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Red Future
6th January 2012, 17:37
Seriously , I can't think of any Marxist-Leninist-Maoists left on the forum. Has the Soviet Union won the sino-soviet split or something on Revleft?
danyboy27
6th January 2012, 17:41
Seriously , I can't think of any Marxist-Leninist-Maoists left on the forum. Has the Soviet Union won the sino-soviet split or something on Revleft?
Darwin law of natural selection.
Ostrinski
6th January 2012, 17:42
They all got educated.
ellipsis
6th January 2012, 17:59
mosfield?
danyboy27
6th January 2012, 18:16
I remember a disturbing amount of them asked to be banned or where banned, last spring.
Spawn of stalin was banned, then another one, then another one, then red cat asked to be banned, etc etc.
Sam_b
6th January 2012, 18:29
This should be moved to Chit-Chat.
Robespierre Richard
6th January 2012, 18:39
Seriously , I can't think of any Marxist-Leninist-Maoists left on the forum. Has the Soviet Union won the sino-soviet split or something on Revleft?
Over here? (http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?do=viewmembers&groupid=10)
Though there seems to be a lot of people who have either not posted in ages, aren't Maoist, or are banned there.
Also you and I have the same amount of reputation at this exact point in time.
Ele'ill
6th January 2012, 18:46
Moving to Chit Chat unless redson beats me to it
Sasha
6th January 2012, 19:10
Into the mountains...
GallowsBird
7th January 2012, 21:33
Seriously , I can't think of any Marxist-Leninist-Maoists left on the forum. Has the Soviet Union won the sino-soviet split or something on Revleft?
Where have all the Maoists gone?
Long time passing,
Where have all the Maoists gone?
Long time ago,
Where have all the Maoists gone...
:p
Roach
8th January 2012, 20:19
The main maoist posters were banned, the ones who survived now have their activity mainly restricted to their group. I wish they would get out more often though.
Zealot
8th January 2012, 20:29
Banned/inactive. Some also moved away to concentrate on other things such as the Nepalese Revolution but there are a few still around.
The Dark Side of the Moon
8th January 2012, 21:16
they all got purged.
unsuprising
Arlekino
8th January 2012, 21:33
Maoist where they gone? We don't know where, they must be banished or something like that. But anyway Maoist, Leninist, Marxist, Troskyst and so on are we still divided?
NoOneIsIllegal
8th January 2012, 22:33
Trolls gonna troll.
The two biggest Maoists for a while were Redcat, who voluntarily banned his own account due to his infamous rape statement, and The Vegan Marxist, who dropped the "-Maoist" at the end of his tendency. He's still a M-L in a Maoist "organization"... if you want to stroke their ego by even calling them that.
You guys walking around with neckbeards and Mao caps, fetishizing shit like peasantry. You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name. Honestly you guys have an obsession with some stupid shit Confucius-like quotes his fatass says. You still think you're relevant? No. You guys are just either some bandanna clad insurrectionist waving cheap Kalashnikovs and spraying buses and cops or some irrelevant political party in an economic cesspool. Yeah good shit happened as well as bad under Mao, but some really fucked up shit happened that you undermine like the Stalinoids you are. Most of you shits would be the first ones publicly paddled in the fanny and shot by the Red Guard along with random old people, because Mao was a fucking idiot.
NoOneIsIllegal
10th January 2012, 02:13
you guys walking around with neckbeards and mao caps, fetishizing shit like peasantry. You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name. Honestly you guys have an obsession with some stupid shit confucius-like quotes his fatass says. You still think you're relevant? No. You guys are just either some bandanna clad insurrectionist waving cheap kalashnikovs and spraying buses and cops or some irrelevant political party in an economic cesspool. Yeah good shit happened as well as bad under mao, but some really fucked up shit happened that you undermine like the stalinoids you are. Most of you shits would be the first ones publicly paddled in the fanny and shot by the red guard along with random old people, because mao was a fucking idiot.
1) move to non-political chit-chat
2) "thank" the fuck out of this.
Pirate Utopian
10th January 2012, 02:22
The Vegan Marxist, who dropped the "-Maoist" at the end of his tendency. He's still a M-L in a Maoist "organization"... if you want to stroke their ego by even calling them that.
