Does this Song implicitly promote socialist values?

[Black_Rose]

I used to watch the Japanese Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's (i.e. Card Games on Motorcycles) after I stumbled across a few episodes on YouTube (and then they were pulled down). This is pretty unusual since women in their mid twenties are not the target demographic of Japanese anime. I particularly like the protagonist Yusei Fudo who has a placid disposition (as he rarely acts in anger or expresses any neurotic tendencies since he is never agitated), technical competence, humility (since he never boasts about his superior abilities in dueling or technology, although the writers makes them clearly evident), and possess strong bonds (kizuna) with his friends as he cares about their welfare and interests. (In contrast I cannot stand watching the Zexal series with Yuma, who is pretty much an incompetent dumbass at everything.) The first season had a Marxist discourse to it, since the residents of Satellite had to sort and process garbage for the residents of the prosperous Neo Domino City , which can be interpreted as an allegory for the neoliberal, global capitalist economy where the impoverished perform vital services and manufacture goods for the consumption of the wealthier classes that they are physically and socially segregated from, although as the plot progresses the two cities become reunited.

This is called "Start" by Nakaguichi Masataka. (Yes, I chose it for my signature). It is the ending for the first 26 Episodes of YGO 5D's. Again the song doesn't explicitly promote socialist values, but one can certainly interpret the lyrics to be sympathetic to socialism. Moreover, it is difficult to construe the lyrics as an endorsement for any capitalist/bourgeois values (particularly economic individualism, contempt for the economically unfortunate, or reverence for the capitalists/upper class). I also appreciate the song's optimistic tone.

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Here is the English translation of the lyrics:



What are you grasping for? What good will it do you?
We're moving forward and we'll make sure to discover what


Never-ending sentiments, the passionate beats of our hearts
and the voice of truth are all what we heard
We got busted up and we learned of where we can get stronger
I'll search through the dreams in my hand and one day I'll lead them all to you

Shouting the signal for the START we'll do what our hearts want
and vault over our cramped and mediocre lives
We'll make a DASH and attain every bit of our brilliant futures
Embracing the bonds we so believe in we'll race toward tomorrow

Courtesy of Janime.net

I can interpolate a socialist interpretation fairly easily:

Most people who live under a capitalist society currently do live "cramped and mediocre lives" where they merely subsist on a meager salary while working humdrum jobs providing labor to enrich a property-owning rentier or to make their lives more convenient such as cooking for them. Most of these laborers have such shallow aspirations - "What are you grasping for? What good will it do you?" - such as watching television and being entertained by popular culture, and consuming or owning the latest fashion or technological gewgaws, less often for its actual utility than as an expression of social status and prestige, in the context of a capitalist economy, in a feeble attempt to differentiate themselves among their fellow members of the working class . "Embracing the bonds we so believe in" is inherently collectivistic and does not promote individualism; by embracing of common (economic) interests (and bonds) in the spirit of amity, sympathy, and friendship, the working class can strive for a more just, liberating, and fulfilling economic system.

[Red Noob]

I think the better question is, does this video promote Socialist values?

vD0vHZxAmso

Pay very close attention at 0:20


"...working together, they get the job done..."

And seriously, when have you ever seen Bob get paid for what he does? I think this is promoting a Socialist message to construction and infrastructure workers.

edit:
Confirmed. Yes, this is promoting a 'workers uniting' message. Pay attention at 0:007 and 0:24
You'll notice four frames. Each of which depict different work profession, from welding, to plumbing, and other works. This is seriously Socialist.


or there's the possibility I'm over analyzing it a bit

[Leftsolidarity]

I think the better question is, does this video promote Socialist values?

vD0vHZxAmso

Pay very close attention at 0:20


"...working together, they get the job done..."

