Ecstasy

[CommieTroll]

I looking for some info on the drug Ecstasy, I've never taken it before but I've been offered it a few times. I just want to know a bit about the drug before I take it, learn the pro's and con's and what the general high is like. I'm considering taking them with few friends for a really big party with probably every teenager in my town going. So any tips for a first time user? (dosage, effects ect.) Thanks

[Os Cangaceiros]

Ecstasy makes you feel really, really good. Really good. In fact I'm hesitant about taking it again because I feel like I could become addicted to speed if I did. I took it a few times...most of the feeling I got was just being really happy combined with kind of a warm tickling feeling that spread throughout my entire body. You have to know what you're getting is actually ecstasy, though...also temper the comedown with weed, is my advice.

[CommieTroll]

Ecstasy makes you feel really, really good. Really good. In fact I'm hesitant about taking it again because I feel like I could become addicted to speed if I did. I took it a few times...most of the feeling I got was just being really happy combined with kind of a warm tickling feeling that spread throughout my entire body. You have to know what you're getting is actually ecstasy, though...also temper the comedown with weed, is my advice.

I smoke weed all the time so that's not a problem but my friend told me that nothing else will work on you like smoking a blunt won't effect you. He tried pure MDMA and took more than the recommended dose and he said it was the scariest experience of his life. He said the pills are really good but the comedown is horrible. The talk of ''intense inner peace'' and ''a strong feeling of self acceptance'', has me really excited. Do you know if it's like LSD where your mood and enviornment effect your high?

[Misanthrope]

You experience euphoria. Every single moment is better then the last on the way up. The come down for me isn't bad at all because I'm completely satisfied with the way up. Definitely smoke weed to chill out when you pop E.

It's not a good idea to take E if you're in a bad mood because then the come down will be bad. Take it when you're having a great day.

[CommieTroll]

You experience euphoria. Every single moment is better then the last on the way up. The come down for me isn't bad at all because I'm completely satisfied with the way up. Definitely smoke weed to chill out when you pop E.

It's not a good idea to take E if you're in a bad mood because then the come down will be bad. Take it when you're having a great day.

Thanks for the advice, I'll be in an amazing mood, that I'm sure of:)

[Sasha]

Yeah, make sure you have time the next day for a serious hangover, no school, no work, no family. It works on your dopamine so you might feel a bit down the next few days, this will go away by itselfs but can be speeded up by after E mixes that are sold at headshops.
Biggest danger is overheating so dont wear synthethic clothing, dont wear a beany or a cap.
Dehydration while on E is a myth, mdma actually messes with your kidneys so you are at far greater risk to get waterpoisioning than dehydrate, if you take it while chilling drink something every so much hours, if you get cottonmouth rinse or chew gum, if you are at a party dancing your ass of you can drink a bit more but half a litre (preferably isotonic) every two, tree hours is more than enough, again chew gum and/or rinse.
Its a stimulant so there is not much danger for combination use (never use two different narcotics at the same time as that is very dangerous) but still i advice you to not to mix, a beer and a smoke tops.
I assume where you are you cant test your pills but do make sure that you get it from someone who you trust and who takes it him/her self too. Think in advance who you can go to/call if you freak out and will be sober at the time.
Effect is like sad a very happy cuddly feeling, depending on the purity there can be speed mixed in so prepare for some agitation.
Do not take it on a place or with people you dont feel secure, i recomend the forrest/nature or at home with friends listing to music or watching nature documentairies or such. If your at a party make sure its a party where you know people and there is space to dance/ hide in the speakers. No one wants a weirdo trying to cuddle with everyone on their small birthday.
Effects last, depending on dose and way you take it between 2 to max 6 hours.
Start with a half or even quarter, if you like what your getting after say an hour increase the dose.
Go with the flow, dont fight it, if you feel like dancing start dancing, if you feel like talking find someone to talk with, if you feel like cudeling find someone who feels too but dont think, no matter how horny you become ( and trust me you will get very horny) that you can still have sex, girls get often dry, guys often cant come. But hey, lying naked playing with each others nipples is way more fun anyways on E.:lol:
Enjoy... Report back

[CommieTroll]

Enjoy... Report back

Thanks for the help, I have a safe place to go afterwards and I'll have plenty of friends not on the drug to help me. I can't wait!:D The party will be on Friday night so expect a wild story from me on Saturday or Sunday.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Do you know if it's like LSD where your mood and enviornment effect your high?