How about a sympathy stroke for having to put up with him?
X5N
10th January 2012, 04:29
There are no Maoists on RevLeft. There were never Maoists on RevLeft.
Os Cangaceiros
10th January 2012, 21:44
where is my Zhou Enlai/where is my Mao Zeeeee-dooooooooong/where is their shame for shilling Prachanda/where have all the Maaaaaoooo-ooooowwww-ists gooooooone.....
Chambered Word
12th January 2012, 05:52
You guys walking around with neckbeards and Mao caps, fetishizing shit like peasantry. You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name. Honestly you guys have an obsession with some stupid shit Confucius-like quotes his fatass says. You still think you're relevant? No. You guys are just either some bandanna clad insurrectionist waving cheap Kalashnikovs and spraying buses and cops or some irrelevant political party in an economic cesspool. Yeah good shit happened as well as bad under Mao, but some really fucked up shit happened that you undermine like the Stalinoids you are. Most of you shits would be the first ones publicly paddled in the fanny and shot by the Red Guard along with random old people, because Mao was a fucking idiot.
have my babies.
kurr
13th January 2012, 04:51
You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name.
Face. Fucking. Palm.
Hiero
13th January 2012, 05:36
I used to have alot of Maoist symbolism and lingo in my avator and signature. I removed them because most people can only operate (blindly) on labels. Changing my symbolism to something more obsure and Lacanian means I can engage in conversation without the stale members trolling "Ofcourse a Maoist would think like that!"
You guys walking around with neckbeards and Mao caps, fetishizing shit like peasantry. You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name. Honestly you guys have an obsession with some stupid shit Confucius-like quotes his fatass says. You still think you're relevant? No. You guys are just either some bandanna clad insurrectionist waving cheap Kalashnikovs and spraying buses and cops or some irrelevant political party in an economic cesspool. Yeah good shit happened as well as bad under Mao, but some really fucked up shit happened that you undermine like the Stalinoids you are. Most of you shits would be the first ones publicly paddled in the fanny and shot by the Red Guard along with random old people, because Mao was a fucking idiot.
And why are you so relevant? You sound like a left-wing redneck, a real "they took our jobs" type logic while being completly unaware of insignficance of Libertarian Socialism.
∞
13th January 2012, 05:39
I used to have alot of Maoist symbolism and lingo in my avator and signature. I removed them because most people can only operate (blindly) on labels. Changing my symbolism to something more obsure and Lacanian means I can engage in conversation without the stale members trolling "Ofcourse a Maoist would think like that!"
And why are you so relevant? You sound like a left-wing redneck, a real "they took our jobs" type logic while being completly unaware of insignficance of Libertarian Socialism.
Thats because I am a left-wing redneck, silly yuppy.
Hiero
13th January 2012, 05:41
Thats because I am a left-wing redneck, silly yuppy.
So now you want to try and hide your ignorance behind class victimisation? You're an idiot.
ComradeGrant
13th January 2012, 06:05
Lol people taking chit chat seriously.
Prometeo liberado
13th January 2012, 07:16
[QUOTE=Hiero;2336931]hanging my symbolism to something more obsure and Lacanian means I can engage inI used to have alot of Maoist symbolism and lingo in my avator and signature. I removed them because most people can only operate (blindly) on labels. C conversation without the stale members trolling "Ofcourse a Maoist would think like that!"
And why are you so relevant? You sound like a left-wing redneck, a real "they took our jobs" type logic while being completly unaware of insignficance of Libertarian Socialism.[/QUO
Basically the same reason why I changed my avatar. I wanted to show the true nature of Al Czervik combating the Capitalist Judge Smails over the peoples ownership of a golf course. See tendency unity!:p
∞
13th January 2012, 07:23
So now you want to try and hide your ignorance behind class victimisation? You're an idiot.
Yes but I able to admit my mental disability. You're just a big poo-poo head who takes chit-chat seriously.