And seriously, when have you ever seen Bob get paid for what he does? I think this is promoting a Socialist message to construction and infrastructure workers.

edit:
Confirmed. Yes, this is promoting a 'workers uniting' message. Pay attention at 0:007 and 0:24
You'll notice four frames. Each of which depict different work profession, from welding, to plumbing, and other works. This is seriously Socialist.


or there's the possibility I'm over analyzing it a bit

I've thought the same thing. TELEVISION WATCHING TODDLERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!:hammersickle:

[Black_Rose]

I think the better question is, does this video promote Socialist values?

vD0vHZxAmso

Pay very close attention at 0:20


"...working together, they get the job done..."

And seriously, when have you ever seen Bob get paid for what he does? I think this is promoting a Socialist message to construction and infrastructure workers.

edit:
Confirmed. Yes, this is promoting a 'workers uniting' message. Pay attention at 0:007 and 0:24
You'll notice four frames. Each of which depict different work profession, from welding, to plumbing, and other works. This is seriously Socialist.


or there's the possibility I'm over analyzing it a bit

I also facetiously noted that the Pokemon World was socialist due to the fact that few people seem to work and there is free medical care and shelters for the trainers in the Pokemon centers.

BTW, a general message of teamwork and cooperation is not synonymous with political or economic solidarity necessary for socialism; in fact, my mother often talks about how others merely use that rhetoric to appease managers at her workplace. Management has an incentive in promoting those "values" since downplays the individual economic interests of the workers (and discourages petty interpersonal conflicts among the workers that can detrimentally impact workplace productivity) while favoring the financial welfare of the company (which, ironically, often has frequent waves of layoffs), but an astute observer would note that the executives and shareholders are the primary beneficiaries of a profitable company.

The word "kizuna" (bonds), especially in the context of the song, has a more profound meaning and conveys a stronger sense of mutual obligation and concern beyond that necessary to perform simple workplace chores (in the case of capitalism, that performing tasks which would contribute to the efficient operation of a company, which serves primarily to increase or maintain its financial value), business transactions, or leisurely pursuits.

[bcbm]

god please move this to chit chat

[Obs]

You're what the left has to offer? Some fucking manchild analysing Yu-Gi-Oh theme lyrics? You fucking joke.

[DinodudeEpic]

It's just a children's card game!

It's not like that it is the third most important force in the world. (Replacing religion.) http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SeriousBusiness/AnimeAndManga


At one point during GX, Duel Monsters is placed next to business and politics in terms of importance and world-control. You heard me. A CHILDREN'S CARD GAME HAS REPLACED RELIGION IN TERMS OF GLOBAL IMPORTANCE.

Hilariously, my 'card games on motorcycles' jokes actually mock the series' absurd concept of people going on deadly motorcycle duels over a children's card game. (Not to mention an entire class system based of said card game.)

Plus, the show itself is just a poorly made children's anime. (When the abridged series has more fans then the actual show, the show in question has a huge problem.)

[MotherCossack]

You're what the left has to offer? Some fucking manchild analysing Yu-Gi-Oh theme lyrics? You fucking joke.

interesting....
first reaction:
ooh you horrible meanie...
they were only having a laugh...
finding socialism in the most unlikely of places....
and it made me smile [well, almost].

but then....
second reaction....
oh dear!
at this rate the sun will have consumed the planet before the left is anything like ready for the punch up to end all punch ups!
the human race has far too much to do before it can sit back and relax, tittering at itself!
and, as part of the small percentage who have sussed this out we need to get on with getting the rest [of us] on board and sorting it all out. starting with the colossal mess that the capitalist contigent have already made.


???????????
1 or 2.... which... 1st or 2nd!?...
er.......

[Agent Ducky]

I think the better question is, does this video promote Socialist values?
vD0vHZxAmso


I'd say it's obviously socialist. It's where Socialist Commissar Obama got his campaign slogan, "Yes we can!"

[MotherCossack]

alright..
i suppose that works, for me....
so... let us suppose that bob the builder, bless him, is indeed, said socialist,
and his iconic videos do indeed promote said socialist values......
errr......
great....
super!....
but.... that leaves us... er... where exactly, though?
oh! in a tiny bit more cozy a world than i previously thought?
well, thats nice!

i feel mean now.... am i mean... do i come over mean....
oh dear...

