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X5N
8th January 2012, 23:27
Reporting from Dublin, N.H. -- In town hall meetings across the southern portion of New Hampshire on Friday, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum continued to tangle with voters over the social issues that shaped his image on the national political stage long before he vaulted into prominence this week as a rival to GOP presidential front-runner Mitt Romney.

At Dublin School, a private ninth- to 12th-grade boarding school whose headmaster said the audience included three children of gay parents, Santorums voice dropped and became emotional as he argued that only a man and woman should have the privilege and honor of marrying.

Marriage is not a right, Santorum said. Its a privilege that is given to society by society for a reason.We want to encourage what is the best for children.

So important is it to have both a father and a mother, Santorum suggested, that even a father who is in jail and has abandoned his family is better for a child than two gay parents.

He recalled that after he helped usher welfare reform through Congress in 1996, he was on a panel discussion with author Jason DeParle, who wrote a book about welfare reform.

One of the things he talked aboutwas the lack of fathers, and he found that even fathers in jail who had abandoned their kids were still better than no father at all to have in their childrens lives. Allowing gays to marry and raise children, he said, amounts to robbing children of something they need, they deserve, they have a right to. You may rationalize that that isnt true, but in your own life and in your own heart, you know its true.

The audience, half students and half local residents, reacted with snorts and applause.

Earlier, at a town hall meeting in the basement of the public library in Keene, Santorum was gently confronted about health insurance by an emergency room nurse who had just worked an overnight shift and apologized for being tired.

She said her son, who recently graduated from college, had been diagnosed with cancer at age 5. Why, she wanted to know, should her son pay more for health insurance as an adult when he had done nothing wrong and had not caused his own health woes.

You believe that someone with a healthcare issue should pay the same amount as a healthy person? he asked.

The nurse replied that she did.

Thats not how it works, said Santorum, comparing health insurance to auto insurance. People with higher risk should pay more. Why should we charge more to people who have done everything right?

Source (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-santorum-tangles-with-voters-over-gay-marriage-health-insurance-20120106,0,5024123.story)

I have two words for Rick. "Fuck" and "you."

Nox
8th January 2012, 23:48
And I thought Ron Paul was bad...

Drosophila
9th January 2012, 00:15
I can't wait for a gay sex scandal to come out on this guy.

Red Noob
9th January 2012, 00:38
Do people actually take this man to heart? As in like, believe and support the shit he says? I really hope not.

agnixie
9th January 2012, 02:54
Primary voters seem to like him enough to flock from the Perry, Bachmann and Cain crowds to him. I'm half hoping it happens that way because going from a "mere" imperial capitalist to a downright fascism could be a blessing.

Spets
9th January 2012, 02:57
I don't understand how some people can be taken seriously.

The Dark Side of the Moon
9th January 2012, 03:52
Fuck politicians

Ocean Seal
10th January 2012, 01:59
Did he just say that marriage is not a right? For a conservative that seems a little odd. I mean that could mean that we could have the grand council on "what is good for our children" and ban him and other reactionaries from raising children.

ColonelCossack
10th January 2012, 02:06
These people give me brain cramps.

Tovarisch
10th January 2012, 03:56
Kids with Rick Santorum as a parent are better off with a parent in an insane asylum

Agathor
10th January 2012, 05:05
Better off with no parents, gay or hetero, than a creepy fuck who introduces his children to a stillborn fetus.

Seth
10th January 2012, 05:39
When I hear him I can't help but think of a brown froth.

Firebrand
10th January 2012, 23:05
God i'm glad i'm not american. If he can get taken seriously then all sensible and decent human beings should bury their heads in despair. Even the BNP doesn't come out with that sort of stuff openly and they're Nazis.

PhoenixAsh
10th January 2012, 23:08
Primary voters seem to like him enough to flock from the Perry, Bachmann and Cain crowds to him. I'm half hoping it happens that way because going from a "mere" imperial capitalist to a downright fascism could be a blessing.

wait....what???

care to elaborate??

agnixie
10th January 2012, 23:39
wait....what???

care to elaborate??

On the other hand it might just be an inner desire to see it all fall apart and a fascist would probably the best bet for it. More seriously, it might just be me harboring ridiculous and misplaced hopes that something, anything, might cure the US of the nonsensical idea that voting in a bourgeois republic makes things better.

workersadvocate
11th January 2012, 00:01
God i'm glad i'm not american. If he can get taken seriously then all sensible and decent human beings should bury their heads in despair. Even the BNP doesn't come out with that sort of stuff openly and they're Nazis.

I agree and I'm from the USA. We have some back-to-Dark-Ages would-be-witchburner people running around in this country. Every noticed how they can be the nosiest fuckers around, I mean, you'd rather have the KGB watching your bedrooms instead!

Patchd
11th January 2012, 04:14
Having a gay parent is better than having one who is a frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is the by-product of anal sex (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=santorum) as a dad.

Obs
11th January 2012, 10:33
So, this guy:
1) vehemently hates gays
2) wants to bomb Iran
3) tells a mother straight to her face that her cancer-struck son deserves to die if he can't pay the price of health insurance - which, by the way, should be higher since he already had cancer.
4) shows his own kids (one of them mentally handicapped by a genetic disorder) a miscarried foetus, then makes them help bury it in the yard like a deceased pet.
5) literally, with his own words, directly opposes the right to privacy in one's own home.

Yeah, looks like the GOP's betting on getting a straight-up sociopath in office. Joy.

brigadista
11th January 2012, 10:48
what a tosser- have total contempt here - but serious if he climbs the greasy pole

00000000000
11th January 2012, 11:00
Republicans are very fond of foisting their own special brand of narcissistic sociopath on the rest of the world.
Democrats do too of course, but at least there are fewer pro-life gay-bashers in that camp.

Tim Finnegan
11th January 2012, 13:37
Why do we care what some reactionary fuckwad says about anything? Don't we have anything better to do than revel in our righteous anger?


On the other hand it might just be an inner desire to see it all fall apart and a fascist would probably the best bet for it. More seriously, it might just be me harboring ridiculous and misplaced hopes that something, anything, might cure the US of the nonsensical idea that voting in a bourgeois republic makes things better.
The history of post-fascist Europe doesn't really suggest that as an effective cure, though. If anything, it permits a revitalised bourgeois republicanism at a later date, with the bonus of the fascists having had all the working class militants butchered before you start.

piet11111
11th January 2012, 14:27
I seriously think the GOP are trying to get Obama reelected then when he has done everything in his power ramming through austerity measures then the GOP will finish whats left after they take over.

The GOP do not want the poisoned chalice passed to them just yet so they will let Obama have another sip until the democrats have completely spent the illusion of being progressive or not being as bad as the republicans.

Red Commissar
11th January 2012, 18:44
I was reading a little pointless article (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/11/rick-santorum-s-italian-family-speaks-out.html) about the Santorum family in Italy, which apparently had a long career in 'left' politics in Italy, being members of the Italian CP for much of their career. Santorum's grandfather fled Italy in the 1920s because of his anti-fascism and opposition to Mussolini - which Santorum apparently thinks is the same as his own 'struggle' against the Obama dictatorship.

I don't know, I just found all that amusing.