A dog is a cat, like a rat is a bat/
I am a fool/
but at least I know that/
Ostrinski
14th January 2012, 04:31
You guys walking around with neckbeards and Mao caps, fetishizing shit like peasantry. You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name. Honestly you guys have an obsession with some stupid shit Confucius-like quotes his fatass says. You still think you're relevant? No. You guys are just either some bandanna clad insurrectionist waving cheap Kalashnikovs and spraying buses and cops or some irrelevant political party in an economic cesspool. Yeah good shit happened as well as bad under Mao, but some really fucked up shit happened that you undermine like the Stalinoids you are. Most of you shits would be the first ones publicly paddled in the fanny and shot by the Red Guard along with random old people, because Mao was a fucking idiot.http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/324-son-i-am-proud.jpg
StalinFanboy
19th January 2012, 21:47
they became left coms and were immediately banned.
CAUSE THATS WHAT REVLEFT DOES AMIRITE LOLOL JK JK JK
StalinFanboy
19th January 2012, 21:49
You guys walking around with neckbeards and Mao caps, fetishizing shit like peasantry. You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name. Honestly you guys have an obsession with some stupid shit Confucius-like quotes his fatass says. You still think you're relevant? No. You guys are just either some bandanna clad insurrectionist waving cheap Kalashnikovs and spraying buses and cops or some irrelevant political party in an economic cesspool. Yeah good shit happened as well as bad under Mao, but some really fucked up shit happened that you undermine like the Stalinoids you are. Most of you shits would be the first ones publicly paddled in the fanny and shot by the Red Guard along with random old people, because Mao was a fucking idiot.
This was the best rant ever.
PC LOAD LETTER
22nd January 2012, 08:32
You guys walking around with neckbeards and Mao caps, fetishizing shit like peasantry. You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name. Honestly you guys have an obsession with some stupid shit Confucius-like quotes his fatass says. You still think you're relevant? No. You guys are just either some bandanna clad insurrectionist waving cheap Kalashnikovs and spraying buses and cops or some irrelevant political party in an economic cesspool. Yeah good shit happened as well as bad under Mao, but some really fucked up shit happened that you undermine like the Stalinoids you are. Most of you shits would be the first ones publicly paddled in the fanny and shot by the Red Guard along with random old people, because Mao was a fucking idiot.
That was amazing. Aside from the bit ignoring Chinese naming customs, but whatever. I can forgive that part.
I used to have alot of Maoist symbolism and lingo in my avator and signature. I removed them because most people can only operate (blindly) on labels. Changing my symbolism to something more obsure and Lacanian means I can engage in conversation without the stale members trolling "Ofcourse a Maoist would think like that!"
And why are you so relevant? You sound like a left-wing redneck, a real "they took our jobs" type logic while being completly unaware of insignficance of Libertarian Socialism.
I'm going to use this somehow. I smell a user title.
Thirsty Crow
22nd January 2012, 12:53
A dog is a cat, like a rat is a bat/
I am a fool/
but at least I know that/
Wow :blink::laugh:
Is this from a song or something? If not, I sure hope you didn't copyright it.
ColonelCossack
31st January 2012, 21:15
lol mao was his family name.
That's how they do it in China.
Lyev
1st February 2012, 23:36
IChanging my symbolism to something more pseudo-intellectual and pretentious ... fixed it
Polyphonic Foxes
2nd February 2012, 01:21
I recall that The Vegan Marxist used to be really active then seemed to dissappear or something, I can only assume that the police found him at last.
But seriously, good riddence, since you can basically tell if someone is gonna give you a lot of needless shit based on how close they are maoism.
∞
2nd February 2012, 01:38
fixed it
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!
http://news.turner.com/images/10001/RS_GRP4C01_CA_CAP(2).jpg
Pirate Utopian
2nd February 2012, 01:45
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PC LOAD LETTER
2nd February 2012, 06:40
fs7qJCjFu8s
This is amazing
Red Commissar
4th February 2012, 19:44
I recall that The Vegan Marxist used to be really active then seemed to dissappear or something, I can only assume that the police found him at last.
Ah, almost forgot about that guy. Not sure if he was as Maoist as he was earlier, he seemed to have slid into "Marxist-Leninism" with a particular focus on 'anti-imperialism' and technocracy (ie all the threads made in science forum). He's still posting at that blog of his though, looking at the links he had in his profile. Just not around here anymore.