[Agent Ducky]

alright..
i suppose that works, for me....
so... let us suppose that bob the builder, bless him, is indeed, said socialist,
and his iconic videos do indeed promote said socialist values......
errr......
great....
super!....
but.... that leaves us... er... where exactly, though?
oh! in a tiny bit more cozy a world than i previously thought?
well, thats nice!

i feel mean now.... am i mean... do i come over mean....
oh dear...
I think the excessive elipsis (...)'s make you seem meaner. :P not really but dang, that's a lot of periods.

[Comrade Samuel]

It's just a children's card game!

Lol love the abridged series "screw the rules I have money!" is the greatest quote of all time.

As for the OP I'm sorry to say but your just looking too deeply into something attempting to find ties to socialism that are just not there. Dont get me wrong I have nothing against the show or it's fans but I just find it impossible to follow or understand and to take something as coldly rational as socialism and try to somehow draw simalarities just seems absurd. That's just my opinion I'm sure there is someone else who could probably agree with you here.

I'm aware the song is the topic here but really that whole bit about that seemed like nonsense with a few things that could be interpreted as a socialist only if you overthink it.

EDIT: oh and Obs I think that's a little extream, we don't need to insult fellow leftist no matter what our opinoins are on their favorite media. Even if this isn't a real meaningful debate and should be moved to chit-chat I don't believe that's an exscuse to go off on people.

[Yuppie Grinder]

You're what the left has to offer? Some fucking manchild analysing Yu-Gi-Oh theme lyrics? You fucking joke.

The OP mentioned she was a woman in her mid-twenties. I agree that this topic is pretty nerdy, but there's no need to be a dick, mate.

[Pretty Flaco]

You're what the left has to offer? Some fucking manchild analysing Yu-Gi-Oh theme lyrics? You fucking joke.

Damn man. Chill the fuck down, jesus christ. Who are the hell are you to act all high and mighty to her?

[Obs]

The OP mentioned she was a woman in her mid-twenties.
I know, but if I'd said 'womanchild,' CotR would've banned me for sexism

I agree that this topic is pretty nerdy, but there's no need to be a dick, mate.
It's more than nerdy, it's a fucking disgrace. Grown people obsessed with children's cartoons (or, interested enough to analyse the Japanese lyrics to its fucking theme song) is a thing that just needs to somehow stop existing.

Damn man. Chill the fuck down, jesus christ. Who are the hell are you to act all high and mighty to her?
Right the fuck back at ya, dickhead. I don't even know who you are, but you've got to stop this whole white knight shit you've got going if it means you're gonna talk to me again.

[Leftsolidarity]

I know, but if I'd said 'womanchild,' CotR would've banned me for sexism

It's more than nerdy, it's a fucking disgrace. Grown people obsessed with children's cartoons (or, interested enough to analyse the Japanese lyrics to its fucking theme song) is a thing that just needs to somehow stop existing.

Right the fuck back at ya, dickhead. I don't even know who you are, but you've got to stop this whole white knight shit you've got going if it means you're gonna talk to me again.

Wow, you're a prick.

[Zealot]

I think you're over-analyzing things, the lyrics sound more like bourgeois liberalism if anything was to be interpreted. My guess would be that this song is supposed to be interpreted within the framework or context of the cartoon. I like your hermeneutics though.

[ColonelCossack]

I think the excessive elipsis (...)'s make you seem meaner. :P not really but dang, that's a lot of periods.

I would even say she's INCOHERENT!

[Ocean Seal]

First things first. I thought that people just played the card game now, because the show sucked once they got rid of Yugi and they couldn't one up the plot anymore.



It's more than nerdy, it's a fucking disgrace. Grown people obsessed with children's cartoons (or, interested enough to analyse the Japanese lyrics to its fucking theme song) is a thing that just needs to somehow stop existing.