I can't compare it to LSD, as I've never done LSD. I've done psilocybin, though, probably my "favorite drug", and it's not really comparible to that kind of high. Technically it is classified as having psychadelic properties, but in my experience they're not nearly as strong as something like LSD or psilocybin, where your brain experiences meltdown for eight goddamn hours straight.

But to actually answer your question, yeah, I think mood and environment definitely have an impact, but I feel that way about all drugs, really...marijuana certainly, hell if I was 16 years old and drinking booze right next to the police station I'm sure that would affect my ability to enjoy it, lol

[Jimmie Higgins]

I've done other things more, but never had a bad time with my limited experience with E. It's sort of like being drunk and high but incredibly clear headed. I wouldn't say it's like LSD at all - E goes up and down in feeling good and content and euphoric whereas LSD tosses you around the room like a rag-doll and you can feel totally confident and euphoric one second and then switch to afraid and overwhelmed the next. You also don't have hallucinations on E and I generally felt much more in control than on LSD or similar things. LSD is intense and profound whereas E is fun and sometimes insightful.

Have fun and have a sober person you can trust that knows you're on it and can hang out with you throughout the night.

[nowarbutclasswar]

the first time you do it you might not even notice you are high until the next day when you look back on your night, because you really don't know what to expect. if you are going to be drinking, you will be much rowdier than normal, and without the usual sluggishness that comes from alcohol consumption. make sure you drink lots of water and have something to chew on like gum or a straw. ecstasy makes you clench your jaw without even noticing, and you can wake up the next morning with chipped teeth everywhere. the comedown is nasty, and it usually ruins your next day, but its bearable. you might have a hard time going to sleep (or you might not sleep at all) which again contributes to the bad comedown. e is really good for picking up girls (provided you are not too fucked up) because it turns you into a smooth talking machine. you feel like you're gods gift to women and every word you say is the coolest shit ever spoken. plus u can literally fuck for hours on it. also, music sounds amazing, especially house/trance (which btw you have to be high to enjoy, if you like house and you don't do e you're a fucked up person)... overall it is a very fun drug when you are young and acting like an idiot is acceptable :D

[Sasha]

the first time you do it you might not even notice you are high until the next day when you look back on your night, because you really don't know what to expect. if you are going to be drinking, you will be much rowdier than normal, and without the usual sluggishness that comes from alcohol consumption. make sure you drink lots of water and have something to chew on like gum or a straw. ecstasy makes you clench your jaw without even noticing, and you can wake up the next morning with chipped teeth everywhere. the comedown is nasty, and it usually ruins your next day, but its bearable. you might have a hard time going to sleep (or you might not sleep at all) which again contributes to the bad comedown. e is really good for picking up girls (provided you are not too fucked up) because it turns you into a smooth talking machine. you feel like you're gods gift to women and every word you say is the coolest shit ever spoken. plus u can literally fuck for hours on it. also, music sounds amazing, especially house/trance (which btw you have to be high to enjoy, if you like house and you don't do e you're a fucked up person)... overall it is a very fun drug when you are young and acting like an idiot is acceptable :D

Like said, more than usual amounts of water is not nescecary, dehydration on E is very rare its a myth originating in the more common overheating.
And while jaw musscle pain and chewing are indeed common people who chip their teeth are either extremly overdosing or are taking sonething else than mdma.

[The Insurrection]

I looking for some info on the drug Ecstasy, I've never taken it before but I've been offered it a few times. I just want to know a bit about the drug before I take it, learn the pro's and con's and what the general high is like. I'm considering taking them with few friends for a really big party with probably every teenager in my town going. So any tips for a first time user? (dosage, effects ect.) Thanks

Serotonin is the hormone that is released into your brain when you consume MDMA and gives you overwhelming feelings of happiness and euphoria to the point of losing your inhibitions and having a heightened sense of empathy. Serotonin is the main transmitter that is released when you take MDMA, but also Dopmamine (regulates a whole bunch of stuff including mood, sleep, blood pressure etc) and Norepinephrine (regulates heart contractions amongst other things) are released.