The other more 'visible' Maoists such as Mosfeld or Zenga Zenga seem to have become inactive too.
TBH I never saw them posting all that much outside of particular fixations. Mosfeld along with some others who have since left the site or been banned were active in Nepal threads, while Zenga Zenga was mostly in Libya threads. As far as I'm concerned they probably just got fed up that this forum was more or less hostile to their positions. Couldn't mesh here.
GoddessCleoLover
4th February 2012, 19:57
I remember back in the 70s there existed several MLM organizations that were more numerous that their Trotskyist counterparts. In addition there was THE Guardian newspaper which was at least quasi-MLM. Three of the MLM groups proclaimed themselves to be vanguard parties despite their lack of hegemony over even the MLM left let alone the broader far left. Within a few years Deng Xiaoping had led the PRC in a more capitalistically oriented direction, which caused profound fissures within the MLM "parties". Thirty years later the sole remaining organizational remnant of the 70s "new communist movement" is Bob Avakian's personality cult. IMO MLM/"new communist movement" is a closed chapter in the history of the left, ruined by a combination of its practical organizational sectarianism and it dogmatic hero-worship of bloody dictators such as Mao, Stalin, Enver Hoxha, and Kim Il Sung.
Ismail
4th February 2012, 22:23
Actually Kim Il Sung tended to be disliked since he preferred to vacillate between the USSR and China rather than actually adopt an anti-revisionist position.
Also when Hoxha denounced China most Maoists strongly attacked him. The Avakianites called him a "dogmato-revisionist," Shining Path called him a "chauvinist" and capitalist, etc.
The Maoist movement petered out because in the end a lot of its adherents were middle-class youth who thought Stalin made "mistakes" whereas Mao was this bright, energetic "non-dogmatic" type of guy who supposedly noted these "mistakes" and somehow advanced Marxism-Leninism onto a qualitatively new stage which, of course, became Mao Zedong Thought. As said youth grew up they became increasingly liberal in their outlook and abandoned Marxism. It was similar to British and French Trotskyism of the 1930's-80's, where a lot were youths grew up and became reactionaries.
Fawkes
4th February 2012, 22:39
You guys walking around with neckbeards and Mao caps, fetishizing shit like peasantry. You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name. Honestly you guys have an obsession with some stupid shit Confucius-like quotes his fatass says. You still think you're relevant? No. You guys are just either some bandanna clad insurrectionist waving cheap Kalashnikovs and spraying buses and cops or some irrelevant political party in an economic cesspool. Yeah good shit happened as well as bad under Mao, but some really fucked up shit happened that you undermine like the Stalinoids you are. Most of you shits would be the first ones publicly paddled in the fanny and shot by the Red Guard along with random old people, because Mao was a fucking idiot.
gimme some
http://bubbasmith.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/7177.jpg
Ismail
4th February 2012, 22:44
On Mao's Confucian outlook and influences, Hoxha also took notice:
There was also the fact that the CCP from its very start had racialist and "Oriental" outlooks which were amplified under Mao to produce a sort of "Asian Communism." As Hoxha notes: "In these conditions, with those concepts the CCP could never be a Marxist-Leninist party. The philosophy which guided it was idealist bourgeois, retrograde, because China itself, its society despite its democratic bourgeois revolution, has remained a closed society, with old beliefs and mentality dominated by mysticism and by philosophical and organisational state principles archaic in essence but which have allegedly evolved superficially. We can see this in the construction and form of the state, in the development of the economy, in the way the education and cultural system has been built, in the organisation of the army, etc. Everything bore the specific Chinese seal, from ideological literature down to the slogans." (1978 letter to Hysni Kapo in Letra të zgjedhura Vol. I, p. 396.) In this same letter Hoxha noted, "The ideological, political and organisational principles of the CCP and Mao Zedong are principles of a pronounced pragmatic philosophy with clear aims of transforming the 'eternal' China into a superpower to dominate the world." He further referred to Mao as, "an idealist dreamer and visionary, without general culture (except that of Chinese antiquity) [who has] followed the course of the history of mankind as [a] most xenophobic dilettante."