Next order of business. Don't talk shit about children's cartoons. Maybe some people can't see the Magic of My Little Pony, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us are blind. Ponies are forever son, don't you forget that.

[Robespierre Richard]

Back in middle school a friend of mine won like $800 in a Yu-gi-oh championship, but his mom made him give it up for a door he broke in their apartment. So I think Yu-gi-oh is responsible for exorbitant landlord fees.

[NewLeft]

21st century internationale!

[Frank Zapatista]

The only thing I got out of this thread is that Obs is an asshole that likes to look down at other people for the things they like/watch. I have a feeling you guys would have a less criticizing tone if we were talking about some show on HBO. That and now I really want to watch Yu-Gi-Oh.

[Tychus]

Right the fuck back at ya, dickhead. I don't even know who you are, but you've got to stop this whole white knight shit you've got going if it means you're gonna talk to me again.

And you are who? Just one more aspie on a message board. I dont know about the others but I particularly wouldnt give a shit to talk to you, so quit being a deluded fanboy who obviously was mocked and picked on too much for being an anime-addicted manchild himself. ;)

[Ostrinski]

What, pray tell, are "socialist values?"

[Black_Rose]

First things first. I thought that people just played the card game now, because the show sucked once they got rid of Yugi and they couldn't one up the plot anymore.


Next order of business. Don't talk shit about children's cartoons. Maybe some people can't see the Magic of My Little Pony, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us are blind. Ponies are forever son, don't you forget that.

I didn't follow the English original series, but I from what I saw of it, it actually sucked.

I actually went to a swap meet stall (Summer 2010) that had a booth that sold trading cards, and most of the people there merely played the YGO! TCG but didn't watch the English or Japanese television show. The TCG and the show cater to different audiences.


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I wrote this more than a year ago:


Regarding, YGO I find the newest spin-off simply dumb where they play the card game on motorbikes. I particular hate one character who says platitudes based on it such as "I am the master of faster!" *shudders* I saw it a while ago while flipping channels on a Saturday morning. I found it surprising how the series could be so popular when it is just a conspicuous ploy, a twenty minute advertisement along with ten minutes of "real" advertising, to sell merchandise such as the trading card game
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I only saw a few episodes of the original 4Kids (the one with Yugi who can mature under duress with the help of the golden pyramid around his neck), and it was really bad. I only paid attention for a few episodes because it was simply hilarious. I do not have much time [to watch the original Japanese episodes] to satisfy my curiosity about the series, unfortunately. I read the brief summary about the 5ds plot here (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh%21_5D%27s) after you said "it was more dark and mature" because I figured it would be quicker to read than to watch the whole series, but I was not able to understand what I was reading. It might take some time for one to appreciate it.
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Well, I found a part of a [Japanese subtitled] episode (the second episode of the series) [on YouTube] in the beginning that shows the classes. First Yusei gets beaten in a duel in a flashback (not with motorbikes) by Jack (I think; he wears a white coat and is tall), then the opening plays, and then Jack (the subs referred to him as the "King") talks about how he liked in the Satellite and found it to be a degrading, humiliating experience he detests. Next scene, Yusei and his friends sort trash.

I found it interesting since it might serve to be didactic tool to inform children about the class struggle.
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[I then watched about seven more episodes, and I surprising enjoyed them.]
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BTW, the Japanese show actually appeals to teenagers and young adult males; it is not a "children's show" as the 4Kids version is.

Look at the demographics for the views of the last theme song:

Audiences

This video is most popular with: Gender Age Male 13-17 Male 18-24 Female 13-17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmujlj4NX48&feature=related

It seems identical to the demographics of RevLeft which are mostly young people.

And most the viewers are concentrated in Japan and the United States.
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I ask one not don't judge the show (or the people who find it amusing or mildly enlightening or inspirational) if you haven't seen a subtitled episode or based it on your perception of the atrociously bowdlerized 4Kids dub.