A bit of science behind it: Serotonin (a chemical) is a neuron-transmitter and is released by a neuron (nerve cells that send electrical and chemical information to the brain) and regulates a chemical balance in the brain that relates to existential reasoning and mood.

Serotonin is replenished through a process called re-uptake. Re-uptake is basically recycling. The transmitter (serotonin) is released by the neuron into the brain telling the brain to feel happiness and euphoria. The neuron then takes the transmitter back into itself and recycles it so that there is a constant supply (so to speak).

What MDMA does is force the neuron to releases huge amounts of serotonin into the brain and then blocks the neuron from re-uptake. This means that you have lots and lots of transmitters in your brain and because the neuron cannot take the transmitter back in the effects linger for a prolonged period of time giving you your high.

The upside of that is that you experience sensations, emotions and feelings that you would never be able to experience without the neuron being manipulated. It is a very intense sensation and a wonderful bonding experience with friends. As a recreational past time it is fun, relatively safe (depending on pre-existing conditions and moderate use) and unlike any other experience you can have normally.

The downside is: Because re-uptake is prevented for a prolonged period of time, it means that your body cannot produce new transmitters. This means that the brain cannot regulate your mood normally and this can lead to acute feelings of paranoia, confusion, depression and in some cases a sense of despair.

However, these feelings are only temporary as the effects of the MDMA wear off, re-uptake happens and a balance in mood is restored. This may not accur the first few times you use it but it will become more and more acute the more often you use it. Prolonged and consistent use can lead to depression and other mood related conditions.

You can do things about that, such as taking 5-HTP before, during and especially after your MDMA high. 5-HTP (which you can buy in most health food shops that sell vitamins etc) counters the anti-reuptake affects of the MDMA and will force the neuron to recycle the transmitter. The problem with that is that if you take too much you can cancel part of the effects of the MDMA.

Also, as Psycho pointed out, the notion of dehydration is pretty much a myth (although it is possible). One of the side effects of MDMA is that it releases an anti-diuretic hormone into the body that is usally only released when the body is dehydrated. This begins a process of water retention including not being able to actually pass water (this is a common side-effect of MDMA). Because you may become hot (through dancing or being in a room that is not well ventilated and full of other warm people on ecstasy) you may worry that you are not drinking enough water, which can lead to things such as hyponatremia. MDMA can fuck with your thirst (as well as exhaustion) responses, so you fail to conceptualise how much water you need. Basically drink a norml amount of water. That means that if you are dancing you will become more dehydrated (as you would normally) so just be aware that you need to drink some water at some point.

Another side effect is that MDMA causes bruxism (teeth grinding) and jaw-clenching as MDMA also tenses muscles. You can get around this by chewing gum and taking a routine of magnesium (a muscle relaxant) before and during your MDMA high (be careful you don't take too much though because you might end up shitting yourself).

Hope that helps.

[dodger]

Brian Harvey.... E17......Ecstasy.....TURN ON.... TUNE IN....RUN YOURSELF OVER, WITH YOUR OWN CAR. How did he do it? Beats the hell out of me. I just know I laughed so hard when it came up on the evening news, nearly ended up in casualty myself.

http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=brian%20harvey%20e17%20accident&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shadyoldlady.com%2Flocation.p hp%3Floc%3D1179&ei=PHEMT5jWKvGhiAfcytD2BQ&usg=AFQjCNFPnRoWrarH4E1i9SzXdJeyIhiUnQ

Commie Troll, please take this advice from one who knows, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER eat baked jacket potato with Ecstasy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J19W2bJq1lY

[ellipsis]

Definately don't take e at music festivals with girls/guys u might hook up with if u have somebody u are committed to off site.

[The Insurrection]

Definately don't take e at music festivals with girls/guys u might hook up with if u have somebody u are committed to off site.

That's called "infidelity" not "ecstasy". Don't blame MDMA for cheating on your partner. MDMA doesn't make you lose perspective on your commitments to the person you're in love with...

[ellipsis]

Tru nuf. That was my only experience with it so it's all I could add. Also 5 years ago.

[28350]

Definately don't take e at music festivals with girls/guys u might hook up with if u have somebody u are committed to off site.

In my experience, when one rolls in that situation, one has already decided to hook up.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Assuming you've got enough lead in your pencil.