Yet Hoxha concluded his letter in hopeful spirits: "Terrible storms have and will pass over the Chinese people, but the day will come when, even there the theory of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin will triumph. The present and coming generations of China will understand and will say: 'The Party of Labour of Albania opened our eyes, it acted correctly, it exposed Mao Zedong thought because it loved the Chinese proletarian revolution, because it wanted to dispel the destructive myths created in China, which hindered the happiness of this great people, who want to live in genuine socialism.'"
GoddessCleoLover
4th February 2012, 22:56
No surprise that Avakian would prefer a dead Mao to a then-living Hoxha, as the deceased can be venerated without a presenting a leadership threat. Avakian never really had that many followers, and he lost about forty percent of his "party" in the late 70s to the "Revolutionary Workers' Headquarters". Chairman Bob and his followers are apparently about the last remnant that exists of the American MLM tendency and that is a sorrowful epitaph for that movement.
PC LOAD LETTER
4th February 2012, 22:57
Ismail, is everything about Hoxha to you?
Ismail
4th February 2012, 22:59
Ismail, is everything about Hoxha to you?He wrote 71 volumes of Vepra (collected works) and 20+ volumes of published diaries, plus various memoirs and a large number of unpublished works. There's a lot of material. Stalin and especially Mao, by comparison, were pretty sparse. :p
NoOneIsIllegal
4th February 2012, 23:03
Also when Hoxha denounced China
Hoxha also took notice:
Hoxha, by contrast,
Why is it a problem if I talk about Hoxha?
Enver Hoxha noted in his work Imperialism and the Revolution (http://enver-hoxha.net/content/content_english/books/books-imperialism_and_revolution.htm)
I walking while reading pages 83-104 of The History of the Socialist Construction of Albania
Hoxha noted in his diaries
Speaking of Hoxha
So how do you determine who is "worse" between Stalin and Hoxha?
We get it.
I sadly grabbed most of these just from your last 10-15 posts. Every single quote is a different post.
Seek help. Immediately.
Bronco
4th February 2012, 23:03
There's a Hoxha quote for every situation
PC LOAD LETTER
4th February 2012, 23:06
There's a Hoxha quote for every situation
Someone should make a coffee table book
Omsk
4th February 2012, 23:07
I could add up that Stalin was for the better time of the GPW preoccupied with writing : "Orders Of The Day" .To understand me better,open the spolier to see what he wrote for the better part of 1944. (for an example)
Order of the Day, (January 12, 1944)
Order of the Day, (January 14, 1944)
Order of the Day, (January 19, 1944)
Order of the Day, (January 20, 1944)
Order of the Day, (January 21, 1944)
Order of the Day, (January 24, 1944)
Order of the Day, (January 26, 1944)
Order of the Day, (January 28, 1944)
Order of the Day, (January 29, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 1, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 3, 1944)
Order of the Day (February 5, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 6, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 8, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 8, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 11, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 13, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 18, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 22, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 23, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 24, 1944)
Order of the Day, (February 24, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 5, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 9, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 9, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 10, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 10, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 16, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 17, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 18, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 18, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 19, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 20, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 20, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 22, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 24, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 25, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 26, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 27, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 28, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 29, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 30, 1944)
Order of the Day, (March 31, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 5, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 8, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 8, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 10, 1944)
Stalin and BenesExchange Messages, (April 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 11, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 11, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 13, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 13, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 13, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 15, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 16, 1944)
Order of the Day, (April 17, 1944)
Order of the Day, No. 70, (May 1, 1944)
Order of the Day, (May 10, 1944)
Order of the Day, (May 11, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 11, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 21, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 24, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 24, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 24, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 25, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 25, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 26, 1944)
Order of the Day, (June 26, 1944)
.... It goes like that untill December
GoddessCleoLover
4th February 2012, 23:07
I don't mean to be unkind, but after more than forty years of Hoxha's rule Albania was still a desperately poor country and policies such as wasting labor and resources on those bunkers did not aid Albania's development. Then there is the fact that following Hoxha's death his legacy dissipated rather quickly for a man who ruled for so long and there seems to be nothing left but all of those volumes of his writings. This might lead one to conclude that Enver Hoxha was rooted excessively in his theories, without due regard to developing a revolutionary praxis that might have survived his death.