I like the various abstract themes of the Japanese 5D's (kibou, kizuna, zetsubou; hope, bonds, and despair), the musical score, and most of the characters (for me, particularly Yusei, Jack, Aki, and Aporia). But the actual plot was below-average (as it had some filler episodes) and the means of conflict resolution (the duels) had predictable outcomes and often relied on the Deus Ex Machina (as the writers can simply make the protagonists/antagonists draw the "correct" cards, in order to advance the plot), but the way the duels were choreographed with the music and voice acting was a redeeming aspect.)

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All of the Japanese theme songs were outsourced and performed by other artists not affiliated with TV Tokyo, the company that produced the YGO animes; it would be like a television show using a Linkin Park song for their opening, as opposed to having it composed by in-house musicians. The song is not specifically designed to promote nor does it reference the card game or the television show itself.

[MotherCossack]

i dont know whether i am scared or amused.

1. everyone keep your hair on, or you'll go bald
2.cartoons are ok; kids like them, quite rightly so, and grown ups can read all manner of inappropriate messages in them, also ok.
after all they are only a bit of entertainment, which is a valid leisure activity in any ones book. i would hope at any rate.
3. scusey.
i will most ardently endeavour to profoundly reduce the unnecessarily excessive use of dots after saying stuff. it is a cheap trick and reduces the overall impact of my quite clearly profound rumblings.
4. obs is so cute. but a bit scarey-cross.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

The translated lyrics as provided in the OP seem far too vague to be promoting a particular socioeconomic ideology. It looks to me be just sort of generically uplifting and optimistic, which is great if that kinda thing is your bag.

I do think it's interesting that even in capitalist society a lot of children's programs place a heavy emphasis on quasi-socialist concepts such as sharing and working together to overcome problems.

But then again, can you imagine what children's entertainment would be like if it was written by straight-up Randians? It's a prospect I shudder to contemplate.

[ellipsis]

You're what the left has to offer? Some fucking manchild analysing Yu-Gi-Oh theme lyrics? You fucking joke.


I know, but if I'd said 'womanchild,' CotR would've banned me for sexism

It's more than nerdy, it's a fucking disgrace. Grown people obsessed with children's cartoons (or, interested enough to analyse the Japanese lyrics to its fucking theme song) is a thing that just needs to somehow stop existing.

Right the fuck back at ya, dickhead. I don't even know who you are, but you've got to stop this whole white knight shit you've got going if it means you're gonna talk to me again.

Verbal warning for trolling. I don't like the tone of your posts I've been
reading. I would hope you would engage with the forum a more civil manner.

[Le Libérer]

I know, but if I'd said 'womanchild,' CotR would've banned me for sexism

It's more than nerdy, it's a fucking disgrace. Grown people obsessed with children's cartoons (or, interested enough to analyse the Japanese lyrics to its fucking theme song) is a thing that just needs to somehow stop existing.

Right the fuck back at ya, dickhead. I don't even know who you are, but you've got to stop this whole white knight shit you've got going if it means you're gonna talk to me again.

I dont remember banning anyone for the use of the word Womanchild. I would however give you an infraction for flaming. But seeiing theredson has warned you, its fair enough.

[Black_Rose]

The translated lyrics as provided in the OP seem far too vague to be promoting a particular socioeconomic ideology. It looks to me be just sort of generically uplifting and optimistic, which is great if that kinda thing is your bag.

I do think it's interesting that even in capitalist society a lot of children's programs place a heavy emphasis on quasi-socialist concepts such as sharing and working together to overcome problems.

But then again, can you imagine what children's entertainment would be like if it was written by straight-up Randians? It's a prospect I shudder to contemplate.

Again, it (the Japanese anime) is not children's entertainment since it primarily appeals to teenagers and young adults.

