article but I've heard that it portrays that we ran into some stiff resistance - that's simply not true. There was no resistance, the Taleban were in complete disarray," General Myers said.

Jurhael
8th November 2001, 20:00
Hmmm...well, being that this IS combat, why can't they just be honest and admit that the Taliban are NOT easy enemies?

CheGuevara
8th November 2001, 21:07
I don't doubt the Taliban can inflict serious casualties, and I definitely don't approve of, in fact I detest, the Defense Department's whitewashing of the war in Afghanistan. However, when attacking with infantry, where there isn't nearly as great an equipment and training, or at least experience, discrepancy, from a military standpoint, managing to blow off the foot of some US soldier in exchange for several casualties is not a very good trade off for the Taliban.

reagan lives
8th November 2001, 21:58
You do know that the Army Rangers and Delta Force are two completely different things, right?

vox
8th November 2001, 22:03
Hey reagan lives, if you could read, you'd realize that there were two separate stories posted in the first post of the thread. I've always thought you were stupid, now you've proved it beyond a doubt.

Hush now, the grown ups are speaking.

vox

reagan lives
8th November 2001, 22:35
vox, it's obvious to any objective person that Paul is trying to make some connection between the two stories in the post. Otherwise, why are they both there? My point is that they have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

celticsocialist
9th November 2001, 00:37
Paul, was it a Norway - England game that that phrase came from? That is a true classic.
Maggie Thatcher, Winston Churchill, your boys took a hell of a beating. :)

Jurhael
9th November 2001, 01:57
The Delta force and the Army Rangers may be two different entities, but they are used for the same purposes.

CheGuevara
9th November 2001, 03:56
Quote: from Jurhael on 2:57 am on Nov. 9, 2001
The Delta force and the Army Rangers may be two different entities, but they are used for the same purposes.

Boo-yah.

Anonymous
9th November 2001, 05:21
Reagan if you want to descredit a post you should at least have the trouble to read it fully, including the links, because if you dont your just going to make a fool out of your self arent you?



vox, it's obvious to any objective person that Paul is trying to make some connection between the two stories in the post. Otherwise, why are they both there? My point is that they have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

why are they both there? because they where acting together

"Delta Force is a primarily anti-terrorist unit based at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Its existence is never formally discussed, nor are casualties. Its members are trained to attack with stealth in small teams, but the Kandahar raid was a noisy production, involving a back-up force of 200 rangers, AC-130 gunships and 100 Delta Force commandos." ---> quoted from the article in the Guardian paul makes reference too.

but of course you would know that if you bothered to read the hole thing before bothering us with your "reply"

(Edited by El_Che at 6:23 am on Nov. 9, 2001)

revolutionary spirit
9th November 2001, 19:29
he also just posted something that was besides the point,maybe so to change the subject,because he couldn't stand up for his beloved America on this occasion