Ismail
4th February 2012, 23:07
Someone should make a coffee table bookHere's an English-language coffee-table book from 1986: http://www.enverhoxha.ru/Archive_of_books/Enver_Hoxha_His_Life_and_Work.pdf
Comrade Enver had a special ability to sum up and draw very important conclusions from even a simple action of the revolutionary practice of the masses. By observing and studying the development of the present-day revolutionary movement, the international situation and the dialectical process of the progress of the Albanian society, he dealt with a series of capital questions of the world revolution and the socialist construction of Albania with complete scientific competence. His Marxist opinion carries solid weight in matters of philosophy and politics, ideology and the economy, culture and art, in military and international issues....
The present and future generations will be guided by his teachings. Faced with any major question, faced with any difficulty or obstacle, they will seek the advice of Enver. And Enver will assist them. He will give them answers through his work.:D
I don't mean to be unkind, but after more than forty years of Hoxha's rule Albania was still a desperately poor country and policies such as wasting labor and resources on those bunkers did not aid Albania's development.The bunkers weren't that expensive. And in any case the issue was a lack of trade without the outside world, which became an issue years after the whole bunker construction stuff. Albania waited for proletarian revolutions and they didn't come.
PC LOAD LETTER
4th February 2012, 23:26
Here's an English-language coffee-table book from 1986: http://www.enverhoxha.ru/Archive_of_books/Enver_Hoxha_His_Life_and_Work.pdf
:D
The bunkers weren't that expensive. And in any case the issue was a lack of trade without the outside world, which became an issue years after the whole bunker construction stuff. Albania waited for proletarian revolutions and they didn't come.
:eek:
Do you have a copy?
Bronco
4th February 2012, 23:32
That thing crashed my browser, damn you Hoxha!
Ismail
4th February 2012, 23:33
That thing crashed my browser, damn you Hoxha!You'll need to spend like 10 minutes downloading it. Anything Hoxha is too manly for one single browser to hold.
Do you have a copy?Nay. That website has a bunch of Albanian-language coffee-table books though.
Homo Songun
5th February 2012, 00:03
You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name.
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2012/1/3/103757b2-9466-4a37-b0e3-c62a8092bccc.jpg
PC LOAD LETTER
5th February 2012, 00:30
You'll need to spend like 10 minutes downloading it. Anything Hoxha is too manly for one single browser to hold.
Nay. That website has a bunch of Albanian-language coffee-table books though.
Oh, okay. Perhaps you can help me with something: I'm looking for Enver Hoxha's 1979 speech on the ethics of who should receive the last slice of pizza when all involved have contributed equally in the procurement of said pizza, yet the pizza to people ratio is not optimal to ensure equal distribution.
Ismail
5th February 2012, 08:56
Oh, okay. Perhaps you can help me with something: I'm looking for Enver Hoxha's 1979 speech on the ethics of who should receive the last slice of pizza when all involved have contributed equally in the procurement of said pizza, yet the pizza to people ratio is not optimal to ensure equal distribution.Unfortunately Hoxha's collected works stop at mid-1979, since Volume 71 was published in 1990 and they stopped making more volumes after that. :D
Thirsty Crow
5th February 2012, 21:50
Oh, okay. Perhaps you can help me with something: I'm looking for Enver Hoxha's 1979 speech on the ethics of who should receive the last slice of pizza when all involved have contributed equally in the procurement of said pizza, yet the pizza to people ratio is not optimal to ensure equal distribution.
Easy, the authorities calculate which person has spent most labour time constructing bunkers. Those people get the biggest share.
gorillafuck
5th February 2012, 23:30
You know a fucker is dumb when your tendency is a guys first name.Mao is the family name, so it's basically like a last name.
GoddessCleoLover
6th February 2012, 00:15
That was a jaw-dropper for me, too. The fact that the bourgeois press referred to him as Mao ought have tipped him off. Assuming of course that it wasn't just a troll post.