I never suggested the song explicitly or subliminally promoted a specific political agenda or instigate any course of action due to the nebulous nature of the lyrics. I merely suggested that the lyrics may disproportionately appeal to and cultivate a socialist ethos and pathos (not logos) and that it is easier for one to interpret the lyrics in a fashion that is sypathetic with socialism as opposed to liberalism, reactionary conservatism, or libertarianism. I think the way to disprove that is to provide a plausible, alternative interpretation of the lyrics showing its compatibility with another political tendency. The lyrics seem to appeal more to a leftist, one who is at least a social democrat, but maybe I conflate its message of optimism and hope with the fulfillment of a socialist political agenda.

Actually, the 5D's series portrayed the stratified society negatively. It was clear that the Satellite/Neo Domino City system was oppressive. However, Yusei certainly wasn't a Spartacus trying to overthrow the rigid class system and liberate his fellow workers; the purpose of his expedition to Neo Domino City was to retrieve the Stardust Dragon card that Jack Atlas stole from him two years earlier. The reason why Yusei deemed that card important because it physically represented the bonds, hopes, and dreams that he shared with his friends in Satellite.
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What, pray tell, are "socialist values?"

I regard these as socialist values: sympathy, compassion, and mercy towards the working classes (or at least the domestic working class); political erudition; material frugality and the absence of the desire to consume luxury goods; and a willingness to endure personal adversity and tribulation for the purpose of advancing a revolution and to maintain socialism.

[DinodudeEpic]

What, pray tell, are "socialist values?"

.Playing card games while on motorcycles
.Creating class system with said card game
.Making inappropriate fan fics, involving gay relationships between the characters
.Worshiping LittleKuriboh
.Making cheap Americanized localizations with bad voice acting
.4Kids getting tons of money
.Singing about destroying the world

Yes, Marx would be proud. And, Lenin is probably smiling in his grave. At the same time, the souls of Proudhon, George Orwell, Rosa Luxembourg, and Bakunin are having a Duel Monsters party complete with Egyptian God Cards.

[Black_Rose]

.Playing card games while on motorcycles
.Creating class system with said card game
.Making inappropriate fan fics, involving gay relationships between the characters
.Worshiping LittleKuriboh
...
.4Kids getting tons of money
.Singing about destroying the world

Yes, Marx would be proud. And, Lenin is probably smiling in his grave. At the same time, the souls of Proudhon, George Orwell, Rosa Luxembourg, and Bakunin are having a Duel Monsters party complete with Egyptian God Cards.
If I remember correctly, 4Kids is bankrupt.

I suppose Castro, Mao, Honecker, Stalin, and Hoxha could be the Signers and instead of the "Akaki Ryu" (Crimson Dragon), the Red Star would be used.


.Making cheap Americanized localizations with bad voice acting

I love the Japanese seiyu, but the 5D's dubbed voice and score isn't as good as the original.

[Comrade Samuel]

.Playing card games while on motorcycles
.Creating class system with said card game
.Making inappropriate fan fics, involving gay relationships between the characters
.Worshiping LittleKuriboh
.Making cheap Americanized localizations with bad voice acting
.4Kids getting tons of money
.Singing about destroying the world

Yes, Marx would be proud. And, Lenin is probably smiling in his grave. At the same time, the souls of Proudhon, George Orwell, Rosa Luxembourg, and Bakunin are having a Duel Monsters party complete with Egyptian God Cards.
Yes! When the revolution comes comrade there will be no armed conflict, no prolateriate uprising we will challenge the bourguasie to a childrens card game muwhahahahaha!

The battle will take place in the shadow relm (aka on the Berlin walls runins)
And we won't be fighting for the souls of our best friends, no a far more important prize: the means of production!

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Again, it (the Japanese anime) is not children's entertainment since it primarily appeals to teenagers and young adults.

Never said it was, my observation was general not specific.


I never suggested the song explicitly or subliminally promoted a specific political agenda or instigate any course of action due to the nebulous nature of the lyrics. I merely suggested that the lyrics may disproportionately appeal to and cultivate a socialist ethos and pathos (not logos) and that it is easier for one to interpret the lyrics in a fashion that is sypathetic with socialism as opposed to liberalism, reactionary conservatism, or libertarianism.