[Aspiring Humanist]

Only tried it a few times, but make sure you stay hydrated
For whatever reason E really dehydrates you, maybe its placebo, maybe because you're tripping balls, but make sure you have a water bottle handy

[Sasha]

Only tried it a few times, but make sure you stay hydrated
For whatever reason E really dehydrates you, maybe its placebo, maybe because you're tripping balls, but make sure you have a water bottle handy

No it does not, no you shouldn't, read mine and "the insurrection"s posts

[Decolonize The Left]

Eorwid's entry on ecstasy (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml).

It's basically artificial happiness, which can be cool in the right place. Always remember the rule of set/setting and be sure you are prepared. Psycho's comment on proper clothing is important. You should also have some gatorade (half gatorade, half water) on hand to re-hydrate yourself and keep your electrolight count up. Psycho's also right that it doesn't seriously dehydrate you, but all drugs do to some degree so it's just a good idea. Plus you could get seriously lost trying to find some water in a lot of situations.

Cheers. Hope it was/is fun.

- August

[Brosip Tito]

It drains your spinal fluid, if you're either bit attached to it :P.

But yeah, be careful, you can get a bad pill and get pretty fucked up/sick.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

X is amazing, I did it a lot because I got it for cheap, then my connection went to jail and all I could find was meth disguised as X, which I found out the hard way. So just be careful who you get it from ... maybe buy one of those test kits I always hear about. I shopped around but kept getting ice pills, not good X, so I stopped doing it.

[pastradamus]

I've done it a few times.


In my opinion you should not do exactly what people DO when taking the drug. Usually people take it when clubbing and in my opinion thats just a disaster.
I liked to take it at house parties. Make sure you consume lots and lots of water. Make sure you're not working tomorrow and have no plans. The only cure for an ecstacy hang-over is to sleep it off. I remember once we finished up a house party at 6am and I had work at 1.30pm that day.I went into work and had to go home at 4pm as the sweat was literally flowing down my face. Im not sure I agree with the whole "smoke weed to come down" line. I have only ever smoked weed once when i was on it and to be honest I didn't feel any effect as the effect of weed was completely drowned out by how effective the ecstacy was. Another piece of advice I always got was "dont consume alcohol". I've drank every time I've ever taken it and I've always done ok as I've been drinking water with it.

Depending on how many you take, one affect I always got is that I'd just fall in love with any woman in the room regardless of looks :rolleyes:. But generally its a very good, peaceful and warm feeling. Just dont forget the water!

[blake 3:17]

Erowid is a wonderful resource.

You might also want to look at http://www.pillreports.com/ It covers different part of the world by region.

A couple of clubbing friends have told me the local stuff is very very uneven.

Edited to add:
Make sure you consume lots and lots of water. The thing is to stay hydrated. There've been a couple of deaths, and more illness, from people consuming TOO MUCH water. It's pretty rare, but has happened.

[The Stalinator]

People in some parts of my country have been dyingunusually oftenin the past few months from tainted ecstasy. I don't do it myself, but I would suggest you look up some information on that in your local area. The last thing you'd want is to ingest something toxic.

[blake 3:17]

There've been in a number of deaths in Alberta Canada related to tainted ecstasy: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/02/02/calgary-drug-safety-ecstasy.html?cmp=rss

Actual MDMA in correct doses is quite benign. There are some much cheaper to produce or simply buy that have some X like effects and scuzzy dealers will substitute for. Some are quite nasty.

[GoddessCleoLover]

Used to do acid back in the 70s. Has Ecstasy more or less supplanted LSD among today's young people? Now that I am older and hopefully wiser I feel obliged to post that most drugs carry fairly serious risks which out to be carefully weighed against the benefits by the would-be consumer.

[28350]

You might also want to look at http://www.pillreports.com/ It covers different part of the world by region.

Or http://www.ecstasydata.org/

[Aloysius]

This thread makes me want to do drugs.

[Conscript]

Used to do acid back in the 70s. Has Ecstasy more or less supplanted LSD among today's young people? Now that I am older and hopefully wiser I feel obliged to post that most drugs carry fairly serious risks which out to be carefully weighed against the benefits by the would-be consumer.

No. The two aren't really anything alike. On ecstasy you're clear headed...but very happy, giddy, euphoric, etc. LSD is a trip, E is just a high.

[Aloysius]

Honestly, I always said that the only drugs I would do were marijuana and LSD. I've added E to that list.