Ismail
6th February 2012, 01:51
Hoxha's early critique of the "Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution" in 1966: http://marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/1966/10/01.htm
(I uploaded it and had a topic on RevLeft back it back when I did)
The two volumes of Hoxha's Reflections on China, a collection of diary entries from 1962-1977:
http://www.enverhoxha.ru/Archive_of_books/English/enver_hoxha_reflections_on_china_volume_I_eng.pdf
http://www.enverhoxha.ru/Archive_of_books/English/enver_hoxha_reflections_on_china_volume_II_eng.pdf
Meanwhile, with the line it is following and the stands it adopts, China says «stop» to the revolution. It professes a new revisionism, which is a variant of modern revisionism, a markedly opportunist form of distortion of our Marxist-Leninist ideology. Its objective, in essence, in theory and in practice, is to hinder and stop the revolution, to preserve the status quo of the so-called free and independent states, which, in fact, are dominated by the local big capitalist cliques which are in alliance with American imperialism, and to arouse these states to fight against Soviet social-imperialism. «The fight» of this «third world», in which China has included itself, is carried out in alliance with American imperialism.
Thus China, with the aid of American imperialism, relying on it and posing as a member of the «third world» itself, wants to stop the revolution and to gain time so that it, too, can become a superpower. Such a thing is in the interests of the United States of America, because, by pursuing this line, China not only hinders the revolution and distorts the Marxist-Leninist ideology, but at the same time serves the maintenance of the status quo, i.e., protects the markets of American imperialism and the big national bourgeoisie of every state, until, by plunging into this anti-Marxist, anti-socialist course, China itself manages to become another superpower in order to balance the two existing superpowers.
The duty devolves upon us Albanian Marxist-Leninists to explain this line of China's and we shall make this explanation, basing ourselves, as always, on our great teachers, Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin, who have made these questions very clear. Not only at its 7th Congress, but since the time it was founded, our Party has always proceeded according to the teachings of our classics, has understood them correctly in theory, and has applied them correctly in practice, too.
It must be admitted that the reactionary world bourgeoisie has followed and studied the development of the policy and ideology of Mao Tsetung, the development of political-ideological struggles in China, more carefully not only in the periods prior to the revolution, but also during the revolution. Precisely because the reactionary world bourgeoisie saw that this policy and this ideology had its specific Chinese Asiatic character, was far removed from Marxism-Leninism, it has defended, supported and propagated it, moreover as Marxist-Leninist. In its own writings and publications, the bourgeoisie clearly sets out the orientation of the policy and ideology of Mao Tsetung and describes it not as Marxist, but as a revolutionary bourgeois ideology and, in fact, that is what it is. It was in the interests of imperialism, world capitalism, that China, a huge continent, you might say, should continue on this course, should follow the political and ideological orientation of Mao Tsetung, which one day would come into open opposition to scientific Marxism, because China would not follow the road of scientific Marxism.
Thirsty Crow
6th February 2012, 02:04
You're hell bent on necromancy, ain't that right Ismail? I'd bet that you have your little Hoxha rant every time you're about to sleep with someone too.
Susurrus
6th February 2012, 02:59
"As Hoxha wrote on his napkin in 1957,
When sleeping with people without a wish to conceive children, a true communist must use contraception in the tradition of Marxism-Leninism. Until the dictatorship of the proletariat crushes all the remains of bourgeois culture, it is traditional for the male to provide said contraception. As such, it is vital that contraception be one of the first areas of the economy to be collectivized."
Ismail
6th February 2012, 03:09
The large-scale collectivization of agriculture did begin in 1957... :D
PC LOAD LETTER
6th February 2012, 05:54
The large-scale collectivization of agriculture did begin in 1957... :D
I guess Hoxha wanted to plough everyone
MarxSchmarx
8th February 2012, 04:48
I think somebody here needs to create a mod for a spell in Skyrim:
"Conjure Envar Hoxha"
And he recites random verses from his 100+ volumes before he is bludgened or subject to a banish daedra spell.
That ought to keep Ismail busy for a few years
Susurrus
8th February 2012, 06:19
I think somebody here needs to create a mod for a spell in Skyrim:
"Conjure Envar Hoxha"
And he recites random verses from his 100+ volumes before he is bludgened or subject to a banish daedra spell.
That ought to keep Ismail busy for a few years
That or have him construct bunkers.
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