How do the lyrics rule out say, a liberal interpretation?


I think the way to disprove that is to provide a plausible, alternative interpretation of the lyrics showing its compatibility with another political tendency. The lyrics seem to appeal more to a leftist, one who is at least a social democrat, but maybe I conflate its message of optimism and hope with the fulfillment of a socialist political agenda.

I think since there is no obvious intended socialist message, the burden of evidence is on you in this case.


Actually, the 5D's series portrayed the stratified society negatively. It was clear that the Satellite/Neo Domino City system was oppressive. However, Yusei certainly wasn't a Spartacus trying to overthrow the rigid class system and liberate his fellow workers; the purpose of his expedition to Neo Domino City was to retrieve the Stardust Dragon card that Jack Atlas stole from him two years earlier. The reason why Yusei deemed that card important because it physically represented the bonds, hopes, and dreams that he shared with his friends in Satellite.

I think one has to look at the series' attitude to radical social change (I know not of it myself) in order to determine whether the values presented in it are concomitant with revolutionary socialism.

Of course it's sensible to maintain some sense of metafictional awareness. Consider the Warhammer 40,000 (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/Warhammer40000?from=Main.Warhammer40000) universe, where to all appearances radical social change is an impossibility and the who galaxy is doomed one way or another anyway. Bad fiction for socialists, right? Notwithstanding the debateability of making a tabletop war game without conflict, the sheer over-the-top nature of the narrative element serves to deconstruct various dystopian scenarios. Of particular interest to revolutionary socialists are illustrations of the very nadir of a poisonous mix of entrenched institutions, authority and bureaucracy.


I regard these as socialist values: sympathy, compassion, and mercy towards the working classes (or at least the domestic working class); political erudition; material frugality and the absence of the desire to consume luxury goods; and a willingness to endure personal adversity and tribulation for the purpose of advancing a revolution and to maintain socialism.

[emphasis added]

Why? It's not a love of luxury the precedes the exploitation of others, but a willingness to acquire it at the expense of others. You're not assuming that everyone who likes luxuries are willing to screw over others to get them, are you?

[Proukunin]

if you go to tournaments most of the 'children' who play this game are around 20-25..it's a children's tv show but the card game is for all ages..

Most of those 'children' who are in the tournaments aren't really 'nerdy'..just regular dudes who play yu-gi-oh, some stoners, some nerds, some just whatever..fuck I play and I play pokemon..it's fun who gives a fuck i'll play till im old and can't play.

[Thug Lessons]

Yes it does OP. I'd love to see all the jocks and assholes in my school listen to this song. Might teach them something about being a cool, powerful socialist instead of a jerkwad troll.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

.Making inappropriate fan fics, involving gay relationships between the characters


Don't be so down on that, that's the only good thing to come out of this shit.

[Rafiq]

.Playing card games while on motorcycles
.Creating class system with said card game
.Making inappropriate fan fics, involving gay relationships between the characters
.Worshiping LittleKuriboh
.Making cheap Americanized localizations with bad voice acting
.4Kids getting tons of money
.Singing about destroying the world

Yes, Marx would be proud. And, Lenin is probably smiling in his grave. At the same time, the souls of Proudhon, George Orwell, Rosa Luxembourg, and Bakunin are having a Duel Monsters party complete with Egyptian God Cards.

You've no Idea how much I distaste you

[Doflamingo]

I think the better question is, does this video promote Socialist values?

vD0vHZxAmso

Pay very close attention at 0:20


"...working together, they get the job done..."

And seriously, when have you ever seen Bob get paid for what he does? I think this is promoting a Socialist message to construction and infrastructure workers.

edit:
Confirmed. Yes, this is promoting a 'workers uniting' message. Pay attention at 0:007 and 0:24
You'll notice four frames. Each of which depict different work profession, from welding, to plumbing, and other works. This is seriously Socialist.


or there's the possibility I'm over analyzing it a bit

You sir, are my hero.

