climate change models flawed extinction rate likely higher than predicted

[bcbm]

more good news (http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0106/Climate-change-models-flawed-extinction-rate-likely-higher-than-predicted)

[MarxSchmarx]

This "current models ignore interspecific interactions" argument has always seemed a little problematic to me.

The climate models are based on empirical relations and when they are analyzed over a specie's range, they do remarkably well for such models. In many respects, "interspecific interactions" except where it concerns something drastic like humans, represent mere statistical noise. What is true is that interspecific competitive interactions resolve themselves remarkably rapidly, but what are generally static are a specie's response to abiotic factors. There are of course exceptions scattered here and there, but on the whole I think adding "species interactions" will not improve the resolution of such prediction much.

Having said that, I think a lot of the "ecological niche modeling" that goes on is incredibly shallow and a crass excuse for science.

[MotherCossack]

me - no - like - !!!
is anyone else as scared as I am about this? Like those nightmares when you know there is something vitally important that you should have done, or do right away!! But you totally can't remember what.
or the dream, usually recurring , where you have forgotten to do an assignment that makes up a huge percentage of the final
. i still get that, almost 20 years later...
maybe i am not looking in the right places..but it seems to me that we have displayed, to date, a remarkably cavalier attitude to the maintenance of planet earth.
as far as i aware, no evacuation strategy exists or can be drawn up until the human race has figured out how to travel through space and has some notion of where to go!
so for the time being , all we can do is hope that the pharmacuticals come up with a f--k off strong sun-cream.
i tell you what... if you pray to god, i'll build an ark... and somebody else better start the underground bunker

[Le Rouge]

Yay, we can continue polluting the earth now.