[DinodudeEpic]

You've no Idea how much I distaste you

I was actually making fun of the stupidity that is BlackRose's idea that there are socialist undertones to the theme song of a children anime show that is devoid of any intelligence. I did this through a combination of sarcasm, farcical antics, and endless references, providing for a more humorous experience that makes fun of the sheer mocking of socialist ideas and actual socialists by the very suggestion that Yu Gi Oh 5DS's theme song actually has socialist ideas within it.

Of course, you took the post literally due to your personal and unwarranted hatred for me. Also, you've got a capital I on 'Idea', even though it is in the middle of the sentence. Furthermore, you forgot to add the word 'got' between 'you've' and 'no'.

In total, your post is pathetic, no offense, and you should reconsider learning how to read a satire or parody. :)

[Rafiq]

I was actually making fun of the stupidity that is BlackRose's idea that there are socialist undertones to the theme song of a children anime show that is devoid of any intelligence. I did this through a combination of sarcasm, farcical antics, and endless references, providing for a more humorous experience that makes fun of the sheer mocking of socialist ideas and actual socialists by the very suggestion that Yu Gi Oh 5DS's theme song actually has socialist ideas within it.

Of course, you took the post literally due to your personal and unwarranted hatred for me. Also, you've got a capital I on 'Idea', even though it is in the middle of the sentence. Furthermore, you forgot to add the word 'got' between 'you've' and 'no'.

In total, your post is pathetic, no offense, and you should reconsider learning how to read a satire or parody. :)

I knew it was a parody :rolleyes:

It just wasn't funny in any way

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[DinodudeEpic]

I knew it was a parody :rolleyes:

It just wasn't funny in any way

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Oh, I just haven't really gotten used to the use of mobile phones/devices in communications.

Well, please respond in a clearer matter so I don't end up misreading your posts in the wrong way next time. (And I should probably learn about context a bit more.)

I'm sorry for my unfounded written criticism.

After all, everyone has a different sense of humor.

Edit: I noticed that you didn't post your original post using a phone. While you considering my post to be devoid of humor is fine, you should be more clear about it. Clarity makes way for understanding.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

alabama > japan tbh

rJGHVYPG_HY

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

opening lines
the fruits of their labor are worth more than their pay

song about surplus value init

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I regard these as socialist values: sympathy, compassion, and mercy towards the working classes (or at least the domestic working class); political erudition; material frugality and the absence of the desire to consume luxury goods; and a willingness to endure personal adversity and tribulation for the purpose of advancing a revolution and to maintain socialism.

this is like literally the bourgiest thing ive ever read

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

oh please have mercy on us lawd!

[arilando]

I know, but if I'd said 'womanchild,' CotR would've banned me for sexism

It's more than nerdy, it's a fucking disgrace. Grown people obsessed with children's cartoons (or, interested enough to analyse the Japanese lyrics to its fucking theme song) is a thing that just needs to somehow stop existing.
There is nothing wrong with liking a show that was intended for children, i am myself quite a big fan of Avatar: The Last Airbender, so your post is pretty insulting.

[arilando]

I was actually making fun of the stupidity that is BlackRose's idea that there are socialist undertones to the theme song of a children anime show that is devoid of any intelligence. I did this through a combination of sarcasm, farcical antics, and endless references, providing for a more humorous experience that makes fun of the sheer mocking of socialist ideas and actual socialists by the very suggestion that Yu Gi Oh 5DS's theme song actually has socialist ideas within it.

Of course, you took the post literally due to your personal and unwarranted hatred for me. Also, you've got a capital I on 'Idea', even though it is in the middle of the sentence. Furthermore, you forgot to add the word 'got' between 'you've' and 'no'.

In total, your post is pathetic, no offense, and you should reconsider learning how to read a satire or parody. :)
Pwnagedness!

[La Comédie Noire]

I think you are seeing hammers and sickles in the wall paper.